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post #14491 of 18569

I have had the chance before to compare "burned-in" headphones to brand new, or at newer in-store versions of the same headphone, and I usually hear at least a slight difference, though its not always huge.  It's really big with the Grados though.

 

Also, I know it's a bit late to the party, but in terms of music, I found a newish artist called Nick Waterhouse who sounds really excellent on Grados!  Check out his "Holly" album.  Really cool mix of blues, little jazz, some funk, and rockabilly.  Very vintage sound, and he does everything analog with old ribbon mics and stuff.  Really awesome retro sound, bit like JD McPherson.

post #14492 of 18569
The BIFROST relay clicks whenever the datastream is interrupted, exactly as described in the faq on their website. Does it on SPDIF optical or coax.
post #14493 of 18569
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

People really underestimate the power of psychoacoustics. Many really want to believe that they can't be fooled by psychoacoustics too but it's really hard. I know I fall victim to it all the time.


+1

post #14494 of 18569
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Originally Posted by jimr101 View Post

I retired from Colorado to Arizona so that my San Diego sweetheart could get out of the cold. I'd been looking all over for a place to listen to all the grados at once. I was checking out the McIntosh dealer for the new headphone amp here in the Phoenix AZ valley and OMG!!! They are an authorized grado dealer. They have the full grado line up in there audition rooms. I got to listen to everything from the sr60i to the ps1000 via the rs1 rs2i gs1000 on an 80 grand McIntosh set up with 10 grand turntable Amy Grand sounded out of this world. Tube preamps with rows of tubes, burrbrown chips with no gitter a every thing a Grado fan dreams of. PURE NIRVANA OF SOUND. One major check off my bucket list. All the grados in one sitting multiplied by the best amps. I'm not associated with them in any way but I highly recommend stopping by their Tempe or Scottsdale AZ store and make an appointment for a listen to Grado heaven.


You are a very lucky man.

 

What did you like best ?

 

