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Hey all. Bought my first pair of sr-80's and am very impressed with their stock capabilities. I am, however, unaccustomed to to such a clear high frequency range and of course the slightly perceived lack of low end. My question. Do the mods make enough of a difference in these areas to justify opening up a new set of phones. I'm not nervous of doing the job, but will the results justify voiding the warranty? Any help would be appreciated.
Try bowl pads. They will improve the sound of your your 80s

This. Replacing the comfies with the bowls should be the first 'mod' anyone with a low-end Grado tries: increases clarity and soundstage, and tightens the bass. Doing this made me realise just how good my MS1s really are!
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I find it very annoying, as well. And in addition to Obob's excellent response, I'll just point out that my approach is typically to just make a few comments about my own experiences with them, which many times is enough encouragement for another to at least give them an audition. All the headphone war nonsense really takes away from the site, IMO, and the whole idea of the "chart warriors" who throw their data and measurements around is often times more about "winning" than it is the pursuit of aural pleasure. Those of us who are more interested in finding transducers that allow us to enjoy our music at the highest level than  finding a way to win a debate won't need much inspiration to at least give them a listen. That obviously doesn't mean they'll match up to their preferences, which is perfectly fine, but I think after decades of Grado success it's pretty clear that  these products hit the mark for a pretty large number of music lovers around the globe. 

 

I don't get this ''headphone war'' either, this is not a competition, the way i see it, we all have something in common, wich is, we all enjoy listening to our music through headphones, if peoples started saying  my headphones sound DIFFERENT than yours, instead of saying, my headphones sound BETTER than yours, we wouldn't have this pissing contest.

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Do Grado's make anyone else's jaw hurt? I know a lot complain about the comfort of these headphones, but it's usually about the ears and not the jaw. Mine become more comfortable the more I wear them, and I don't feel any pain with the headphones on, but when I take them off and try to eat my jaw hurts as if I have been chewing excessive amounts of gum. I have an enormous head, I'm guessing that is probably a factor. Will c-pads eliminate this?

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This. Replacing the comfies with the bowls should be the first 'mod' anyone with a low-end Grado tries: increases clarity and soundstage, and tightens the bass. Doing this made me realise just how good my MS1s really are!

Double this. Seriously, the L-Cush pads are a significant improvement in sound quality to the SR60i, SR80i, and SR125i. Sinnottj is right: better clarity, more coherent soundstage, and tighter, more focused bass.

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Do Grado's make anyone else's jaw hurt? I know a lot complain about the comfort of these headphones, but it's usually about the ears and not the jaw. Mine become more comfortable the more I wear them, and I don't feel any pain with the headphones on, but when I take them off and try to eat my jaw hurts as if I have been chewing excessive amounts of gum. I have an enormous head, I'm guessing that is probably a factor. Will c-pads eliminate this?

Hm I've never had a problem with this personally. I'm surprised they'd hurt your jaw, seeing as they are supra-aural design. The only headphones I actually experienced jaw-discomfort with was the Beyerdynamic DT770/880/990 series.

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I don't get this ''headphone war'' either, this is not a competition, the way i see it, we all have something in common, wich is, we all enjoy listening to our music through headphones, if peoples started saying  my headphones sound DIFFERENT than yours, instead of saying, my headphones sound BETTER than yours, we wouldn't have this pissing contest.

 

 

I agree. It really does take away from what is otherwise an awesome forum...I often think about how much I've learned over the past year and it's staggering to me. Not only that, but the amount of enjoyment that this side of the hobby has brought me (I literally knew NOTHING about headphones prior to November of 2011) since I first started coming here is off the charts. So the positives far outweigh the negatives for me in terms of the discourse, but yeah, I think there are a handful of people on this site who do others a severe disservice by the way they just dismiss gear that isn't to their liking. It's great to say why we don't like something, but not so great to assume that others won't like it for the same reasons. 

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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post


This. Replacing the comfies with the bowls should be the first 'mod' anyone with a low-end Grado tries: increases clarity and soundstage, and tightens the bass. Doing this made me realise just how good my MS1s really are!

 

Doing this makes the MS1's sound dangerously close to the MS2i's. The differences in pads can a yield a greater difference in sound than switching between models, at least in the Prestige line.

