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post #17026 of 21252

I have never heard the GS1000, but i would love too...but I have always listened to all of my grados at a very low listening level.. that has always been the great thing about them....especially the RS1

post #17027 of 21252
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

I have never heard the GS1000, but i would love too...but I have always listened to all of my grados at a very low listening level.. that has always been the great thing about them....especially the RS1

 

Try them out! I really like how they are light, especially compared to the PS1000s

post #17028 of 21252
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

Jay, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the GS's relative to the LCD-2 since they're basically in the same price range.

 

 

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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post


Oh, great question


compared to the gs1000i, the lcd2.2 i had sound thick, syrupy , slooooooow, i've never regretted letting the lcd2 go, i have the gs1k though, i've had it three times , lol

 

i will say, the last lcd 2 i heard, at the meet in nashville, was much better

and on both versions of the lcd, the soundstage was bigger,

and the treble on the grado's was more extended, and more refined


Edited by jaywillin - 7/18/14 at 3:43pm
post #17029 of 21252

Altough I prefer the sound of my PS1000, I still reach for my non ''i'' GS1000, occasionally, and I agree, they do sound great at low volume, but then, so do the PS1000, but one area where the GS really shine, is comfort, I think that they are THE most comfortable Grados, especially for people that don't have Grado ears. I also think that the GS non ''i'' have the biggest soundstage of all Grados, and, this is a great advantage whit live performances.

post #17030 of 21252

The PS1000, GS1000 and some other Grado cans always seem perform their best at lower volumes. Its when you get up to higher listening volume like many do that they become problem cans for people. Goes the other way as well, the LCD2 sounds its best at higher volumes, at low listening volumes it seems unbelievably dark and dull at times, at high volume it sounds very different. One must remember that the human ears sensitivity to frequency changes as volume increases, so those PS1000 extremities in the bass/treble make them sound very balanced at lower volumes, at high volumes they can seem overblown at times - loudness contours and all.

 

I think that a lot of time that some of the differences and discrepancies of what we all hear can easily be explained by the fact that our perception of frequency curves changes depending of the volume itself. Someone pushing 85 db hears X headphone differently than at 65 db. 


Edited by HarleyZH - 7/19/14 at 4:58am
post #17031 of 21252

When I got my 225i's, I hated them.  They gathered dust for a few months in my practice space in the basement.  They sounded shrill and painful.

 

One day, when I was cleaning up a bit, I found the little sheet of paper that comes with Grado explaining how they are meant for low to moderate volume.  I figured, what the heck, and gave them another listen before putting them up for sale.  I think that's the moment that I became a Grado fan.

post #17032 of 21252
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When I got my 225i's, I hated them.  They gathered dust for a few months in my practice space in the basement.  They sounded shrill and painful.

 

One day, when I was cleaning up a bit, I found the little sheet of paper that comes with Grado explaining how they are meant for low to moderate volume.  I figured, what the heck, and gave them another listen before putting them up for sale.  I think that's the moment that I became a Grado fan.

 

+1...Absolutely...Grados excell at low volume listening

post #17033 of 21252

Totally off-topic, but do any of you folk use a Sonos?

 

I love my rig, but it's pretty complicated for someone who does not live, eat, and breathe this stuff.  Thinking about a Sonos so people can have easy access to the music, and make playlists on the fly.

 

Oh, it might be handy for a bedroom Grado rig.  See- back on topic.

post #17034 of 21252
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Totally off-topic, but do any of you folk use a Sonos?

 

I love my rig, but it's pretty complicated for someone who does not live, eat, and breathe this stuff.  Thinking about a Sonos so people can have easy access to the music, and make playlists on the fly.

 

Oh, it might be handy for a bedroom Grado rig.  See- back on topic.


i believe markm1 uses a sonos

post #17035 of 21252

My GS1000e impression is posted:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/724510/grado-labs-new-e-series-headphones-and-loaner-program/60#post_10724639

post #17036 of 21252
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My GS1000e impression is posted:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/724510/grado-labs-new-e-series-headphones-and-loaner-program/60#post_10724639

Nice review of your experience with the GS1Ke, thanks.

Glad you enjoyed them.

Would you purchase them for yourself?

post #17037 of 21252
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

My GS1000e impression is posted:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/724510/grado-labs-new-e-series-headphones-and-loaner-program/60#post_10724639

 

Very nice review....well done, Sir.

post #17038 of 21252
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Nice review of your experience with the GS1Ke, thanks.

Glad you enjoyed them.

Would you purchase them for yourself?

 

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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

 

Very nice review....well done, Sir.


Thanks, guys.

 

I would absolutely buy them right now if it fit my vision for my endgame, but that is a little muddy at the moment. $999 ain't cheap, and even though I can afford it, I personally think that throwing gobs of cash at this hobby is the easy way out.  I want to make sure I have the best combination of value/performance/lifestyle fit.

 

Right now, it depends on how the Alpha Dogs fare against the HE-560, which I should be getting as part of the tour in the next two weeks.  If the Alpha's maintain their overall supremacy, then the likelihood of buying the GS1Ke increases.  If the Alpha's get de-throned, it's more up in the air.

 

Plus- there are rumors of a replacement for the HE-6 in the next year or two.

post #17039 of 21252

Yes, nice set of impressions. I had a non-i GS1000 for around 6 months a few years ago and I liked them for some music - mainly orchestral or smaller scale classical. But I found that I didn’t enjoy them as much as other SR series Grados for most pop, rock or close iced acoustic. The genre bandwidth of the GS1000 was more narrow for me. (an issue that I feel Grado resolved with the PS1000, FWIW)

 

They absolutely provide a lot of detail but the frequency response is such that low level listening is where they do best. In some cases, that’s great. But not all cases. It seems that e series keeps this voicing mostly intact.

 

Once ares where the GS1000e seems like it might be fairly different from the GS1000 is bass response. in the impressions linked above, swspiers wrote: "Bass is there, and it extends quite deep, but it is very neutral and part of the whole presentation, not the main course."

 

The GS1000 bass sounds differently. Big bass hump at 100 Hz that immediately draws your attention and then steep rolloff down to 40 Hz. It very much wants to present a more exaggerated mid bass presence compared to stuff like the HD800 or Audeze cans. Both of which extend deeper to 20 or 30 Hz but have no boost in the bass impact region.

 

Interestingly, a very recent headfonics review of the PS1000e says that vs the PS1000, the bass kick on the e was milder and less pronounced - more reference level. Perhaps Grado performed a similar tuning on the GS1000e bass response, as well. All just speculation, of course.

 

thanks again for the impressions. Lots of detail and very balanced conclusion, imo.

post #17040 of 21252
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

My GS1000e impression is posted:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/724510/grado-labs-new-e-series-headphones-and-loaner-program/60#post_10724639


very , very nice write up !

i do listen at low levels, which may be why i like grado's so much.

one of the reasons i did not like the lcd 2 was having to listen at a level i did not like for them to sound their best

and one reason i really didn't expect a lot out of the lcd x, but i was wrong there.

back to the gs1000, when i first got one, it was an 'i' , and i said then, the gs1000 wasn't a great grado, it was just a great headphone !

i was number five on the loaner list, and i was so impatient i went and purchased a pair from todd and took my name

off the list. after a delay in shipping to due an unforeseen but understandable delay at grado, i was thinking i may cancel or change my order.

i think i'll just keep my order as is, and listen to the gs1000e for myself !!

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