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post #5521 of 19260
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If I were you, Focker, I'd look for a deck just like Stacker's. The Technics are excellent direct drive decks, that were made for DJs. The result is that they are damn near indestructible. They also sold like crazy, so they pop up on craigslist for ~$200-$400 often. If you can find one of the high end Regas, they're great, easily on par or better than a good Thorens or Lynn, they're all just different. The Technics was not designed to be an audiophile deck, but it has been widely adopted by audiophiles. I recently found the 1600 on craigslist for $75. If I had the time to run out there, and $75 to burn, it's a steal. The lower end of the 2M line is getting great feedback, too. The Red and Blue (I forget which, but one of those is ~$100) are supposed to be great. Another cart I hear great things about is the AT 440, I think, it's a very inexpensive high-output moving coil. I switched to HOMC a year or two ago, and love it. Also, the Denon 110 is awesome for the money, about $140. To be honest, Shure makes great stuff for the price. The lowest model Shure, the M92E, is pretty nice. It used to be easily found for ~$25. I put it on a Lenco (rebadged as a Bogen-Presto), which was popular with radio stations, and it sounded pretty great. Not quite on par with some of the others here, or even the venerable V15, but it's certainly no slouch, and isn't that far from their top of the line, M97

EDIT: In that ~$100 price range, the Sumiko Pearl sounds AMAZING!

 

Going vintage, if done right, can be a tremendous value. I've honestly not been so fond of the Pro-Ject decks I've seen/worked on, I'd take the Technics, or an older Lynn or Thorens any day. Not to say that they don't make good products, or aren't worth the money, I was just less impressed. I have seen some vintage decks that were pretty inexpensive which I found the be about on par with the newer Pro-Jects. I rebuilt a mid-80s Yamaha that was really nice. Also, the earlier Pioneer tables were great. There are tons of great decks out there, and if you find a great vintage one, you could get equivalent performance for a bit less.

Thanks! I'll add those to my list and keep tabs on craigs list...

post #5522 of 19260
On the SR-325, the 325is were never available in gold; the color variations also indicate model changes (SR-325i were done in gold as a 50th anniversary thing, 325is exist in both matte and chrome). However a lot of retailers seem to have not changed their stock images with Grado's latest revisions - it's only been what? 3 years? tongue.gif
post #5523 of 19260
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

On the SR-325, the 325is were never available in gold; the color variations also indicate model changes (SR-325i were done in gold as a 50th anniversary thing, 325is exist in both matte and chrome). However a lot of retailers seem to have not changed their stock images with Grado's latest revisions - it's only been what? 3 years? tongue.gif


Grado's website still shows the older chromed version, too.

post #5524 of 19260
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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post


Grado's website still shows the older chromed version, too.

Isn't chrome the current version? Matte only existed for a little while iirc.
post #5525 of 19260
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

On the SR-325, the 325is were never available in gold; the color variations also indicate model changes (SR-325i were done in gold as a 50th anniversary thing, 325is exist in both matte and chrome). However a lot of retailers seem to have not changed their stock images with Grado's latest revisions - it's only been what? 3 years? tongue.gif

I wish I knew that before I wasted my time and ordered them off Amazon through the seller 4ourears... I thought I was getting the gold ones (as displayed in the stock photo) but I was sent the silver ones, which I thought looked cheap as hell. I probably would have kept the chrome ones if I were sent those..  Just a tip to anyone reading this looking to get 325is.. MAKE SURE YOU CALL the seller before purchasing to make sure you get the color you want. 

post #5526 of 19260
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I wish I knew that before I wasted my time and ordered them off Amazon through the seller 4ourears... I thought I was getting the gold ones (as displayed in the stock photo) but I was sent the silver ones, which I thought looked cheap as hell. I probably would have kept the chrome ones if I were sent those..  Just a tip to anyone reading this looking to get 325is.. MAKE SURE YOU CALL the seller before purchasing to make sure you get the color you want. 

The "gold ones" are not made anymore, and have not been for years. They are not available in multiple colors; they're different models entirely. From my understanding, 4ourears is an authorized dealer as well - so you were getting a legitimate product. If you want the "goldies" (which are VERY bright headphones), you'll have to shop used. From user reviews, the 325is are somewhat toned down over the "goldies" though.

Regarding the RS-1 for mobile use - the wood will not survive substantial abuse (the pads may come apart, but they're inexpensive to replace). The metal gimbals and headband will probably stay together, but if you bang on the wood too hard it will likely crack or pit. So, I'd suggest looking for a hardcase to truck them around in - it will probably save them (and your wallet) a lot of grief (unless you're wearing them while working out or something, I would suspect the highest potential for damage isn't going to be while you're wearing them, but while you're transporting them (e.g. if you throw them in your briefcase)). Unfortunately Grado (to my knowledge) doesn't make such a case, and the only hard-cases I'm aware of (from Ultrasone, Bose, or Koss) all have custom fitting that will get into the way of the cans (in theory you could modify the innards to accommodate them though). Alternately, Pelican Cases are a popular choice, but they're a bit bulky...
post #5527 of 19260
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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post


Grado's website still shows the older chromed version, too.

Isn't chrome the current version? Matte only existed for a little while iirc.


No. Mine aren't chrome. They had problems with the chrome being inconsistent and scratching easily. Now, it's a silver paint.

post #5528 of 19260
Guys, I am ready to buy an amp and DAC for my PS500. What do you guys recommend ? Budget is only $200. I am looking at FIIO E17 , but I heard that the E19 might be out by Dec 2012?

