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post #17326 of 18805

Thanks for the clarification - so yes, it's not the driver but rather the wood ring that I had difficulty fitting the older G cush around. For anyone that's done the G cush add-on to downstream cans (eg not 1000 series), any recommendations on how to fit the G cushs?

post #17327 of 18805
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Actually, I have gone back to the WA6 because the 6SE doesn't accept my favorite sounding 6SN7 tubes. I currently have the 6SE F/S. And yes the Woo amps IMO are excellent in every way. 


Actually, I think that's what I listened to. If I ended w/ some orthos It would be nice to have an amp that could accommodate both headphones

post #17328 of 18805
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 you really need to tell us about all of that equipment....hurry back  :p


It was frustrating. Just not enough time-3-6 pm and I missed the headfi meet today held in conjunction with the CAF. I had a 7 hours of teaching kayaking on the Potomac which is a blessing, but I would have enjoyed the meet. I may try to squeeze in tomorrow afternoon after my class. There were all these amazing headphones and amps and speaker systems and not enough time. For instance, I ran out of time to listen to Oppo.

 

 I have a small dedicated listening room (10 x 12) and I'm always torn between investing in my HP and speaker system. I spent some time listening to speakers suitable for a smaller room such as I have. Some small speakers that put out really amazing sound. And, as expected other stuff so expensive I would never be able to afford it-like speakers starting at 10K.

 

I walked into a room that a fellow Headfi pal was helping out with. I said, yeah, this sounds amazing. How much does this system run. Answer: 80 K. So, I don't work on Wall Street. Cheers.

 

anyway, what to say. Flavors. I'm looking at contrasting my RS1i with something different. If I forced were to buy something right now, it would probably be the newest incarnation of Audeze LCD-2. I don't see myself exceeding 1K. I did listen to the GS1000. listening along side Audeze and and HE, I was underwhelmed. The sleeper was the GS500 e which sounded really quite good. And, you guys know how these things are...you're listening for a few minutes to a vendor's laptop with a bunch of tracks for a few minutes.

 

My RS1i, sounded understated, clear, but thinner sounding than the Audeze and HE stuff-natch. At home, my RS1i sounds killler. But, kind of a runt next to these big ortos. The GS500 sounded more similar to the orthos in a way. It was Moon audio. They were cabled by Moon Audio and the new E series-maybe a bit more efficient. But for the money, I liked the GS500. There was a fullness to the sound-maybe a warmer, fuller or smoother sound. Seductive. Sexy.

 

I thought the HE400i was a great sounding HP for the price-involving and lively. The 560 was also really nice, more refined. At first blush, I would say the 400i would be great for rock/metal and the 560 was more neutral and would be terrific for jazz among others. I could be happy w/ the 560.  And for the money the Mr. Speakers sounded good, but not as good as Audeze to me. Contrast and price wise, the LCD-2 were a winner for me. Lush, warm, nice base but not overkill.

 

And, then as  I said in a previous post-the DAC and amplification made a huge difference. I have to say at a bargain price the Lyr-2/Bifrost sounded good -really good, but not as good as WOO and a  3K DAC-which is to be expected. 4-5 K in electronics makes a difference. Source, yo!


Edited by markm1 - 7/26/14 at 7:15pm
post #17329 of 18805

Sounds like a great time.....thanks for the update.

 

Hope you get to listen to more stuff tomorrow.

post #17330 of 18805
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 


Actually, I think that's what I listened to. If I ended w/ some orthos It would be nice to have an amp that could accommodate both headphones

Which did you listen too…the WA6 or the WA6-SE?

The WA6 IMO sounds more like a tube amp, where as the 6-SE sounds more like a SS amp. This could be the 6SN7 tubes making the WA6 sound more like a tube amp, but I'll never know being the 6-SE doesn't accept the 6SN7's. I also tried every tube combo with the 6-SE, and couldn't quite achieve that tube sound which I preferred from the WA6. One thing is for sure though…the 6-SE is a much more powerful amp than the WA6, but the WA6 is more than enough for low impedance dynamic headphones.

post #17331 of 18805
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Originally Posted by xaval View Post

It's easier to stand out the least Grado sounding cans. To me, these would be PS500 and PS1000.

RS1 is the king of the hill and the one that got me into the Grado sound - too bad they are so expensive in EU where the "value" of these cans takes a hit. But they're magical...

The next best thing would be 225 as best bang for the buck.

