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Originally Posted by elmoe View Post
 

 

Interesting read, out of curiosity what kind of EQ are you using?


At the moment I am simply using the Asus DGX soundcard controller, its a 10 band EQ.  At first all the EQs  sounded a bit wobbly and I presumed that it wasn't as powerful as an EQ as my last one, before I upgraded my Hard Disk to SSD - I had used EasyQ over JR Media Center.

 

Then I reset the levels to default - the sub volume was re-set at 75 percent.  This removed the wobble effect, and it seems very transparent to me.  The software seems to have built in anti-clipping and setting the sub-volume at 100 percent kicks in the clipping protection - EQ or not...no wonder I thought this whole soundcard sounded a bit wonky.  It's good now.

 

With computer EQ, it seems vital to lower the gain in order to avoid digital clipping.  I only have the LCD2s - but I am already getting an understanding of why the LCD-X and LCD-XC is tuned the way it is - now knowing the weakness of my LCD2 planar.  With the LCD-XC brightness could only be created the way it is without entering the treblezone issues...but I can say, the ortho drivers have no weaknesses all through the soundspectrum up 4khz in my sliders...sound stage is always wide and image is always sharp here.  When you make a peak past 4khz and then listen...the soundstage shrinks dramatically and wobbles around a lot - indicating an erratic treble response.  Otherwise without EQ - the planars set the treble as supplementary to the midrange and therefore all the treble flaws are masked.

 

I previously only used EQ as a diagnostic tool.  Now using it as it suits my listening volume and as a means to alter the signature whenever I feel like it - adds a whole new dimension of musical enjoyment.  If I had only one headphone and had available to me a high quality EQ at all times, it would be the LCD2s...I can tune it to to sound like better versions of HD650, K701 and HF2 in sheer refinement, lower distortion and outright speed.  I cannot tune the treble to match the D7000s or HD800s - but both these cans have annoying treble peaks to my ears anyway.

 

However this being said - without an EQ...the Grado HF2 is extremely versatile as a low level can...suiting everything with only an adjustment in the low level volume to compensate for recording types.  I don't often get obsessed with a can...but like the LCD2 and the HD650 before that...lately my mind is thinking only of my Grado HF2s and when can I get some new pads on it?

 

I am addicted to the HF2 Grado sound and will wait till I get the SR60s before I can say for sure if I am becoming addicted to the Grado sound.  6 years into my headphone journey...and all this time people rave about Grados and I'm thinking these people are nuts, because obviously the graphs show they are wonky.  I've had these HF2s for three years and knew I liked them over my D7000s...but not until I understand that it is a low listening level can recently that I just love them.  What is it about the HF2 that it can twang the uppermids like only a tube amp can? 

post #12497 of 27794

Hmmmmm...stumbling upon this thread makes me wanna bring out my SR225i's out of the box and listen to them at length again....maybe wel see how it sounds with the C&C BH amp!

post #12498 of 27794
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

Enjoyed reading that, nice post! 

 

Yeah I couldn't live without a little EQ on some hp's. Its ideal for personalizing. Our hearing is different person to person, so being able to pinpoint the freqs that cause annoyance and amending these for taste can be a godsend. Especially if you really like a headphone apart from maybe one aspect of its treble for instance - where no change of amp will help. 

 

 

If I could recommend the Latest foobar 31 bar equalizer. Its very good. 


Yeah, many people think EQ is the devils work :veryevil: 

 

A little EQ can go a long way for certain phones.......I just recently purchased a HD650 and I added just a touch to the high end....they still sound dark....but still better to my ears than stock.

post #12499 of 27794
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


Yeah, many people think EQ is the devils work :veryevil: 

 

A little EQ can go a long way for certain phones.......I just recently purchased a HD650 and I added just a touch to the high end....they still sound dark....but still better to my ears than stock.

Its the way forward bud a tell ye!! :)

post #12500 of 27794
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


Yeah, many people think EQ is the devils work :veryevil: 

 

A little EQ can go a long way for certain phones.......I just recently purchased a HD650 and I added just a touch to the high end....they still sound dark....but still better to my ears than stock.

 

I agree, EQing did wonders on my 325is and especially on my SA5000s. I use a foobar graphic equalizer DSP, but it is kind of annoying having to go into the menu to open it up everytime and am starting to wonder if a decent hardware equalizer would be worth putting some money into... Any thoughts from anyone who owns/has tried one?

post #12501 of 27794
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


Yeah, many people think EQ is the devils work :veryevil: 

 

A little EQ can go a long way for certain phones.......I just recently purchased a HD650 and I added just a touch to the high end....they still sound dark....but still better to my ears than stock.

 

For me, the HD650s are a neutralish can...if you have the power they sound tonally correct to me at reference level.

 

I use this curve for my HD650s and LCD2s at low level.

 

 

Boosting anything past 4khz here only exposes weaknesses in treble.  Stopping at 4khz adds a bit better detail and brightness in the mids when listening softly.

post #12502 of 27794
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

For me, the HD650s are a neutralish can...if you have the power they sound tonally correct to me at reference level.

 

I use this curve for my HD650s and LCD2s at low level.

 

 

Boosting anything past 4khz here only exposes weaknesses in treble.  Stopping at 4khz adds a bit better detail and brightness in the mids when listening softly.


I agree....I only adjust 2K   :smile: ......also...everyone hears frequencies different.


Edited by whirlwind - 3/2/14 at 4:13am
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Especially at low volumes, neutral does not exist below reference.  Anyway it's been interesting trying to figure out what works for me at very low listening levels...funnily enough, I have stated in the past that everything starts sounding neutral to me after long term listening.  It seems to me now at these lower levels the brain starts to make sense of everything on its own accord.

post #12504 of 27794

suggested listening, aretha franklin, live at the fillmore !! (hdtracks has it in 24/96, love it!)

 

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Well the journey towards the RS1i starts tonight. I just put my 225i up for sale. Once they sell I am going to order the RS1i and then depending on how much I like them the 325is may follow or I might keep them. Stay tuned.

post #12506 of 27794
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

Well the journey towards the RS1i starts tonight. I just put my 225i up for sale. Once they sell I am going to order the RS1i and then depending on how much I like them the 325is may follow or I might keep them. Stay tuned.

Why wouldn't you go for the 325s first? If you get the RS1s, trying the 325s afterwards may seem like a step back rather then an improvement...

post #12507 of 27794
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Originally Posted by JoeDoe View Post
 

Why wouldn't you go for the 325s first? If you get the RS1s, trying the 325s afterwards may seem like a step back rather then an improvement...


I hope it is a step back, the point I am trying to reach is one headphone for everything. I hope the RS1i is that headphone.

post #12508 of 27794
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 


I hope it is a step back, the point I am trying to reach is one headphone for everything. I hope the RS1i is that headphone.

Gotcha. Well, I certainly find my RS1 getting 90% of the headtime when I'm home. It's a fantastic can!

 

What are you using as an amp?

post #12509 of 27794

I can see the RS1i as an only headphone with the right AMP/DAC combo. It is a wonderful headphone.  Let us know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Well the journey towards the RS1i starts tonight. I just put my 225i up for sale. Once they sell I am going to order the RS1i and then depending on how much I like them the 325is may follow or I might keep them. Stay tuned.

post #12510 of 27794
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

I woodied my sr80 and did not hear a huge difference. Maybe and I mean maybe a little bassier.

what wood did you use 

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