I prefer hooking it up to my GEN 5.5 Ipod or an Ipad 2 and wirelessly stream the music using Itunes Home sharing features. (I will be listening to this setup 90% of the time)


With the other 10% , I will be listening from the iMac desktop that needs a better DAC.


I am also intrigue with the tube amp rolling....biggrin.gif. Is there a way to hook a a tube amp for ipod or Ipad2 ? I wonder if the PS500s with tube amp will sound more less intimate or less brighter?

I need someting to brightens up the PS5000s.

Will a FIIO LOD be able to bypass ipod DAC ? Though the DAC on my Ipod Gen5 is Wolfson WM87588G , I wonder if FIIO wolfson DAC is better than what I already have. So I guess I just need an amp?

I am still confuse which one to get...smily_headphones1.gif
post #5529 of 19260
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Originally Posted by Awgd8 View Post

Guys, I am ready to buy an amp and DAC for my PS500. What do you guys recommend ? Budget is only $200. I am looking at FIIO E17 , but I heard that the E19 might be out by Dec 2012?
I prefer hooking it up to my GEN 5.5 Ipod or an Ipad 2 and wirelessly stream the music using Itunes Home sharing features. (I will be listening to this setup 90% of the time)
With the other 10% , I will be listening from the iMac desktop that needs a better DAC.
I am also intrigue with the tube amp rolling....biggrin.gif. Is there a way to hook a a tube amp for ipod or Ipad2 ? I wonder if the PS500s with tube amp will sound more less intimate or less brighter?
I need someting to brightens up the PS5000s.
Will a FIIO LOD be able to bypass ipod DAC ? Though the DAC on my Ipod Gen5 is Wolfson WM87588G , I wonder if FIIO wolfson DAC is better than what I already have. So I guess I just need an amp?
I am still confuse which one to get...smily_headphones1.gif

If you want to amplify from both an ipod/ipad and your Mac, you want to use a LOD cable for your ipod/pad and a USB DAC from your MAC. As such get an DAC/amp with both a line in for your ipod/pad and a usb input for your PC.

 

 

The ipod LOD will bypass the amp in your ipod/pad, but use the ipad/pod's DAC. If you want to bypass the ipod/ipad DAC you need a more sophisticated dock to pull just the digital info from your ipod/pad.

 

IMO the budget entry level products sound similar and you should purchase on price and features.

After you select an AMP/DAC then pick you LOD cable so you know if you need 3.5mm mini or RCA jacks

post #5530 of 19260
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Isn't chrome the current version? Matte only existed for a little while iirc.

The early 325, black and silver, were anodized aluminum.

The 325i was gold anodized aluminum.

The first 325is was brushed (or matte) silver and also anodized. 

Then around 2011 Grado changed from anodizing and hence the recent different and inconsistent finishes.

325is in chrome are rare. This finish did not work in terms of consistency or durability and they stopped chrome 325is pretty quickly (3 months).

Variations of this expensive chrome finish is still used on the PS1000 which is why they have inconsistent finish.

The current 325is  (and PS500) are powder-coated aluminum. Powder coating is consistent, inexpensive and durable, but not as elegant as anodizing or chrome.

post #5531 of 19260
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

Isn't chrome the current version? Matte only existed for a little while iirc.
The early 325, black and silver, were anodized aluminum.
The 325i was gold anodized aluminum.
The first 325is was brushed (or matte) silver and also anodized. 
Then around 2011 Grado changed from anodizing and hence the recent different and inconsistent finishes.
325is in chrome are rare. This finish did not work in terms of consistency or durability and they stopped chrome 325is pretty quickly (3 months).
Variations of this expensive chrome finish is still used on the PS1000 which is why they have inconsistent finish.
The current 325is  (and PS500) are powder-coated aluminum. Powder coating is consistent, inexpensive and durable, but not as elegant as anodizing or chrome.
quote never realized the outers on the black ones were aluminum. iI wish they were stillanodized. I also thought the ps500was anodized. thanks for the info.
post #5532 of 19260
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quote never realized the outers on the black ones were aluminum. iI wish they were stillanodized. I also thought the ps500was anodized. thanks for the info.

black is beautiful, baby.

the black aluminum cups on the 325 are larger (deeper)  than the plastic cups on the 125/225 which were launched at the same time - hence the bigger/better sound.

these were the top Grados at the time (1993ish) as they precede the first RS1

 

700

post #5533 of 19260
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post


quote never realized the outers on the black ones were aluminum. iI wish they were stillanodized. I also thought the ps500was anodized. thanks for the info.

black is beautiful, baby.

the black aluminum cups on the 325 are larger (deeper)  than the plastic cups on the 125/225 which were launched at the same time - hence the bigger/better sound.

these were the top Grados at the time (1993ish) as they precede the first RS1

 

700


Oh, wow, I didn't realize all that. They also had the HP1000 drivers, right?

post #5534 of 19260
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Oh, wow, I didn't realize all that. They also had the HP1000 drivers, right?

The black 325 had mixed drivers - some HP1000, some pink transitional and some white. 

They were launched when Grado was transitioning from outsourcing the HP1000 drivers to 'making' their own drivers.

Mine are pink - you can see a little of the color in the background - and they are my favorite John Grados.

post #5535 of 19260

The chrome were quite beautiful, I had the chance to put my hands on one of them when I was looking for a sr325is to buy, I decided  for the powder aluminium because of the alleged production problems they had and because they were a newer version. The RS-1 are stunning, I think it's the most beautiful Grado, but in terms of overall sound quality I noticed, taking into consideration all the comments, they are comparable to de the PS500, there is kind of a dispute between these two cans going on.
 


Edited by myears - 11/10/12 at 11:08am
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