The RS series sounds quite similar and I remember having a hard time blindly selecting which was what, to be honest in a long session.
325s are the exception of the series: the most forward sounding and "aggressive" of the bunch. Once the Grado sound bites I think it's impossible not to own a pair at some point.

I'm still pretty new to headfi. Before last year the best cans I had were B&W P5's. So I'm not claiming to be an expert. Not sure how much different the 325e and the 325i sounded. But after having the 325e for two weeks the major differences between them and the PS500e is not as drastic as I've been reading. What stands out to me is the bass is tighter on the PS500, clearer vocals, but they are still pretty bright. Now granted my setup isn't impressive at all. I'm running everything through bitperfect and a D1 so I may may notice a difference with a better DAC AMP. I wanted the RS1 but didn't want to wait another week. I'm happy with the 500e I'm just looking for the right amp to pair with them.
post #17332 of 18805
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Originally Posted by xaval View Post

It's easier to stand out the least Grado sounding cans. To me, these would be PS500 and PS1000.

RS1 is the king of the hill and the one that got me into the Grado sound - too bad they are so expensive in EU where the "value" of these cans takes a hit. But they're magical...

The next best thing would be 225 as best bang for the buck.

The RS series sounds quite similar and I remember having a hard time blindly selecting which was what, to be honest in a long session.
325s are the exception of the series: the most forward sounding and "aggressive" of the bunch. Once the Grado sound bites I think it's impossible not to own a pair at some point.

Hmmm....I thought PS1000 were Grado's flagship?

Would it be generally correct to say Grado cans are for treble heads?

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Amazing... I just got back from auditioning the 325i (actually the newer -e version)... loved it and indeed different from my departed PS500s.

You sold your PS500's!

To make way for your HD800's?

I think I see your plan of action here wink.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 7/27/14 at 6:08am
post #17333 of 18805
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Hmmm....I thought PS1000 were Grado's flagship?

Would it be generally correct to say Grado cans are for treble heads?
You sold your PS500's!

To make way for your HD800's?

I think I see your plan of action here wink.gif

I actually *traded* my PS500s, along with my AKG K712s and a bit of $, for some AKG K3003is, knowing that my Senn HD 800 and HDVD 800 amp was coming.  I love, Love, LOVE the AKG K3003is... best trade I've ever made...

 

but... I MISS my Grados.  They were a family member, and their hook now hangs empty, glaring at me accusingly!

 

So now that I have more headphones (over 30) than I did when I got the PS500s, I'm looking for a Grado that is squarely in the middle of the unique Grado signature, rather than a Grado that, like the PS500, is better on all types of music.

 

Right now I conclude from Claritas and preceding posts that that is the Grado RS1 (hard to find), RS1i, SR225, or SR225i.

post #17334 of 18805
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post
 

I actually *traded* my PS500s, along with my AKG K712s and a bit of $, for some AKG K3003is, knowing that my Senn HD 800 and HDVD 800 amp was coming.  I love, Love, LOVE the AKG K3003is... best trade I've ever made...

 

but... I MISS my Grados.  They were a family member, and their hook now hangs empty, glaring at me accusingly!

 

So now that I have more headphones (over 30) than I did when I got the PS500s, I'm looking for a Grado that is squarely in the middle of the unique Grado signature, rather than a Grado that, like the PS500, is better on all types of music.

 

Right now I conclude from Claritas and preceding posts that that is the Grado RS1 (hard to find), RS1i, SR225, or SR225i.

Why do you say the RS1 is hard to find?

post #17335 of 18805
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post

I actually *traded* my PS500s, along with my AKG K712s and a bit of $, for some AKG K3003is, knowing that my Senn HD 800 and HDVD 800 amp was coming.  I love, Love, LOVE the AKG K3003is... best trade I've ever made...

but... I MISS my Grados.  They were a family member, and their hook now hangs empty, glaring at me accusingly!

So now that I have more headphones (over 30) than I did when I got the PS500s, I'm looking for a Grado that is squarely in the middle of the unique Grado signature, rather than a Grado that, like the PS500, is better on all types of music.

Right now I conclude from Claritas and preceding posts that that is the Grado RS1 (hard to find), RS1i, SR225, or SR225i.

Party hearty dude - HD800 + HDVD 800?

That's pretty awesome!

