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post #18046 of 21215
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Originally Posted by hsubox View Post
 

Yep! Those are the ones I'm using.

 

How are you liking the Bifrost?  I use the modi, was wondering if it would be worth upgrading.

post #18047 of 21215
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How are you liking the Bifrost?  I use the modi, was wondering if it would be worth upgrading.

 

The Bifrost/Little Dot combination is sublime. Sparkly, lively, and plenty of impact from the RS1s. Just a very clean sound.

post #18048 of 21215

"Grados, How Do We Love Thee?  Let Me Count The Ways..."

 

I analyzed one year's worth of responses to the thread "Rank The Headphones That You Own," resulting in a compilation of 2,000 headphone rankings by head-fi.org participants.  That analysis is posted here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/721406/how-we-rank-our-own-headphones-statistics-of-2-000-owner-rankings-compiled#post_10597847

 

Here, I look specifically at the Grado / Alessandro responses. Because my data ended on June 1, 2014, there are no inclusions of the newer "-e" series of Grados in this data.

 

Of those 2,000 comparisons, 113 involved Grado headphones, or 5.6%.  Grado owners are a select crew, in the (top, of course) 6% of head-fi-ers.  Here is how Grados broke down by model:

 


Grado headphone models ranked, by decreasing count.

 

I developed a "rank-order score," in which if a headphone occurred at the top of a list of a headphones ranking, it would score a "0" and if it was at the bottom, it scored a "1" - hence, if the headphone had as many other models ranked above it as below it, it received a score of 0.50

 

Here are the most popular Grado headphones, sorted in order of increasing rank-order score (i.e., highest-rated headphone on top).  Be aware that this ranking is rather artificial, as each headphone is compared to whatever other headphones its owner has... one owner may be comparing a Grado to a bunch of Sennheisers, and another may rank it in comparison to an assortment of AKGs and Audio-Technicas. 

 

Most popular Grado headphones, in decending order of rank order position score.

 

To proceed further, it is necessary to look at individual rank-order score listings.  The first entry in the table above indicates that the Grado RS2i was included in two different rank orderings.  Here are the specific rank orders involved:

 

The two rankings of the Grado RS2i place it in the middle of the left list (50% score) and at the top of the right (0%).

 

We perform this rank ordering for each of the 13 Grado models listed two tables above.  As we do, we find that certain other headphone models appear in multiple rankings.  Here is an example, in which the 13 rankings of the Grado SR225i are shown (7 in the first table, the other 6 in the second).  Other (non-Grado) headphones that occur in multiple rankings are colored to match each other (click to enlarge):

 

Thirteen rankings of the Grado SR225i, color-coding common alternative headphones against which SR225i is ranked (e.g., medium blue is Sennheiser HD 25-1 II, occurring in two rankings).  Position score of the SR225i for each ranking is given at the top of the ranking.

 

Not all Grado model rankings had enough entries to show multiple occurrences of other headphones (for example, the RS2i ranking lists shown above have no other headphone occurring more than once).

 

However, if we look across all of the Grado models that DO have multiple occurrences of a particular other headphone model, we can build a table in which those Grado models run down the left side, and the various recurring other models are listed across the top. 

 

For a given Grado model, we have a band of six rows across the table.  The Grado model is always the fourth row of a band and is coded with a white background.  Commonly-occurring alternative headphone models are listed in each column, from left to right, in roughly decreasing order of relative quality to the Grados.  Hence, the Sennheiser HD800, ALWAYS listed higher than any Grado in any rank ordering, occurs as the first (left) column.

 

For each intersection of the Grado model band (6 consecutive rows) to a headphone column, we color a cell ABOVE the white Grado cell for each ranking that the alternative headphone is ranked higher than the Grado;  likewise when the alternative headphone is ranked lower than the Grado, we color a cell BELOW the Grado cell. (Again, click to enlarge).

 


Ranking of each popular Grado model (rows) vs. common other models (rows).  Each time the alternative model was ranked above the Grado, a cell above the white centerline Grado cell is colored; likewise a cell below the Grado cell is colored when the alternative headphone is ranked lower.

