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Hey guys....so I have a deal in the works for a pair of GS1ks...should have something finalized in the next week, two at the most. If anyone can suggest some demo tracks that will help me discern the advantages the GS1ks bring to the table over the PS500s, I'd really appreciate that. I know they are known to have a larger sound stage and more bass, so I have that to go on so far. I was really thinking I'd go with the RS-1/2 for my next GRado buy, but then this opportunity presented itself....I know there are a lot of people who love the GS1ks, so please chime in with any suggestions you may have for when I go to demo them. 

post #4757 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

Hey guys....so I have a deal in the works for a pair of GS1ks...should have something finalized in the next week, two at the most. If anyone can suggest some demo tracks that will help me discern the advantages the GS1ks bring to the table over the PS500s, I'd really appreciate that. I know they are known to have a larger sound stage and more bass, so I have that to go on so far. I was really thinking I'd go with the RS-1/2 for my next GRado buy, but then this opportunity presented itself....I know there are a lot of people who love the GS1ks, so please chime in with any suggestions you may have for when I go to demo them. 

I like the 1K's but I'm pretty sure they will be brighter than the half K's.

post #4758 of 24597
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

I like the 1K's but I'm pretty sure they will be brighter than the half K's.

 

The highs will be of particular interest to me....assuming there is a continuum from the PS500s to the 325s, I'm assuming the GS1ks will fall somewhere in the middle. Ive enjoyed the highs on every Grado I've heard to this point, so looking forward to seeing if that remains the case. 

post #4759 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

Hey guys....so I have a deal in the works for a pair of GS1ks...should have something finalized in the next week, two at the most. If anyone can suggest some demo tracks that will help me discern the advantages the GS1ks bring to the table over the PS500s, I'd really appreciate that. I know they are known to have a larger sound stage and more bass, so I have that to go on so far. I was really thinking I'd go with the RS-1/2 for my next GRado buy, but then this opportunity presented itself....I know there are a lot of people who love the GS1ks, so please chime in with any suggestions you may have for when I go to demo them. 

 

Well I can't speak to the 1K's, but I am a big fan of the 500's like you. As you know I recently got some RS1's and I can't believe how much I'm liking their airy and detailed presentation-I can't believe how great they are for small group jazz and anything acoustic. The 500's have that slam we are so fond of, but the RS1 is more like wearing high end speakers on your head if you ask me (but way more comfortable). I would say try the RS1 along side the 1K if possible. Anyway if it's Grado it's all good!

 

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Originally Posted by desertblues View Post

 

Well I can't speak to the 1K's, but I am a big fan of the 500's like you. As you know I recently got some RS1's and I can't believe how much I'm liking their airy and detailed presentation-I can't believe how great they are for small group jazz and anything acoustic. The 500's have that slam we are so fond of, but the RS1 is more like wearing high end speakers on your head if you ask me (but way more comfortable). I would say try the RS1 along side the 1K if possible. Anyway if it's Grado it's all good!

 

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Heck yeah, if the GS1ks are up to par, I'll change the deal for some RS-1s and cash instead, or something along those lines....can't wait to hear both of these! 

post #4761 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

Heck yeah, if the GS1ks are up to par, I'll change the deal for some RS-1s and cash instead, or something along those lines....can't wait to hear both of these! 

 

i'm assuming that you are talking about the GS1K non ''i'' model,because they do sound different than the newer model,the first gen GS1K had a slightly bigger soundstage and were a bit more treble oriented than the ''i''model,to me,the new GS1K sounds more like the PS1K than the old model does,they have a more neutral sound and a bit deeper bass too,in my opinion,they come dangerously close to the PS1K,for significantly less.

 

Regarding the RS1i,i had the chance to compare them to the 500 at home for a few days,i listened to the RS1i first, and then my dealer let me have the 500 to compare them with,the only thing i did not like about the RS1i,was a lack of "air",it was like a beam of light was shining on each performer,and the rest of the soundstage was pitch black,and when i switched to either my old GS1K or the 500 it was like the whole soundstage was lit not just the performers,like the music was "breathing" again,i don"t know if this makes any sence to you,but it"s the only way i can explain it.

 

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

 

i'm assuming that you are talking about the GS1K non ''i'' model,because they do sound different than the newer model,the first gen GS1K had a slightly bigger soundstage and were a bit more treble oriented than the ''i''model,to me,the new GS1K sounds more like the PS1K than the old model does,they have a more neutral sound and a bit deeper bass too,in my opinion,they come dangerously close to the PS1K,for significantly less.

