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post #3211 of 24256
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post

 Ahh Goodness smile.gif If your idea of a good time is large, spacious tracks (preferably recorded live) then the PS1000 is

 a total treat.

 

 PS1000.jpg

 

HEY, WHAT IS THIS FINISH OF THE PS1000?

post #3212 of 24256

it's the original matte finish. as muppetface said, the aluminium cups were prone to scratches and dings so grado started chrome plating them to improve durability. 

post #3213 of 24256

Chrome is supposed to be less prone to scratches and dings???

post #3214 of 24256

well that was grado's explanation for the change that i read somewhere. smile.gif i guess it would harden the cups as aluminium is a soft metal.

post #3215 of 24256
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Originally Posted by pcf View Post

Chrome is supposed to be less prone to scratches and dings???

 

I'm not sure,but i think they look very spectacular in chrome.

 

On a different note, i think that the HP-1000's are overrated,don't get me wrong,they sound very good,the mids are very naturals,and the bass is taut,i mainly use them for Jazz and female vocals,but in my opinion,the PS-1000 sound better,they have more bass and treble extension,while the mids sound just as good as the HP-1000,so needless to say that since i got my PS-1000,i rarely use the HP-1000,next week i'll order a pair of the ''improved'' flat pads for them,i can't wait to see if they'll make a significant difference.

post #3216 of 24256
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

 

I'm not sure,but i think they look very spectacular in chrome.

 

On a different note, i think that the HP-1000's are overrated,don't get me wrong,they sound very good,the mids are very naturals,and the bass is taut,i mainly use them for Jazz and female vocals,but in my opinion,the PS-1000 sound better,they have more bass and treble extension,while the mids sound just as good as the HP-1000,so needless to say that since i got my PS-1000,i rarely use the HP-1000,next week i'll order a pair of the ''improved'' flat pads for them,i can't wait to see if they'll make a significant difference.

400% should be a pretty significant difference. biggrin.gif

Joking aside, please do let us know what you think about the new pads.

post #3217 of 24256

i'd love to be able to compare the legendary hp-1000 and ps-1 with the rs1i, gs1000i and ps1000 for myself but that's highly unlikely. frown.gif

post #3218 of 24256
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Originally Posted by shimmer n roar View Post

i'd love to be able to compare the legendary hp-1000 and ps-1 with the rs1i, gs1000i and ps1000 for myself but that's highly unlikely. frown.gif

Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt. wink.gif

post #3219 of 24256
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Originally Posted by pcf View Post

400% should be a pretty significant difference. biggrin.gif

Joking aside, please do let us know what you think about the new pads.

 

Yeah! 400% that was a good one,i don't know how long it will take to get them,but i'll sure let you guys know my impressions.

post #3220 of 24256
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Originally Posted by pcf View Post

Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt. wink.gif


so i see. smile.gif i still haven't got around to comparing john grado's current top three. do you have a preference between joe's hp1000 and john's ps1 and ps1000? do they share much in common?


Edited by shimmer n roar - 6/8/12 at 7:26pm
post #3221 of 24256

Can just anyone order the "improved flats" from Grado? How different are they from the TTVJ flats?

post #3222 of 24256
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Originally Posted by shimmer n roar View Post

i'd love to be able to compare the legendary hp-1000 and ps-1 with the rs1i, gs1000i and ps1000 for myself but that's highly unlikely. frown.gif

 

Ask Pcf, he has them ;).

*Oh you have done that already :P. You can ask me also, but I can only talk from the reviews and users impressions I've read. I only owned/own the HP-1000 in all of these you named, lol

 

 

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Originally Posted by shimmer n roar View Post

it's the original matte finish. as muppetface said, the aluminium cups were prone to scratches and dings so grado started chrome plating them to improve durability. 

 

I don't think so ;).

