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post #12031 of 26164

Psyched to report that my turbulent labs manta headband is on its way. I'm in the minority that I don't find the stock headband to be noticeably uncomfortable, but I plan on having my PS500s for awhile so I figured I'd dress it up a bit. 

post #12032 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey all, need some help here.. although I probably already know the answer..

I'm a few days from my 30 day exchange on the PS500. I've really run them through the paces, burn in, tons of listening and although I do love them, I'm finding them too dark and intimate.  I'm missing the treble sparkle/soundstage and air of the HD800.  Obviously, I don't expect nearly the same but the PS500 seems like it doesn't give me any. So, looking to exchange and move to the RS1i.

 

I've been doing some research over the last hour and it seems like there is a soundstage/detail and the treble is up there.  Looking at the HeadRoom graphs, they're much more treble happy than the HD800 with some wild peaks and I'm somewhat worried about that.  On the other hand, it's be said that they're pretty smooth on top.  Although the GS1000i treble, from the graphs, seem top be flatter, I don't went to invest that much more money.

Is there a general consensus that the treble is smooth on the RS1i? Ear piercing treble is more of a logo for me than the PS500 being too dark.

 

Not too sure what to do.. close my eyes, cross my fingers and just jump in..


i'm don't really understand graphs and all very well, but i can tell you in don't find the treble to bright, i like the detail it provides

post #12033 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey all, need some help here.. although I probably already know the answer..

I'm a few days from my 30 day exchange on the PS500. I've really run them through the paces, burn in, tons of listening and although I do love them, I'm finding them too dark and intimate.  I'm missing the treble sparkle/soundstage and air of the HD800.  Obviously, I don't expect nearly the same but the PS500 seems like it doesn't give me any. So, looking to exchange and move to the RS1i.

 

I've been doing some research over the last hour and it seems like there is a soundstage/detail and the treble is up there.  Looking at the HeadRoom graphs, they're much more treble happy than the HD800 with some wild peaks and I'm somewhat worried about that.  On the other hand, it's be said that they're pretty smooth on top.  Although the GS1000i treble, from the graphs, seem top be flatter, I don't went to invest that much more money.

Is there a general consensus that the treble is smooth on the RS1i? Ear piercing treble is more of a logo for me than the PS500 being too dark.

 

Not too sure what to do.. close my eyes, cross my fingers and just jump in..

When I first got the RS1i's, I did notice at moderate/higher volume I thought I was going to have a problem listening to these headphones…but I would guess I have over 50+ hrs on them now , and there is no issue at all with the higher frequencies. They are very fufilling headphones, definitely! My next purchase is the GS1i's, just waiting for a re-stock, and I'm hoping I'm going to love these as much as the RS1i's, and the only way for me to tell is to hear them for myself, never mind graphs or what other people hear, its all about what you/I like to hear, so I'll soon find out! 

post #12034 of 26164

Thanks guys.. just went through the entire RS1i thread and I think that they're worth a serious audition. I totally ignored them when I auditioned the PS500.  The lack of any soundstage and the darkness is starting to drive me crazy. The funny thing is that I do like the PS500's straight out of my older 4G iPod Classic. I've got until the 14th to exchange and will give the RS1i's an audition.  BTW - the graph thing - it's just a starting point.

 

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post #12035 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey all, need some help here.. although I probably already know the answer..

I'm a few days from my 30 day exchange on the PS500. I've really run them through the paces, burn in, tons of listening and although I do love them, I'm finding them too dark and intimate.  I'm missing the treble sparkle/soundstage and air of the HD800.  Obviously, I don't expect nearly the same but the PS500 seems like it doesn't give me any. So, looking to exchange and move to the RS1i.

 

I've been doing some research over the last hour and it seems like there is a soundstage/detail and the treble is up there.  Looking at the HeadRoom graphs, they're much more treble happy than the HD800 with some wild peaks and I'm somewhat worried about that.  On the other hand, it's be said that they're pretty smooth on top.  Although the GS1000i treble, from the graphs, seem top be flatter, I don't went to invest that much more money.

Is there a general consensus that the treble is smooth on the RS1i? Ear piercing treble is more of a logo for me than the PS500 being too dark.

 

Not too sure what to do.. close my eyes, cross my fingers and just jump in..


I have never heard the PS500, however it is on my short list of headphones that I want.

 

It could possibly be that the Grado sound is not what you are looking for, most Grado's have a bit of an elevated high end .

 

With that being said, the RS1 seems to be a tad warmer , and and a tad tamer in the high end, and with the right amp {tubes}......it seems that any rough edges that were on the high end are gone, and you are just left with that great Grado sound ....minus the extended treble....well....at least for the most part.

post #12036 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey all, need some help here.. although I probably already know the answer..