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Doing this makes the MS1's sound dangerously close to the MS2i's. The differences in pads can a yield a greater difference in sound than switching between models, at least in the Prestige line.

Hi, curious to hear IYO what are the difference's between the two, with (L) pad's on the MS1's? Would you still have purchased the MS2i over the MS1i?

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Hi, curious to hear IYO what are the difference's between the two, with (L) pad's on the MS1's? Would you still have purchased the MS2i over the MS1i?

I have some 325is (modded with wood cups) rather than MS2is myself and, while I'd say they are clearly better than my MS1is, the differences are relatively subtle.

The 325is are obviously a bit more aggressive sounding than the more neutral Alessandros, but other than this the main differences are more authoritative bass and a wider (or at least less congested!) soundstage.

Never heard the MS2i but I'd guess they'd offer similar improvements, while remaining more neutral than the Grados ...
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I agree. It really does take away from what is otherwise an awesome forum...I often think about how much I've learned over the past year and it's staggering to me. Not only that, but the amount of enjoyment that this side of the hobby has brought me (I literally knew NOTHING about headphones prior to November of 2011) since I first started coming here is off the charts. So the positives far outweigh the negatives for me in terms of the discourse, but yeah, I think there are a handful of people on this site who do others a severe disservice by the way they just dismiss gear that isn't to their liking. It's great to say why we don't like something, but not so great to assume that others won't like it for the same reasons. 

 

 

I too have learned a lot here on Head-Fi, i consider myself a Grado fan but not a fanboy, the difference being that i have no problem giving credit to other manufacturers when it's due, a fanboy thinks that is brand of choice is the best period, end of story, and i believe when someone becomes a fanboy he starts losing is objectivity, therefore also losing his credibility. How much credibility would i have if i started trashing LCD2/3s, T1s, or HE500s, just to name a few, i had the chance to hear them all at Montréal's Festival Son et Image, and i think that they are all good sounding headphones, heck! i might even sell my GS1000s and get a pair of LCD2s or HE500s, i just hope that they're going to be at the 2013 event so that give them a more serious listen. 

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Bowl pads it is. Any suggestions where I can easily pick up a pair for fit? The mods I was contemplating would be felt damping and then gradually opening up holes on the driver backing as I read that the sr 60/80's are the only grasps that do not have this done already
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Spellcheck! Lol
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Do Grado's make anyone else's jaw hurt? I know a lot complain about the comfort of these headphones, but it's usually about the ears and not the jaw. Mine become more comfortable the more I wear them, and I don't feel any pain with the headphones on, but when I take them off and try to eat my jaw hurts as if I have been chewing excessive amounts of gum. I have an enormous head, I'm guessing that is probably a factor. Will c-pads eliminate this?

Try wearing them a bit further back, so they aren't resting on the TMJ so forwards.

Also try bending the headband (gently) to make them less clampy, and remember that extending the rods will also make them fit more loosely.
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Hm I've never had a problem with this personally. I'm surprised they'd hurt your jaw, seeing as they are supra-aural design. The only headphones I actually experienced jaw-discomfort with was the Beyerdynamic DT770/880/990 series.

And here's where the C-Pad would be a little bit questionable - given that it uses the Beyer pads.

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Originally Posted by jeffrocc View Post

Bowl pads it is. Any suggestions where I can easily pick up a pair for fit? The mods I was contemplating would be felt damping and then gradually opening up holes on the driver backing as I read that the sr 60/80's are the only grasps that do not have this done already

You can get the bowls from TTVJ iirc. They're like ~$15.
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The bowl pads real name is "Grado L-Cush Pad". The MSRP is $20, so don't expect to get them for much less. You can buy at Amazon or any authorized Grado online retailer. Best value is to find one with free shipping and no sales tax. Enjoy they are worth it! I suggest you listen for a while before doing any poking of holes or dampening of drivers. Many find that these change but not necessarily improve the sound. I found best results from changing pads and removing buttons to improve airflow.
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You all are awesome!!! Thanks so much for the advice it's really appreciated. On that topic, anyone have a recommendation for a good strap cushion to replace the stock GRADO plastic one?
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