Original finish (wet):

900x900px-LL-6342536e_IMG_0350.jpeg 900x900px-LL-ed2ebfbf_669578840_MYcRv-XL.jpeg

 

Second finish (satin):

900x900px-LL-e5e8b030_c5cf85f8_DSC00283.jpeg

 

(third is chromed)

 

And none of them look like this photoshopped, modded, or newly finished PS1000:

b1e21409_PS1000.jpeg (click to zoom and see the grain in the metal, I would call it the "industrial" finish) (I don't even think a special lighting could change the texture of any of the current PS1000 finishes)

 

brushed-metal-texture.jpg

 

I'd be very glad is anyone can tell me what that is, lol, thank you

 

 

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Originally Posted by pcf View Post

It would be interesting to compare Purrin's mod with Joe's mod (not price wise of course biggrin.gif). 

 

Yep. But I think they are both doing opposite things. Purrin's is trying to tame the midrange, and Joe's mod makes it more forward, according to that guy who listened to your HP1i.

 

Joe's mod is a lot more complex, and I trust him that it's for the better (you Pcf already know the answer to this ;). After 20 plus years of using the same headphones and listening to his own recordings, sometimes his own singing coming from his own microphones (Joseph Grado sung opera; to those who didn't know), I think he knows neutrality and how his voice sounds, when nicely recorded and how it should be played back. We need not to forget that he built this headphone from scratch, basically, and knows his way around it, the reasons of each shapes and figures and effects of the materials used etc. on sound quality more than anyone else. And since he's a tinkering perfectionist he must have a lot of experience, resources and formulas for compounds (or recipes and spices he calls them) on hands to improve the phone, in more ways than a single-way mod using Creatology Foam would do.

 

As a big fan of JG signature products I find it is 1.4k dollars well spent (sort of), but there's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box and using foam either. It's cheap and easy to try.


Edited by devouringone3 - 6/8/12 at 8:10pm
post #3223 of 24256

I would also love to read MuppetFace's take on the HP-1000, so +1 LCFiner

 

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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post

As far as I know / heard / read, they were limited made, around 250, but I think it was more, on order of German business guy with his specified wishes, so, most of them were sold outside of US, mean Germany, but I may be wrong.

 

There is the German Freesystems company, FG-1 headphone (Grado) + infrared wireless (Freesystems technology) emitter and wireless RA-1 (Grado + FS) kit that has been requested and then canceled by German distributor, so it was never put for sale, but at least 27 were made and got in the wild, and no one knows how.

 

Found this picture on Fujiya Avic's headphone blog:

900x900px-LL-91b96a7a_af31cfae.jpeg Made in 2001 and to be released in 2002

 

RRP was 3800 USD, and I've found one on auction at yahoo.jp that was at around 4200 USD in the time of the picture I have.

900x900px-LL-a3617bb9_Itsabout4250dollars.jpeg

 

Some of them had the "Freesystems" branding markup erased and put Grado PS-1 on top, and all the left over stocks were labeled "Grado PS-1" and sold, some without serial (very few), some with it, up to #~250, at TTVJ in 2004 for 1400$.

900x900px-LL-10d0eb7c_Doubleletter.jpeg

 

Here's my photo album about the FG-1 http://www.head-fi.org/gallery/album/view/id/649535/user_id/223115


Edited by devouringone3 - 6/8/12 at 8:08pm
post #3224 of 24256
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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

Ask Pcf, he has them ;).

*Oh you have done that already :P. You can ask me also, but I can only talk from the reviews and users impressions I've read. I only owned/own the HP-1000 in all of these you named, lol

 

 

 

I don't think so ;).

Original finish (wet):

900x900px-LL-6342536e_IMG_0350.jpeg 900x900px-LL-ed2ebfbf_669578840_MYcRv-XL.jpeg

 

Second finish (satin):

900x900px-LL-e5e8b030_c5cf85f8_DSC00283.jpeg

 

(third is chromed)

 

And none of them look like this photoshopped, modded, or newly finished PS1000:

b1e21409_PS1000.jpeg (click to zoom and see the grain in the metal, I would call it the "industrial" finish) (I don't even think a special lighting could change the texture of any of the current PS1000 finishes)

 

brushed-metal-texture.jpg

 

I'd be very glad is anyone can tell me what that is, lol, thank you

 

 

 

Yep. But I think they are both doing opposite things. Purrin's is trying to tame the midrange, and Joe's mod makes it more forward, according to that guy who listened to your HP1i.

