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Since I only listen to 16/44, satellite radio (via the PT) and vinyl, I don't have to adjust to the clicking noise.  Do all DACs do this with lower and higher bit rates?

 

I'm old and old fashioned.  I just listen to music.  I don't generally use music as accompaniment to what I'm otherwise engaged in so I don't like being reminded of what my equipment is doing.  It's there to serve the music and me.  Silently.

 

@ Joseph:  My DacIT is 6.5" square and 2.5" tall.


no, i've had other dacs that didn't pop when changing, i'm not technically savvy enough to know why it some dacs  do, and some don't

the popping i've experienced only happens when changing sampling rates, not in between individual tracks, so for me, its not like it clicks all the time

That's good that it doesn't click all the time.:smile:

post #14492 of 24623
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What is this "BITFROST" device?confused_face(1).gif

Its a D/A Converter.

 

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I personally love the 'click' of my Bifrost.  It tells me it's adjusting to the sample rate, and also tells me when Spotify isn't giving me 320.

I really don't mind the relay opening/closing while reading the initial info, but it does it between tracks also, and it continuously openes/closes when paused, until I press play/stop, so if I want pause to stop listening for a few minutes to do something the relay is going crazy the entire time. It is quite loud and very annoying.

 

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my wadia clicks when changing tracks, and its usb, doesn't bother me at all, now it doesn't click on mute, but anytime signal changes, it clicks

i've had the dacit too, it is very good, but i had a problem with it having drop outs when listening through jriver at anything over 16/44

and i never had that with the bifrost

Thats whats killing me…when its on mute/pause.

 

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more square than the bifrost,maybe a little taller, but not as wide, very solid , heavier than you'd expect

I figured the measurements in the description (on Amazon) where 100% wrong after seeing the photos and the weight of the unit. 

 

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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post
 

Since I only listen to 16/44, satellite radio (via the PT) and vinyl, I don't have to adjust to the clicking noise.  Do all DACs do this with lower and higher bit rates?

 

I'm old and old fashioned.  I just listen to music.  I don't generally use music as accompaniment to what I'm otherwise engaged in so I don't like being reminded of what my equipment is doing.  It's there to serve the music and me.  Silently.

 

@ Joseph:  My DacIT is 6.5" square and 2.5" tall.

Tank you for the dimensions.

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joseph, are the tracks of different sampling rates ? or the same recording all tracks the same bit rate ?

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joseph, are the tracks of different sampling rates ? or the same recording all tracks the same bit rate ?

Yes, there all the same bit-rate 16/44, I'm listening to original Cd's, thats why I don't understand why the DAC is re-reading the bit-rate after the initial reading in-between tracks.

I contacted Schiit and told them about the muting relay continuously going nuts while the Cd is paused, and Jason responded…"some Cd players do this" and thats all he said. :confused:

That made no sense to me at all! Why would the muting relay go crazy while on pause…I don't think this is correct, nor is that a thorough answer.

Jay, when you put the USB option in your Bitfrost, is there a cut out on the back panel for the USB port?

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Yes, there all the same bit-rate 16/44, I'm listening to original Cd's, thats why I don't understand why the DAC is re-reading the bit-rate after the initial reading in-between tracks.

I contacted Schiit and told them about the muting relay continuously going nuts while the Cd is paused, and Jason responded…"some Cd players do this" and thats all he said. :confused:

That made no sense to me at all! Why would the muting relay go crazy while on pause…I don't think this is correct, nor is that a thorough answer.

Jay, when you put the USB option in your Bitfrost, is there a cut out on the back panel for the USB port?


yep, and its a straight plug in , just have to be very careful with the input selection lights, sometimes they'll get out of alignment, that happened to me on my first time opening up the bifrost, , some very long needle nose pliers came in handy

 

 

jason is know for giving "very brief" answers, , and i could see the cd player having something to do with it, they way the signal leaves the player some way

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yep, and its a straight plug in , just have to be very careful with the input selection lights, sometimes they'll get out of alignment, that happened to me on my first time opening up the bifrost, , some very long needle nose pliers came in handy

 

 

jason is know for giving "very brief" answers, , and i could see the cd player having something to do with it, they way the signal leaves the player some way

Thanks for the info. I'll hang in a couple of days before I make any decision. Tonight I'm going to listen from my MBP's library with the optical  cable and see what the Bitfrost does when I use the pause button.