I'm a few days from my 30 day exchange on the PS500. I've really run them through the paces, burn in, tons of listening and although I do love them, I'm finding them too dark and intimate.  I'm missing the treble sparkle/soundstage and air of the HD800.  Obviously, I don't expect nearly the same but the PS500 seems like it doesn't give me any. So, looking to exchange and move to the RS1i.

 

I've been doing some research over the last hour and it seems like there is a soundstage/detail and the treble is up there.  Looking at the HeadRoom graphs, they're much more treble happy than the HD800 with some wild peaks and I'm somewhat worried about that.  On the other hand, it's be said that they're pretty smooth on top.  Although the GS1000i treble, from the graphs, seem top be flatter, I don't went to invest that much more money.

Is there a general consensus that the treble is smooth on the RS1i? Ear piercing treble is more of a logo for me than the PS500 being too dark.

 

Not too sure what to do.. close my eyes, cross my fingers and just jump in..

 

The RS1i has some peaks and dips in the high frequencies and upper mids. it manifests itself as a bit of shoutiness for female singers. that's much more noticeable to me than the higher treble peaks. But this is also what gives it that Grado magic. singers and guitars have this very palpable sense of being there with you. 

 

GS1000 has really flat mids but the treble is comparably much hotter (fewer peaks but the one that's there is a doozy) and I could hear some issues with it for things like cymbals but not for vocals. (Since the mids are flat, you want to turn up the volume with the GS1000 but then the treble hits you harder and it can be a bit much for some people)

 

If you want the classic Grado experience, try the RS1i. 

 

I would skip the GS1000 as you already have the HD800. Or, at least, give it a try later on if you can find one used for under $600. 

post #12037 of 26164
I agree with LCFiner above...based on the graphs my rs1 shouldn't be much different from my 80's....but they are, and the treble is ridiculous smooth and somewhat darker than the 80's. It's the smoothness (while retaining the detail) that has made me fall in love with the rs1's.
post #12038 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey all, need some help here.. although I probably already know the answer..

I'm a few days from my 30 day exchange on the PS500. I've really run them through the paces, burn in, tons of listening and although I do love them, I'm finding them too dark and intimate.  I'm missing the treble sparkle/soundstage and air of the HD800.  Obviously, I don't expect nearly the same but the PS500 seems like it doesn't give me any. So, looking to exchange and move to the RS1i.

 

I've been doing some research over the last hour and it seems like there is a soundstage/detail and the treble is up there.  Looking at the HeadRoom graphs, they're much more treble happy than the HD800 with some wild peaks and I'm somewhat worried about that.  On the other hand, it's be said that they're pretty smooth on top.  Although the GS1000i treble, from the graphs, seem top be flatter, I don't went to invest that much more money.

Is there a general consensus that the treble is smooth on the RS1i? Ear piercing treble is more of a logo for me than the PS500 being too dark.

 

Not too sure what to do.. close my eyes, cross my fingers and just jump in..

The RS1i has very different treble over the HD800. It is much more 'shouty' in the upper mids. The RS1i has smooth treble in comparison to other Grado's but it won't compete with the HD800 in regards to finesse. I would still recommend it as a nice compliment. But they are very different sound sigs. 

 

If you are going to get a Grado I would get a Grado. And the RS1 is the ultimate Grado!   

post #12039 of 26164

Thanks all!! Looks like the RS1 it is.  I'm plannin on exchanging the PS500 for the RS1i tomorrow. Will let you know how it works out in a couple of days.

post #12040 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Thanks all!! Looks like the RS1 it is.  I'm plannin on exchanging the PS500 for the RS1i tomorrow. Will let you know how it works out in a couple of days.

That is what I would do every time!

post #12041 of 26164
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

Thanks all!! Looks like the RS1 it is.  I'm plannin on exchanging the PS500 for the RS1i tomorrow. Will let you know how it works out in a couple of days.

Good call!
post #12042 of 26164
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

The RS1i has some peaks and dips in the high frequencies and upper mids. it manifests itself as a bit of shoutiness for female singers. that's much more noticeable to me than the higher treble peaks.
YES! +1 on this!

The RS1i is not extremely bright in high frequencies (as is endlessly babbled about). In fact, the top end is very natural, not unlike my Stax rig. Its "flaw" is a shouty upper midrange that can be irritating in a dynamic system with fast attack. Without a doubt it's still a keeper for me.
post #12043 of 26164

Gonna own/listen to my first Grado headphones tomorrow. The SR325is :)

Can't wait!

post #12044 of 26164
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Originally Posted by leadbythemelody View Post
 

Gonna own/listen to my first Grado headphones tomorrow. The SR325is :)

Can't wait!

Nice, congratulations the 325's are really nice headphones, hope you really enjoy them!

post #12045 of 26164

Thanks! Can't wait to listen to rock/metal with them! I've heard for years that Grado's are phenomenal with rock but never really tried them out.

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