 

Joe's mod is a lot more complex, and I trust him that it's for the better (you Pcf already know the answer to this ;). After 20 plus years of using the same headphones and listening to his own recordings, sometimes his own singing coming from his own microphones (Joseph Grado sung opera; to those who didn't know), I think he knows neutrality and how his voice sounds, when nicely recorded and how it should be played back. We need not to forget that he built this headphone from scratch, basically, and knows his way around it, the reasons of each shapes and figures and effects of the materials used etc. on sound quality more than anyone else. And since he's a tinkering perfectionist he must have a lot of experience, resources and formulas for compounds (or recipes and spices he calls them) on hands to improve the phone, in more ways than a single-way mod using Creatology Foam would do.

 

As a big fan of JG signature products I find it is 1.4k dollars well spent (sort of), but there's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box and using foam either. It's cheap and easy to try.

 

well as i said, that was the explanation that grado gave for introducing the chrome plated finish.

 

the only ps1000 that i've seen in the flesh looked very much like the one in the photo that gwarmi posted. it had a matte aluminium finish. there was no satin sheen like the first two images that you've posted. in fact, it looked similar to your third image.

 

a ps1000 owner posted some superb photos that he had taken of it here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/460299/grado-ps1000-photos but unfortunately only one image remains, which is the one that gwarmi (and i) used.

 

here is another nice rendition and no satin sheen there either. smile.gif

 

PS1000


Edited by shimmer n roar - 6/9/12 at 12:08am
post #3225 of 24256
Quote:
Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

Ask Pcf, he has them ;).

*Oh you have done that already :P. You can ask me also, but I can only talk from the reviews and users impressions I've read. I only owned/own the HP-1000 in all of these you named, lol

 

 

 

I don't think so ;).

Original finish (wet):

900x900px-LL-6342536e_IMG_0350.jpeg 900x900px-LL-ed2ebfbf_669578840_MYcRv-XL.jpeg

 

Second finish (satin):

900x900px-LL-e5e8b030_c5cf85f8_DSC00283.jpeg

 

(third is chromed)

 

And none of them look like this photoshopped, modded, or newly finished PS1000:

b1e21409_PS1000.jpeg (click to zoom and see the grain in the metal, I would call it the "industrial" finish) (I don't even think a special lighting could change the texture of any of the current PS1000 finishes)

 

brushed-metal-texture.jpg

 

I'd be very glad is anyone can tell me what that is, lol, thank you

 

 

 

Yep. But I think they are both doing opposite things. Purrin's is trying to tame the midrange, and Joe's mod makes it more forward, according to that guy who listened to your HP1i.

 

Joe's mod is a lot more complex, and I trust him that it's for the better (you Pcf already know the answer to this ;). After 20 plus years of using the same headphones and listening to his own recordings, sometimes his own singing coming from his own microphones (Joseph Grado sung opera; to those who didn't know), I think he knows neutrality and how his voice sounds, when nicely recorded and how it should be played back. We need not to forget that he built this headphone from scratch, basically, and knows his way around it, the reasons of each shapes and figures and effects of the materials used etc. on sound quality more than anyone else. And since he's a tinkering perfectionist he must have a lot of experience, resources and formulas for compounds (or recipes and spices he calls them) on hands to improve the phone, in more ways than a single-way mod using Creatology Foam would do.

 

As a big fan of JG signature products I find it is 1.4k dollars well spent (sort of), but there's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box and using foam either. It's cheap and easy to try.

 

As i've said before,i bought my HP-1000 because i like the way they sound as they are,so,with all due respect to Joe's work,what he sees as an improvement,might not be to me,once modified they might not mate as well with my sound system,it kills me that i can't hear a modified pair of HP-1000,but i'm just not willing to risk it.

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