 

Regarding the RS1i,i had the chance to compare them to the 500 at home for a few days,i listened to the RS1i first, and then my dealer let me have the 500 to compare them with,the only thing i did not like about the RS1i,was a lack of "air",it was like a beam of light was shining on each performer,and the rest of the soundstage was pitch black,and when i switched to either my old GS1K or the 500 it was like the whole soundstage was lit not just the performers,like the music was "breathing" again,i don"t know if this makes any sence to you,but it"s the only way i can explain it.

 

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it's a new pair, so it'll be the "i" model....Im definitely going to spend some time with it before I pull the trigger, and the PS500s are the benchmark 

post #4763 of 24597
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

I owned all these and just can't agree. IMO the only time the 60s sound better than the 225 would be through a bad source or with low res files. 

All lossless rips with the headphones through NuForce Icon HD.

 

Yeah, like I said I'm in the minority here, or perhaps the only one who likes the SR60i better... Hey, even I'm shocked. Every few days I'll occasionally pick up my SR225i and SR325i and do brief comparisons to the SR60i just to make sure I'm not crazy. And every time, I can honestly say I like the SR60i presentation better.

 

But anyway, here's my take on the SR60i vs SR225i vs SR325i:

 

SR60i's soundstage is quite narrow. What this does it brings the lows and mids equally as forward and immediate as the highs are.  What most set the SR225i apart from the SR60i to my ears was a relative increase in soundstage depth. Thus, the lows and mids sounded a bit more spacious, and consequently not as near as the SR60i's. The highs on the SR225i, however, did not take a step back like the lows and mids did. This made the highs of the SR225i seem more accentuated than on the SR60i, and overall the SR60i's sounded more balanced in a direct comparison. Moving on, the SR325is simply sounded slightly U-shaped in frequency, relative to the other Grados. Now, this is probably just more an issue of preference, because I don't like U-shaped. The SR60i's mids, relative to the other frequencies, made the SR60i's sound the most mid-centric of all the Prestige Series headphones to me. Which I really liked.

In the end, the increased soundstage of the SR225i / SR325i didn't lend it to sound better to my ears, but quite the opposite. Keep in mind I listen to a lot of energetic Rock, Alternative Rock, Metal and other genres with a lot of sound goin' on. With these genres, the SR60i's presentation just sounded a bit more balanced to my ears.

But yeah...I just thought that if my ears are crazy enough to prefer the SR60i, maybe someone else's ears out there are similar. So I wanted to offer my input on the chance that someone might automatically assume the higher priced Grados sound better.

 

For what it's worth - I thought the SR125i was the best sounding Prestige Series model! More proof that I'm just crazy ><

post #4764 of 24597

I'm thinking of going ahead and modding my 325is but before I do, I want to check something with you guys.  I mostly listen to rock, alternative rock, and metal, what would you guys  say is the best Grado model for those genres?  Should I stick with my 325is or go with something else?  I was considering the RS1s, but more reading made me think those tend to lean towRd jazz and classical.  How are the PS500s?

post #4765 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

Hey guys....so I have a deal in the works for a pair of GS1ks...should have something finalized in the next week, two at the most. If anyone can suggest some demo tracks that will help me discern the advantages the GS1ks bring to the table over the PS500s, I'd really appreciate that. I know they are known to have a larger sound stage and more bass, so I have that to go on so far. I was really thinking I'd go with the RS-1/2 for my next GRado buy, but then this opportunity presented itself....I know there are a lot of people who love the GS1ks, so please chime in with any suggestions you may have for when I go to demo them. 

Congrats on maybe being able to snag a pair of them.

Looking foreword to seeing what your impression of them is compared to your PS-500. 

post #4766 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Boss429 View Post

Congrats on maybe being able to snag a pair of them.

Looking foreword to seeing what your impression of them is compared to your PS-500. 

 

It sounds like it's going to be a tough comparison since there are some real differences between them on paper. I really can't wait to give them a listen. I LOVED the look of the RS-1s, and the GS1ks look even nicer to me in pics (I love the mahogany....), so I'm really excited. I'm sort of anticipating that the GS1ks will have a hard time besting the PS500s to my ears, cause the 500s are the quintessential headphone for my brain....but what I'm hoping is that I like them just as much, or even ALMOST as much, and they give me enough of a different sonic signature to keep it interesting. That's my hope, anyway. I have yet to see a credible review where someone just plain didn't like them....unless they don't like Grados in general. But among those who know and like Grados, I've heard a lot of people say they really are fond of them. 

post #4767 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Valicious View Post

I'm thinking of going ahead and modding my 325is but before I do, I want to check something with you guys.  I mostly listen to rock, alternative rock, and metal, what would you guys  say is the best Grado model for those genres?  Should I stick with my 325is or go with something else?  I was considering the RS1s, but more reading made me think those tend to lean towRd jazz and classical.  How are the PS500s?