I got chilled, when you said rows of tubes  :p 

post #14495 of 18569
Whirlwind the Tempe AZ soundrooms are primarily McIntosh show rooms. As you know McIntosh amps are assemled in the USA much by hand with very much the same spirit adittude and pride as Grado. Their amps are built with the soul of the music as their name to fame was to build the sound system for the Grateful Dead. The legendary McIntosh sound just as we speak of a legendary Grado sound was founded on reproducing the music with the utmost integrity to the soul and way it was performed. Since most of the music at that time was made on the magnificent vintage tube amplifiers like the Marshalls. The McIntosh tube amps of course became their name to fame. This being said I spent most of my headphone time in the room that was full of vinyl with a ten thousand dollar turntable but mostly the phono preamp with probably 10 or 15 tubes in a row glowing with all the wonders of the legendary McIntosh amps. Back to your question on the grados. That was the room were I got to fully appreciate the pristine sound of the wood cups on the classical music to fully appreciate the rs1's or the pristine gs1000. I had come in mainly to give the sr325is a listen to see for myself if they were as bright as they were accused of. They were! What started it all is that on an equalizer at 63 years old I noticed how I had a tendency to crank up the treble and turn down the bass. I was playing with my new Samsung phone that has what basically is a hearing test called adaptive sound app. What I learned from it was that in fact I love bass, but clear crisp bass not the atrocious kind you get from beats headphones. And that the reason I crank the treble up was that it was that boomy horrible kind of bass that was drowning out my diminishing ability to hear the upper scale. So in my attention deficit way getting back to grados I learned that the sound that does it for me was the combination of wood cups and metal. In conclusion the ps1000 was it for me on that 80 grand McIntosh set up but in real life the ps500 would probably outdo my hearing or any set up I could ever put togeither in my lifetime. Being a Colorado mountain redneck hippie whatever that is that loves Alan Jackson and Dwight Yoakam as much as Neil Young Gratefuldead via Allman Brothers Freddie King southern boogie. The ps500 was it for me. I didn't find them dark at all but that could be the quality of the sound system. As I found out I crank the treble up because I do love a crisp sharp bass. My original thought was to get a pair of sr 325is and mod them with wood cups. But reading the specs on the drivers the cost would be so close that I would be better off just getting the ps500's. Now I really liked the comfort of the big over the ear G pads. The sound system was so extreme that I don't think I could truly evaluate the difference in ear pads. I know that I love my flats sound wise but my ears do get hot. Well it's early getting time to grind some fresh coffee. GRADOS AND COFFEE IN THE MORNING BREWS AND TUNES IN THE AFTERNOON and Jaywillin picking us some tunes. My imagination went wild in those gorgeous sound rooms. It anabled me to imagine a Club where you walk in to fresh coffee being roasted in house in the front and a micro brewery in back a full selection of grados to choose from you would buy or furnish your own earpads. Each listening station booth would have a Pono music player on the table slide your membership card to pick your favorite 16bit192khz music just like you would in the 50's dinners on the table juke box. Ah! Dreaming is such fun!
post #14496 of 18569
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Originally Posted by jimr101 View Post Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Whirlwind the Tempe AZ soundrooms are primarily McIntosh show rooms. As you know McIntosh amps are assemled in the USA much by hand with very much the same spirit adittude and pride as Grado. Their amps are built with the soul of the music as their name to fame was to build the sound system for the Grateful Dead. The legendary McIntosh sound just as we speak of a legendary Grado sound was founded on reproducing the music with the utmost integrity to the soul and way it was performed. Since most of the music at that time was made on the magnificent vintage tube amplifiers like the Marshalls. The McIntosh tube amps of course became their name to fame. This being said I spent most of my headphone time in the room that was full of vinyl with a ten thousand dollar turntable but mostly the phono preamp with probably 10 or 15 tubes in a row glowing with all the wonders of the legendary McIntosh amps. Back to your question on the grados. That was the room were I got to fully appreciate the pristine sound of the wood cups on the classical music to fully appreciate the rs1's or the pristine gs1000. I had come in mainly to give the sr325is a listen to see for myself if they were as bright as they were accused of. They were! What started it all is that on an equalizer at 63 years old I noticed how I had a tendency to crank up the treble and turn down the bass. I was playing with my new Samsung phone that has what basically is a hearing test called adaptive sound app. What I learned from it was that in fact I love bass, but clear crisp bass not the atrocious kind you get from beats headphones. And that the reason I crank the treble up was that it was that boomy horrible kind of bass that was drowning out my diminishing ability to hear the upper scale. So in my attention deficit way getting back to grados I learned that the sound that does it for me was the combination of wood cups and metal. In conclusion the ps1000 was it for me on that 80 grand McIntosh set up but in real life the ps500 would probably outdo my hearing or any set up I could ever put togeither in my lifetime. Being a Colorado mountain redneck hippie whatever that is that loves Alan Jackson and Dwight Yoakam as much as Neil Young Gratefuldead via Allman Brothers Freddie King southern boogie. The ps500 was it for me. I didn't find them dark at all but that could be the quality of the sound system. As I found out I crank the treble up because I do love a crisp sharp bass. My original thought was to get a pair of sr 325is and mod them with wood cups. But reading the specs on the drivers the cost would be so close that I would be better off just getting the ps500's. Now I really liked the comfort of the big over the ear G pads. The sound system was so extreme that I don't think I could truly evaluate the difference in ear pads. I know that I love my flats sound wise but my ears do get hot.
Well it's early getting time to grind some fresh coffee. GRADOS AND COFFEE IN THE MORNING BREWS AND TUNES IN THE AFTERNOON and Jaywillin picking us some tunes. My imagination went wild in those gorgeous sound rooms. It anabled me to imagine a Club where you walk in to fresh coffee being roasted in house in the front and a micro brewery in back a full selection of grados to choose from you would buy or furnish your own earpads. Each listening station booth would have a Pono music player on the table slide your membership card to pick your favorite 16bit192khz music just like you would in the 50's dinners on the table juke box. Ah! Dreaming is such fun!

sounds like a good idea for a business, a starbucks/brewhouse/music store

post #14497 of 18569
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post

The BIFROST relay clicks whenever the datastream is interrupted, exactly as described in the faq on their website. Does it on SPDIF optical or coax.

