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post #4441 of 24992
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


If you are not bothered by the treble of the 325, go with it over the 225.  The 325 offers greater detail, frequency range, sound stage and build quality over the 225.  If you were bothered by the treble, get the Alessandro MS2 (based on the 325 but with less strident treble) or save money by going with the 225.

I didn't hear anything unpleasant in the 325s.  I'm going to be modding and woodying whatever I get too.  Are the 325s worth it if I'd be modding the hell out of either?

post #4442 of 24992
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Originally Posted by Valicious View Post

I didn't hear anything unpleasant in the 325s.  I'm going to be modding and woodying whatever I get too.  Are the 325s worth it if I'd be modding the hell out of either?

 

Depends on your preference.  I personally love my woodied 325is.  I can't say that it isn't placebo (as I had no way of ABXing the woody vs the stock)  But I have found that with the woody - as well as being lighter and more comfortable - it "seems" to me that the extreme brightness is toned down just a little.

 

I'm curious to compare eventually with an RS1i - but at the moment I have no compunction to go further up the Grado line.

post #4443 of 24992

Id go with the 325s and pair them with some tubes if possible...I loved the way mine sounded with my Little Dot I+ hybrid amp. Although with a decent solid state amp they sound pretty darn good, too. 

post #4444 of 24992
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Originally Posted by Valicious View Post

I didn't hear anything unpleasant in the 325s.  I'm going to be modding and woodying whatever I get too.  Are the 325s worth it if I'd be modding the hell out of either?

If you're gonna be throwing the cups in the trash to begin with, save the $100 and get the SR-225. smily_headphones1.gif
post #4445 of 24992
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

I had gone a couple of months without using my 80s until a few weeks ago....even though I have a couple headphones that are significantly better, I had forgotten just how good the 80s sound. 

 

Looks like those PS500's are getting a lot of attention,can't say i blame you,mine get used on a regular bases,i have in my computer room,and since i need my glasses to see what i'm doing,they fit perfectly with the comfies.

 

I just finish listening to Robert Michaels's Arizona cd with the SR80i on my Marantz 2220B,and they're sound quality still surprises me sometimes,and this was right after listening to Rebecca Pidgeon's Retrospective cd with my HP1000 on my old Yamaha CA-610II,so i think that says a lot about how nice SR80i's sound.     

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Looks like those PS500's are getting a lot of attention,can't say i blame you,mine get used on a regular bases,i have in my computer room,and since i need my glasses to see what i'm doing,they fit perfectly with the comfies.

 

I just finish listening to Robert Michaels's Arizona cd with the SR80i on my Marantz 2220B,and they're sound quality still surprises me sometimes,and this was right after listening to Rebecca Pidgeon's Retrospective cd with my HP1000 on my old Yamaha CA-610II,so i think that says a lot about how nice SR80i's sound.     

 

 

Yep, it just reinforces what I experienced when I first heard them...sometimes a speaker or headphone sounds good at first just because it's different...but the 80s have stood the test of time with me. It's been 9 months now and I still use them frequently and still consider them  the best headphones I've heard under $100. I have a handful of other headphones under $100 here collecting dust that never get used. I just have no desire to listen to them, whereas I've found applications for the 80s that allow them to stay active in my rotation. They're the only headphone at that price point that I could honestly live with as my only headphone if for some reason I was forced to only have one headphone. 

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What's everyone's opinion on the RS2i? I haven't really seen anybody talk about them the past couple pages. Is it a worthy upgrade from someone who has the SR80i's? Big differences (positive)? And for the price, is it a much better sounding headphone in comparison to the SR325is?


Edited by lightsplease - 9/10/12 at 3:01am
post #4448 of 24992

Valicious get the ones that you have listened to and liked the 325i's ..If you get the 225i's you might have one of them i wish got the 325i's moments..


Edited by our martin - 9/10/12 at 6:21am
post #4449 of 24992
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If you're gonna be throwing the cups in the trash to begin with, save the $100 and get the SR-225. smily_headphones1.gif

The other "difference" with the 325 is you get a leather headband. If you want leather in your eventual build, you'll have to spend $40-$60 for a leather headband if you buy the 225. I eventually traded up from the 225 to used MS2 because I wanted to remove some vinyl and plastic from my life. The 225s sound great and are lighter (more comfortable) than the 325.

post #4450 of 24992
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Originally Posted by lightsplease View Post

What's everyone's opinion on the RS2i? I haven't really seen anybody talk about them the past couple pages. Is it a worthy upgrade from someone who has the SR80i's? Big differences (positive)? And for the price, is it a much better sounding headphone in comparison to the SR325is?

