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post #14416 of 27022

A good Sunday morning to everyone.

 

post #14417 of 27022

oh i do love some dire straits !! a threefer !

 

 

 

post #14418 of 27022

^^ +1 ^^

 

Going to watch now!

post #14419 of 27022

mark knopfler at royal albery hall, nice sound !

 

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i know a lot of you are fans of Joe, but this is exactly how not to do a Tom Waits cover.

post #14421 of 27022
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post
 

i know a lot of you are fans of Joe, but this is exactly how not to do a Tom Waits cover.


I actually love this version of Jockey Full Of Bourbon....Joe does many versions....this is one of my favs, personally  :D

post #14422 of 27022

it just lacks the swing, over-produced and the melody drives me crazy. Sounds like a "lawyer blues" band at an open mic night. It just doesn't pay tribute to the original at all, and it doesn't sound like anything Tom would even listen to.

post #14423 of 27022

not the same song, but this is how you do Tom Waits covers, in my opinion of course...still true to the original but still adding your own touch without watering it down.

 

 

one of my favorite covers..i could listen to this all day

 

post #14424 of 27022
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post
 

it just lacks the swing, over-produced and the melody drives me crazy. Sounds like a "lawyer blues" band at an open mic night. It just doesn't pay tribute to the original at all, and it doesn't sound like anything Tom would even listen to.


Well, maybe Tom would not listen to it....I do not know and no there is not a small man with a hellish voice singing it, and I mean that as a compliment and not a negative.  I love Tom Waits.

 

That being said, I really think that anytime somebody does a cover of somebody's song, that in itself is paying tribute to that artist, most definitely.

post #14425 of 27022
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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post
 

 

This is what I've been able to work out over the years:

 

  1. The drivers all share the same basic design (right up to the the RS1i), but they are sorted for quality (called 'binning' in manufacturing terms) and are more closely matched as you go up the product line. The best, most closely match drivers end up in RS1is, next best in RS2is, and so-on.
  2. Various models also have the diaphragm treated to tweak the sound (Grado call this 'de-stressing') and it probably involves coating the diaphragm with some substance to vary its surface properties somehow (e.g. to stiffen it). I think this is a pretty common technique for headphone manufacturers to improve/tweak their drivers - I suspect Sennheiser did something similar to the HD600 driver to produce the HD650.
  3. The higher end models also have some rubber/tar-like compound bonded to the rear of the magnet plate to mass-load the driver, which improves the bass (you can do this yourself - search for 'blue-tak mod').
  4. Better cables/voice-coil wiring as you progress through the models.
  5. Higher models have better air-flow through the rear earcup screens, which improves soundstage.
  6. And last, but not least, we have the different earcup enclosure materials - plastic, aluminium, wood - which may/may not flavour the sound.

 

The basic sound is essentially the same between all the models (ignoring the PS500/GS1000i/PS1000, which have further modification to increase the bass) but they do all sound different. Sometimes the difference is pretty subtle, but it's there.

 

What's great is that you can buy an SR80i and have an amazing headphone for relatively little money. If you like the sound, you can buy one of the higher up models and know you're going to get something that has the same basic signature but sounds better (and with a more luxurious build, of course)

 

I heard that some of the higher models have holes punched in the felt around the drivers (a common mod for some). Not sure which models though, and how many holes...ever seen that?

post #14426 of 27022
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Originally Posted by fleasbaby View Post

I heard that some of the higher models have holes punched in the felt around the drivers (a common mod for some). Not sure which models though, and how many holes...ever seen that?

My RS1 classic has holes, i believe 3, and my PS1000 has 4 holes. My RS2 classic had none.
post #14427 of 27022
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post


My RS1 classic has holes, i believe 3, and my PS1000 has 4 holes. My RS2 classic had none.

Have you taken your PS1K's apart?

Or did you see the holes through the ear cups?

post #14428 of 27022
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post
 

i know a lot of you are fans of Joe, but this is exactly how not to do a Tom Waits cover.


I don't think anybody can do a Tom Waits cover....

post #14429 of 27022
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Originally Posted by fleasbaby View Post

I heard that some of the higher models have holes punched in the felt around the drivers (a common mod for some). Not sure which models though, and how many holes...ever seen that?

PS500, GS1000i & PS1000 all have holes, which give them the extra bass.

I wasn't aware that any of the other models had driver holes ...
post #14430 of 27022
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

Music for 18 musicians is so amazing. More people need to have it (and terry Riley's "in C")

Uh...Steve Reich and Philip Glass

I am building a minimalist music library...
Drumming is also great.
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