 

Recalling the comparison of the SR225i to the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II shown as blue cells in the table immediately prior to this table, we see that one of the comparisons placed the HD 25-1 II ABOVE the Grado SR225i, and the other placed it below the SR225i.  Therefore, in the table above, for the SR225i band (third major band from the top), in the column for the Sennheiser HD 25-1 (16 models in from the left, or 10 in from the right), there is one bright blue cell above the white Grado cell, and one bright blue cell below it.

 

For any Grado model band, as we pass from left to right, the white cell of that model has the colored cells all above it.  Hence, the first column (Sennheiser HD 800) is always rated higher than any of the Grados in their respective bands.  As we move along the band to the right, we eventually encounter situations where the Grado white cell has colored cells above and below it.  Hence, for the SR 325i (second band), one person ranked the Sony MDR-1R MK2 above the SR325i and one person ranked it below... hence the white Grado cell is sandwiched between two red Sony cells (19 columns in from left).  Two columns further right, the alternative headphones are consistently ranked lower than the Grado SR325i.  For example, the mustard cells of the V-MODA M-100 both occur below the white Grado S325i cell in the V-MODA M-100 column, 21 columns in from the left.

 

That table simply attempts to summarize the 85 rank-order listings that comprise the 13 models listed in the second table above.  I can provide (or post) each of those 85 rank order listings for further exploration on request, providing more detail than the summary above.

post #18049 of 21215
Great work. Thanks!

I think a simpler list that combines all the versions of a particular model (original series, i series, and modded) would be more representative of preferences. Together, there are 15 RS1's instead of only 7 and a lot of 80's.
post #18050 of 21215

WowI, I'm speechless, I never woul've had the patience to do something like that. Great work.

 

I'm not sur why you have the HP1000 separate from the HP2, if it's because you want to be as torough as possible, you may want to write HP1000-HP1, HP1000-HP2, and HP1000-HP3. Mine are HP2, by the way, also, I have the L-cush on my Bushmills. And as far as the PS1000 go, I think that there are at least two other members that own them, I think that LC and MH, also own PS1000.

 

I don't mean to bust your balls, but you obviously care about détails,so,I just want to help.

post #18051 of 21215
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post
 

"Grados, How Do We Love Thee?  Let Me Count The Ways..."

 

I analyzed one year's worth of responses to the thread "Rank The Headphones That You Own," resulting in a compilation of 2,000 headphone rankings by head-fi.org participants.  That analysis is posted here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/721406/how-we-rank-our-own-headphones-statistics-of-2-000-owner-rankings-compiled#post_10597847

 

Here, I look specifically at the Grado / Alessandro responses. Because my data ended on June 1, 2014, there are no inclusions of the newer "-e" series of Grados in this data.

 

Of those 2,000 comparisons, 113 involved Grado headphones, or 5.6%.  Grado owners are a select crew, in the (top, of course) 6% of head-fi-ers.  Here is how Grados broke down by model:

 


Grado headphone models ranked, by decreasing count.

 

I developed a "rank-order score," in which if a headphone occurred at the top of a list of a headphones ranking, it would score a "0" and if it was at the bottom, it scored a "1" - hence, if the headphone had as many other models ranked above it as below it, it received a score of 0.50

 

Here are the most popular Grado headphones, sorted in order of increasing rank-order score (i.e., highest-rated headphone on top).  Be aware that this ranking is rather artificial, as each headphone is compared to whatever other headphones its owner has... one owner may be comparing a Grado to a bunch of Sennheisers, and another may rank it in comparison to an assortment of AKGs and Audio-Technicas. 

 

Most popular Grado headphones, in decending order of rank order position score.

 

To proceed further, it is necessary to look at individual rank-order score listings.  The first entry in the table above indicates that the Grado RS2i was included in two different rank orderings.  Here are the specific rank orders involved:

 

The two rankings of the Grado RS2i place it in the middle of the left list (50% score) and at the top of the right (0%).

 

We perform this rank ordering for each of the 13 Grado models listed two tables above.  As we do, we find that certain other headphone models appear in multiple rankings.  Here is an example, in which the 13 rankings of the Grado SR225i are shown (7 in the first table, the other 6 in the second).  Other (non-Grado) headphones that occur in multiple rankings are colored to match each other (click to enlarge):

 

Thirteen rankings of the Grado SR225i, color-coding common alternative headphones against which SR225i is ranked (e.g., medium blue is Sennheiser HD 25-1 II, occurring in two rankings).  Position score of the SR225i for each ranking is given at the top of the ranking.