The RS2i don't get enough love because the RS1i is objectively better - bigger cups = bigger sound. The RS1i also changes the plastic gimbals for nice metal ones, which account for a good portion of the $200 premium. If price is not the object then the RS1s are more better.

post #4451 of 24992
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

The other "difference" with the 325 is you get a leather headband. If you want leather in your eventual build, you'll have to spend $40-$60 for a leather headband if you buy the 225. I eventually traded up from the 225 to used MS2 because I wanted to remove some vinyl and plastic from my life. The 225s sound great and are lighter (more comfortable) than the 325.

Looks like your having one of them i wish i got the 325i's moments..he's going to mod the headphones anyways so he should get the best sounding headphones!

post #4452 of 24992
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

The other "difference" with the 325 is you get a leather headband. If you want leather in your eventual build, you'll have to spend $40-$60 for a leather headband if you buy the 225. I eventually traded up from the 225 to used MS2 because I wanted to remove some vinyl and plastic from my life. The 225s sound great and are lighter (more comfortable) than the 325.

I'd agree with this, but if all you want is the drivers, the SR-225 are a great buy - if you plan to re-use parts (like the headband, gimbals, etc) the SR-325 make some more sense certainly. I'm just not seeing the point in spending an extra $100 for stuff that would go in the trash.
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

The RS2i don't get enough love because the RS1i is objectively better - bigger cups = bigger sound. The RS1i also changes the plastic gimbals for nice metal ones, which account for a good portion of the $200 premium. If price is not the object then the RS1s are more better.

This. I will say I haven't heard the RS-2, but just the build quality point is worth considering. I remember devouringone (speaking of which - where'd he go?) making a point about the woodworking on the RS-2 being of lesser quality than the RS-1 or GS-1000 as well (I do not know if this is true, but basically everything else on the RS-1 is superior to the rest of the Grado line (GS/PS1k excluded), so it makes enough sense.

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Looks like your having one of them i wish i got the 325i's moments..he's going to mod the headphones anyways so he should get the best sounding headphones!

This is a good point martin - that second-guessing problem can absolutely ruin a purchase! redface.gif
post #4453 of 24992
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Originally Posted by our martin View Post

Looks like your having one of them i wish i got the 325i's moments..he's going to mod the headphones anyways so he should get the best sounding headphones!

The point I was trying to make is to also figure the cost of a leather headband into your final build. the 325 comes with one and the 225 doesn't. Sound-wise it makes no difference which you buy, they are the same except for the plastic cups and leather headband. One other advantage to the 325 is you also have the option to do a HF-2/PS500 mod by mounting drivers in wooden inners.

Can't lose with either the 225 or 325!

post #4454 of 24992
Just to throw it out there - the SR-225 could in theory give you an HF-1 "hybrid" option also. I'm not sure how hard this would be to build at home.

I will add that the leather headband on the RS-1 (I don't remember it much on the SR-325) is certainly an upgrade; it seems trivial, but it is an upgrade over the vinyl strap. I'm not sure if the aftermarket ones would be better still (I know you get more color options, which can make for a cool custom headphone!).
Edited by obobskivich - 9/10/12 at 9:34am
post #4455 of 24992
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post



This. I will say I haven't heard the RS-2, but just the build quality point is worth considering. I remember devouringone (speaking of which - where'd he go?) making a point about the woodworking on the RS-2 being of lesser quality than the RS-1 or GS-1000 as well (I do not know if this is true, but basically everything else on the RS-1 is superior to the rest of the Grado line (GS/PS1k excluded), so it makes enough sense.
 

I don't think the woodworking or build quality are better. They make both as well as they can for the price. The price difference is only $200. With retail mark-ups that means the RS1 likely costs $40 - $50 more to build than the RS2. That cost is easily eaten up by the larger cups, which require a bigger piece of wood to machine and the metal gimbals. The plastic gimbals are basically free to Grado as they already have the machine and mold to make as many as they like cheaply. Without the metal bits, the RS1 and RS2 would be priced close. This is also why only the top Grados get the metal. 

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