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Thanks for the info. I'll hang in a couple of days before I make any decision. Tonight I'm going to listen from my MBP's library with the optical  cable and see what the Bitfrost does when I use the pause button.


good luck and keep us posted

the gen 2 usb is very good by the way

post #14498 of 24623
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good luck and keep us posted

the gen 2 usb is very good by the way

I will, thank you!

post #14499 of 24623
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

 

I really don't mind the relay opening/closing while reading the initial info, but it does it between tracks also, and it continuously openes/closes when paused, until I press play/stop, so if I want pause to stop listening for a few minutes to do something the relay is going crazy the entire time. It is quite loud and very annoying.

 

Thats whats killing me…when its on mute/pause.

 

 

That sounds like there is something seriously wrong with the unit.  I might be able to email SCHIT or even PM Jason Stoddard- he's a regular on Head-Fi

 

edit: I didn't see your post above.  I would send it back, and try another unit.  It could be the CD player if it re-sets on pause.  If that's the case, try another source, if possible.

 

Good luck


Edited by swspiers - 5/6/14 at 12:27pm
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That sounds like there is something seriously wrong with the unit.  I might be able to email SCHIT or even PM Jason Stoddard- he's a regular on Head-Fi

 

edit: I didn't see your post above.  I would send it back, and try another unit.  It could be the CD player if it re-sets on pause.  If that's the case, try another source, if possible.

 

Good luck

I don't quite buy the answer I got from Schiit about it being my Cd player. When I use my 20+ year old Meridian the indicator light never lost the signal on pause with the same Cd player, so it doesn't re-set on pause. When I tell you this relay is going crazy, I really mean it. I'm going to hook up the Bitfrost to my MBP tonight with the optical cable ( I didn't order it with the USB), and see what happens when I pause the music from the MBP. Thanks for the luck.:beerchug: 

And I do agree with you…it sounds like theres something seriously wrong with the unit.


Edited by joseph69 - 5/6/14 at 12:48pm
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I should have phrased my comment about the Meridian, by saying once the signal was "locked", it never unlocked between tracks/skip/back/pause. It seems the Bitfrost is loosing the signal, and I know its not my Cd players signal.

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My wife just informed me that in no uncertain terms, I will not be buying any new headphones for a while...

post #14503 of 24623
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I should have phrased my comment about the Meridian, by saying once the signal was "locked", it never unlocked between tracks/skip/back/pause. It seems the Bitfrost is loosing the signal, and I know its not my Cd players signal.


can you return it ? have them check it ?

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Hey guys, curiosity here, but I'm thinking about upgrading 325is to a PS500, or possibly getting a closed back phone to complement it... I have seen a fair number of reviews comparing the two, but something hat doesn't seem to be addressed is if the PS500 is superior to the 325 in detail and technical ability. I understand it's different, but is the upgrade really worth more, or is expanding the stable worth more? Happy to hear any opinions...
post #14505 of 24623
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

Hey guys, curiosity here, but I'm thinking about upgrading 325is to a PS500, or possibly getting a closed back phone to complement it... I have seen a fair number of reviews comparing the two, but something hat doesn't seem to be addressed is if the PS500 is superior to the 325 in detail and technical ability. I understand it's different, but is the upgrade really worth more, or is expanding the stable worth more? Happy to hear any opinions...


Well you are asking for opinion and so you can have mine, I wouldn't upgrade to a PS500. Unless you really love bass. What is it you are looking for specifically in you new phone. The two detail kings in the Grado line up are the two 1000's the GS and PS. Honestly though I think you may be looking at a Planar or Stax phone.

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