Yes, I read it …but it doesn't state with what input it does it with like you are stating.

Anyway I'm over the fact that the mute relay makes noise while switching tracks, I was just in shock last night when this happened, and it sounded like someone was using a typewriter next to me. It bothers me that I can't pause my Cd player without the relay continuously going  nuts! Schiit should have have stated it as you did, because it doesn't do it with the USB input, and if I would have known this I would have ordered it with the USB option for my MBP. But anyway I'll live with it due to my 3hr initial listening impressions in clarity/crispness and the faster/tighter bass that I noticed compared too my 20+ year old Meridian 203. I'll probably sell the Meridian and install the USB upgrade anyway.

post #14498 of 18569
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 
I'm almost considering returning it and trying the Peachtree DAC-itx I'm so aggravated. 

I've never heard any Schiit.  I have a DacIT (the original) and really like it.  No stupid noises.  (Why would you sell equipment with this "feature"?)  The Peachtree has a nice dreamy soundstage with optical/coax/usb.  If you get the itch, you'll be happy, IMHO.  Life is too short to put up with incompetence.

post #14499 of 18569
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Yes, I read it …but it doesn't state with what input it does it with like you are stating.

Anyway I'm over the fact that the mute relay makes noise while switching tracks, I was just in shock last night when this happened, and it sounded like someone was using a typewriter next to me. It bothers me that I can't pause my Cd player without the relay continuously going  nuts! Schiit should have have stated it as you did, because it doesn't do it with the USB input, and if I would have known this I would have ordered it with the USB option for my MBP. But anyway I'll live with it due to my 3hr initial listening impressions in clarity/crispness and the faster/tighter bass that I noticed compared too my 20+ year old Meridian 203. I'll probably sell the Meridian and install the USB upgrade anyway.


the usb option is easy to install yourself, i did one

post #14500 of 18569
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post
 

I've never heard any Schiit.  I have a DacIT (the original) and really like it.  No stupid noises.  (Why would you sell equipment with this "feature"?)  The Peachtree has a nice dreamy soundstage with optical/coax/usb.  If you get the itch, you'll be happy, IMHO.  Life is too short to put up with incompetence.

I looked into this DAC before buying the Bitfrost…the dimensions in the ad on Amazon say it is 1x 1x 1", this can't be right, and Peachtrees site doesn't give the dimensions on the DACit. Can you please tell me the dimensions when you get a chance? thank you. 

 

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the usb option is easy to install yourself, i did one

Yes, from what I understand it snaps in.

post #14501 of 18569
What is this "BITFROST" device?confused_face(1).gif
post #14502 of 18569

I personally love the 'click' of my Bifrost.  It tells me it's adjusting to the sample rate, and also tells me when Spotify isn't giving me 320.

post #14503 of 18569
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post
 

I've never heard any Schiit.  I have a DacIT (the original) and really like it.  No stupid noises.  (Why would you sell equipment with this "feature"?)  The Peachtree has a nice dreamy soundstage with optical/coax/usb.  If you get the itch, you'll be happy, IMHO.  Life is too short to put up with incompetence.


my wadia clicks when changing tracks, and its usb, doesn't bother me at all, now it doesn't click on mute, but anytime signal changes, it clicks

i've had the dacit too, it is very good, but i had a problem with it having drop outs when listening through jriver at anything over 16/44

and i never had that with the bifrost

post #14504 of 18569
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

I personally love the 'click' of my Bifrost.  It tells me it's adjusting to the sample rate, and also tells me when Spotify isn't giving me 320.


yup, i fell the same about my wadia, it tells me its changing rates

post #14505 of 18569
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I looked into this DAC before buying the Bitfrost…the dimensions in the ad on Amazon say it is 1x 1x 1", this can't be right, and Peachtrees site doesn't give the dimensions on the DACit. Can you please tell me the dimensions when you get a chance? thank you. 

 

Yes, from what I understand it snaps in.


more square than the bifrost,maybe a little taller, but not as wide, very solid , heavier than you'd expect

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