RS-1 are less bright, PS-500 are supposed to be even less bright (I haven't heard the "half K" (I like that name!)). RS-1 have better staging and tonality though. If you like very aggressive, keep the SR-325, but if you want more staging and "correct" voices, the RS-1 are nice. At least to my ears (admittedly I don't listen to very much metal/rock). I think either way you can't go wrong, but the RS-1 might do better if you want to add new genres. Compare if you can. smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

It sounds like it's going to be a tough comparison since there are some real differences between them on paper. I really can't wait to give them a listen. I LOVED the look of the RS-1s, and the GS1ks look even nicer to me in pics (I love the mahogany....), so I'm really excited. I'm sort of anticipating that the GS1ks will have a hard time besting the PS500s to my ears, cause the 500s are the quintessential headphone for my brain....but what I'm hoping is that I like them just as much, or even ALMOST as much, and they give me enough of a different sonic signature to keep it interesting. That's my hope, anyway. I have yet to see a credible review where someone just plain didn't like them....unless they don't like Grados in general. But among those who know and like Grados, I've heard a lot of people say they really are fond of them. 

RS-1 vs GSK is a battle for the ages man. The GSK have more sound-staging and a different fit than the RS-1 and it's siblings though. So be sure you have more than a few minutes for swapping, just to let the dramatic "wow" differences wear off. As far as music to try out - I'd just go with what you know. I've never had an issue with that school of thought, even comparing *very* different presentations (e.g. 'stats to dynamics, Ultrasone to terrestrial designs, etc).
post #4768 of 24597
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


RS-1 vs GSK is a battle for the ages man. The GSK have more sound-staging and a different fit than the RS-1 and it's siblings though. So be sure you have more than a few minutes for swapping, just to let the dramatic "wow" differences wear off. As far as music to try out - I'd just go with what you know. I've never had an issue with that school of thought, even comparing *very* different presentations (e.g. 'stats to dynamics, Ultrasone to terrestrial designs, etc).

 

Good call....makes sense to take the stuff I know best. Oh, and great name for the 500s...."half Ks" lol

post #4769 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

All lossless rips with the headphones through NuForce Icon HD.

 

Yeah, like I said I'm in the minority here, or perhaps the only one who likes the SR60i better... Hey, even I'm shocked. Every few days I'll occasionally pick up my SR225i and SR325i and do brief comparisons to the SR60i just to make sure I'm not crazy. And every time, I can honestly say I like the SR60i presentation better.

 

But anyway, here's my take on the SR60i vs SR225i vs SR325i:

 

SR60i's soundstage is quite narrow. What this does it brings the lows and mids equally as forward and immediate as the highs are.  What most set the SR225i apart from the SR60i to my ears was a relative increase in soundstage depth. Thus, the lows and mids sounded a bit more spacious, and consequently not as near as the SR60i's. The highs on the SR225i, however, did not take a step back like the lows and mids did. This made the highs of the SR225i seem more accentuated than on the SR60i, and overall the SR60i's sounded more balanced in a direct comparison. Moving on, the SR325is simply sounded slightly U-shaped in frequency, relative to the other Grados. Now, this is probably just more an issue of preference, because I don't like U-shaped. The SR60i's mids, relative to the other frequencies, made the SR60i's sound the most mid-centric of all the Prestige Series headphones to me. Which I really liked.

In the end, the increased soundstage of the SR225i / SR325i didn't lend it to sound better to my ears, but quite the opposite. Keep in mind I listen to a lot of energetic Rock, Alternative Rock, Metal and other genres with a lot of sound goin' on. With these genres, the SR60i's presentation just sounded a bit more balanced to my ears.

But yeah...I just thought that if my ears are crazy enough to prefer the SR60i, maybe someone else's ears out there are similar. So I wanted to offer my input on the chance that someone might automatically assume the higher priced Grados sound better.

 

For what it's worth - I thought the SR125i was the best sounding Prestige Series model! More proof that I'm just crazy ><

 

What do you listen to mostly? In some cases I like the sr80i more, but it's like 20% and when it happens it's more because I just can't stand the sr325i. But for highly produced music, like radiohead and other "modern" music in general it's is hard to go for the sr80i and the sr325 is haven.

post #4770 of 24597
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

Good call....makes sense to take the stuff I know best. Oh, and great name for the 500s...."half Ks" lol

Don't thank me for "half K" - bbophead said it first: http://www.head-fi.org/t/530965/grado-fan-club/4770#post_8753525

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