 

Not all Grado model rankings had enough entries to show multiple occurrences of other headphones (for example, the RS2i ranking lists shown above have no other headphone occurring more than once).

 

However, if we look across all of the Grado models that DO have multiple occurrences of a particular other headphone model, we can build a table in which those Grado models run down the left side, and the various recurring other models are listed across the top. 

 

For a given Grado model, we have a band of six rows across the table.  The Grado model is always the fourth row of a band and is coded with a white background.  Commonly-occurring alternative headphone models are listed in each column, from left to right, in roughly decreasing order of relative quality to the Grados.  Hence, the Sennheiser HD800, ALWAYS listed higher than any Grado in any rank ordering, occurs as the first (left) column.

 

For each intersection of the Grado model band (6 consecutive rows) to a headphone column, we color a cell ABOVE the white Grado cell for each ranking that the alternative headphone is ranked higher than the Grado;  likewise when the alternative headphone is ranked lower than the Grado, we color a cell BELOW the Grado cell. (Again, click to enlarge).

 


Ranking of each popular Grado model (rows) vs. common other models (rows).  Each time the alternative model was ranked above the Grado, a cell above the white centerline Grado cell is colored; likewise a cell below the Grado cell is colored when the alternative headphone is ranked lower.

 

Recalling the comparison of the SR225i to the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II shown as blue cells in the table immediately prior to this table, we see that one of the comparisons placed the HD 25-1 II ABOVE the Grado SR225i, and the other placed it below the SR225i.  Therefore, in the table above, for the SR225i band (third major band from the top), in the column for the Sennheiser HD 25-1 (16 models in from the left, or 10 in from the right), there is one bright blue cell above the white Grado cell, and one bright blue cell below it.

 

For any Grado model band, as we pass from left to right, the white cell of that model has the colored cells all above it.  Hence, the first column (Sennheiser HD 800) is always rated higher than any of the Grados in their respective bands.  As we move along the band to the right, we eventually encounter situations where the Grado white cell has colored cells above and below it.  Hence, for the SR 325i (second band), one person ranked the Sony MDR-1R MK2 above the SR325i and one person ranked it below... hence the white Grado cell is sandwiched between two red Sony cells (19 columns in from left).  Two columns further right, the alternative headphones are consistently ranked lower than the Grado SR325i.  For example, the mustard cells of the V-MODA M-100 both occur below the white Grado S325i cell in the V-MODA M-100 column, 21 columns in from the left.

 

That table simply attempts to summarize the 85 rank-order listings that comprise the 13 models listed in the second table above.  I can provide (or post) each of those 85 rank order listings for further exploration on request, providing more detail than the summary above.

 

:eek: 

post #18052 of 21215

My breakfast for this Saturday morning

 

 

 

post #18053 of 21215

the dead and the gs1000e , nice way to wake up here !

 

post #18054 of 21215
Starting em young! Woodied some SR60s for a family friends daughter who likes em more than beats!

post #18055 of 21215
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Starting em young! Woodied some SR60s for a family friends daughter who likes em more than beats!
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Fantastic pic. That's how Grado headphones will survive Beats, all you have to do is listen with them.
post #18056 of 21215
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Originally Posted by JoeDoe View Post

Starting em young! Woodied some SR60s for a family friends daughter who likes em more than beats!


This young and already spoiled :P
post #18057 of 21215
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Originally Posted by bpcans View Post


Fantastic pic. That's how Grado headphones will survive Beats, all you have to do is listen with them.


I think bpcans just hit upon the proper marketing slogan for Grado..

 

Beats beats!


Edited by kayandjohn - 8/23/14 at 8:38am
post #18058 of 21215
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post


I think bpcans just hit upon the proper marketing slogan for Grado..

Beats beats!
That's bpcans, LLC. Registered and Trademarked. Lol. It's all yours if you want it k&j.
post #18059 of 21215
would the shiit modi be to bright of a dac for a pair of MS1i's?
post #18060 of 21215

I think my Modi is too bright for my RS1, im looking to upgrade, not sure if that helps.

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Originally Posted by Gr33nL34f View Post

would the shiit modi be to bright of a dac for a pair of MS1i's?

I think my Modi is too bright for my RS1, im looking to upgrade, not sure if that helps.

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