Welcome to soundstage heaven for sure smily_headphones1.gif

AKG K3003is? Never heard them, but stoked you love them cool.gif

So, these Grado cans intrigue me for sure, so much love shown - such a following - I'm interested in auditioning a pair but I think I'd prefer to check a model that retains some bass as I understand these cans are bass shy and mid to treble forward generally speaking?
Edited by cb3723 - 7/27/14 at 6:47am
post #17336 of 18805
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post

I actually *traded* my PS500s, along with my AKG K712s and a bit of $, for some AKG K3003is, knowing that my Senn HD 800 and HDVD 800 amp was coming.  I love, Love, LOVE the AKG K3003is... best trade I've ever made...

but... I MISS my Grados.  They were a family member, and their hook now hangs empty, glaring at me accusingly!

So now that I have more headphones (over 30) than I did when I got the PS500s, I'm looking for a Grado that is squarely in the middle of the unique Grado signature, rather than a Grado that, like the PS500, is better on all types of music.

Right now I conclude from Claritas and preceding posts that that is the Grado RS1 (hard to find), RS1i, SR225, or SR225i.

Party hearty dude - HD800 + HDVD 800?

That's pretty awesome!

Welcome to soundstage heaven for sure smily_headphones1.gif

AKG K3003is? Never heard them, but stoked you love them cool.gif

So, these Grado cans intrigue me for sure, so much love shown - such a following - I'm interested in auditioning a pair but I think I'd prefer to check a model that retains some bass as I understand these cans are bass shy and mid to treble forward generally speaking?

 The PS500 has the most bass of any grado,, up to that point in the chain.

 

You would have to get the PS1000e to even get close to the soundstage on the HD800.

 

The PS1000e is not as big a soundstage, but it is pretty dang good from my understanding.

 

kayandjohn....i know exactly how you feel about missing your ps500.....I recently sold my rs1i, and even though I did not find it as good as the hd800.......i still loved it very much and i do miss the rs1i sound

 

Is that a custom paint job by colorware on those hd800 in your avatar.....they look very nice.


Edited by whirlwind - 7/27/14 at 8:33am
post #17337 of 18805
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Hmmm....I thought PS1000 were Grado's flagship?

 

They are but they don’t sound the same as the SR and RS series. it’d less “grado sounding” than the other half dozen headphones Grado produces. Only exception being the GS1000, which is even less closer sounding to the rest of the line than the PS1000 (PS1000 has slightly smaller soundstage and more present midrange compared to GS1000)

 

The PS1000 has a lot better clarity, naturalness and detail retrieval over the RS1. But it doesn’t have the same midrange coloration and excitement that the RS1 (and pretty much every other Grado) has. So it sounds less intimate. You’re not on stage with the performers, you’re a few rows back. 

 

But it’s still a worthy flagship product by improving on the RS1 in pretty much every aspect. But if you really want the intimacy of the classic Grado midrange, then there’s nowhere up to go from the RS1.

post #17338 of 18805
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post

I actually *traded* my PS500s, along with my AKG K712s and a bit of $, for some AKG K3003is, knowing that my Senn HD 800 and HDVD 800 amp was coming.  I love, Love, LOVE the AKG K3003is... best trade I've ever made...

but... I MISS my Grados.  They were a family member, and their hook now hangs empty, glaring at me accusingly!

So now that I have more headphones (over 30) than I did when I got the PS500s, I'm looking for a Grado that is squarely in the middle of the unique Grado signature, rather than a Grado that, like the PS500, is better on all types of music.

Right now I conclude from Claritas and preceding posts that that is the Grado RS1 (hard to find), RS1i, SR225, or SR225i.

If you want, kayandjohn, I have a very good condition SR325is I'm trying to part with, and is be willing to give you a very good price! PM me if you're interested.

And congrats on the K3003i, I've heard they're stellar!

Happy Listening!
post #17339 of 18805
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post


If you want, kayandjohn, I have a very good condition SR325is I'm trying to part with, and is be willing to give you a very good price! PM me if you're interested.

And congrats on the K3003i, I've heard they're stellar!

Happy Listening!


Thanks, ThePianoMan.  Let me first see if I can find an RS1... if not, I may be back to you... thanks!

post #17340 of 18805
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

kayandjohn....i know exactly how you feel about missing your ps500.....I recently sold my rs1i, and even though I did not find it as good as the hd800.......i still loved it very much and i do miss the rs1i sound

 

Is that a custom paint job by colorware on those hd800 in your avatar.....they look very nice.

Yep... custom Formula Red and Jet Black on the HD800, and Formula Red, Jet Black, and Pearl White on the matching HDVD amplifier.  I was just notified Friday that the completed colorized 800s just went into the mail to me!!!

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