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Originally Posted by Doorbell View Post

Got my first set of Grados weekend, the Sr60i. Right out the box, they sounded harsh but after a couple of hours of burn in, they sound pretty damn good. My only complaint is that they feel fragile. I keep thinking I'm about to break them.
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Congratulations! There not fragile, they just feel this way due too the weight of them…just take care of them, and try not too let the cups rotate 360 degrees, and they'll be fine, enjoy them!

 

this...(the biggest mistake i made...ruined my SR80i and will ruin my SR325is)

 - if u can, exchange the gimbals with something which doesn't rotate

 

and look whether your gimbals are properly glued - sometimes they aren't

 

...anyway as you live in the US, it is easy for you to request spare parts.

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Originally Posted by TheDreamthinker View Post

this...(the biggest mistake i made...ruined my SR80i and will ruin my SR325is)
 - if u can, exchange the gimbals with something which doesn't rotate

and look whether your gimbals are properly glued - sometimes they aren't

...anyway as you live in the US, it is easy for you to request spare parts.

I don't understand how to "ruin" Grados by rotating the cups 360. If one gets turned around a time or two, I can see the "V" twisting and turn it back before wearing.
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post

I don't understand how to "ruin" Grados by rotating the cups 360. If one gets turned around a time or two, I can see the "V" twisting and turn it back before wearing.

The two(or more) wires within the black rubber cable will twist/untwist in ways the universe can't quite grasp.

I managed to undo this damage by massaging the cable on my PS1000, and my RS1 gladly doesn't have this (yet)
post #14449 of 27680

My old set of 225's lasted a very long time but the cable did eventually go bad and I had to send them in to be recabled (they replaced the drivers too). It was at least 8 years before that happened though. Only costs like $45, which is a lot less than a set of cables for my HD600's cost and they did all the work.

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Thanks for all the info everybody.
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

My old set of 225's lasted a very long time but the cable did eventually go bad and I had to send them in to be recabled (they replaced the drivers too). It was at least 8 years before that happened though. Only costs like $45, which is a lot less than a set of cables for my HD600's cost and they did all the work.

Really cheap for a driver and cable replacement (almost the entire headphone).

My SR80i cable broke after 2 years of use.
I mainly use headphones before i fall asleep and then fall asleep with them on (VERY bad habit). That is NOT recommended, especially with Grados.
I try to avoid doing that now or only use the SR80i for that purpose.
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I received the Bitfrost Uber this morning! I can't wait too listen to it tonight, I hope I hear a nice difference initially and after some burn-in!

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Congrats! The BF Uber is superb but does take a long time to break in and smooth out.  Your patience will be rewarded.

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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I received the Bitfrost Uber this morning! I can't wait too listen to it tonight, I hope I hear a nice difference initially and after some burn-in!

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Thank you! I have plenty of patience too wait for great sound, as I'm still waiting for the PS1Ki's to burn-in also. Thanks.

BTW, Ive left my Meridian 203 DAC powered on for almost 25yrs with no issues at all. Do you leave your Bitfrost powered on all the time?

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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I received the Bitfrost Uber this morning! I can't wait too listen to it tonight, I hope I hear a nice difference initially and after some burn-in!


can't wait to hear about it joseph

post #14456 of 27680

Well Joseph add this to your dac information database. I ordered a super fancy USB cable, gold plated, blessed by the pope and dabbed with at least 1/2 oz of holy water. I tried it this evening, first of all I did hear a difference which shocked me as I was one of those who didn't think USB cables would change much, but...I like the sound of my $6.99 Blue Jeans Special better. The odd thing is the levels seem to be higher (louder) with my original cable, which may account for why I think it sounds better, but nothing accounts for why it should be louder. Bass seems tighter and transients a lot snappier with my cheapo cable. I think I am done with cable upgrades for a while. Spend a couple hundred dollars on 10 cables just to find that one magic bullet...no thanks. But..now I have one heck of a printer cable..gold plated, blessed by the pope...

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USB cables just transmits digital data guys.. It's always the same 0's and 1's. - I'm not getting in any discussion, just saying =)
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People really underestimate the power of psychoacoustics. Many really want to believe that they can't be fooled by psychoacoustics too but it's really hard. I know I fall victim to it all the time.
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I took a class about psychoacoustics earlier this year, and it is fascinating how our mind can fool us!  For example, there have been studies with professional wine tasters: they couldn't tell the difference between white and red wines.  They could tell they were different, but they couldn't indicate with any higher accuracy than the average person which was which.  Even with high-end cables, many people can tell differences, but couldn't say which they really liked more.  Interesting stuff.

 

And concerning the comment about waiting for burn-in time, I have had my SR325is, and I feel they are still burning in a bit.  Might be my ears getting adjusted, but I played around with EQ some, and it seems they are getting a little less hard/harsh in the treble.  These are deff cans for the long haul though!

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If you want to experience burn-in, listen to your music for 10 mins with no EQ then repeat with the treble boosted 10dB. It will be uncomfortable at first but gradually the effect will lesson (although it may never sound good). Now return to flat EQ and repeat the same 10 minutes of music and you'll immediately notice how muffled your music sounds. By the time 10 mins is up it will sound normal again.

IME burn-in is all in the brain.
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