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post #11356 of 18050

I have the 80i, 325is and the RS1i's, and although I've never heard the 225's, I would never part with the 325is's. Also I feel they are more comfortable than the 80' and the RS's…yes I understand they are heavier than these two models, but I find their weight to be very comfortable on my head. I leave my headphones with the drivers facing down when not in use, I'm starting to think the reason the 325's are so comfortable to me is because the weight of the aluminum cups may be flattening the (L) cushions a bit, and they are bit softer because of this, I don't know.

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Are there differences in cup size between the RS1i and RS2i?
And how would you guys compare the sound to the SR series? I have 125i's and I like how bright they are... are the RS brighter? Punchier bass? And i'm guessing the mids would be as lovely as ever...

 

I know this has been mentioned loads of times... but there's so much info and I've completely lost track :( 

post #11358 of 18050
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Originally Posted by SJWorne View Post
 

Are there differences in cup size between the RS1i and RS2i?
And how would you guys compare the sound to the SR series? I have 125i's and I like how bright they are... are the RS brighter? Punchier bass? And i'm guessing the mids would be as lovely as ever...

 

I know this has been mentioned loads of times... but there's so much info and I've completely lost track :( 

Their is a difference between the RS1i/2i cup size, I know the cups are deeper on the RS1i, but I don't know if they are larger in diameter (but I don't believe they are, I think all of the Grado drivers are the same diameter). I also like the brightness of my 80i's and though I wouldn't say that my RS1i's are bright, they are along the lines of the crisp, clear detail of the 80's, just more refined, where as my 325is's (I don't know why) do not have that brightness to them as you say, so they are a good compliment to the 80i's/RS1i's, they are totally different sounding than my 80i's/RS1i's, (though most would probably disagree on this statement).

post #11359 of 18050
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Originally Posted by SJWorne View Post
 

Are there differences in cup size between the RS1i and RS2i?

Yes, RS2 is same size/shape as the older 325 cups.

RS1 cups are larger. 

When the 325 first came out it was John Grados first premium can. This was before the RS1/2.

The existing models consisted of the expiring Joe Grado HP-1000 and the 1st generation plastic SR Series (SR100?200/300).

Joe came up with the 2nd generation SR Series, the SR125/225/325.

The SR125/225 had the same small body as the SR100/200/300.

The SR325 borrowed the larger cup size (and metal construction) from the HP-1000. 

The larger cups improved sound which is why Grado increased cups size in the SR"i" improvements.

When John developed the wood RS he started with the 325 cup size for the RS2 and settled on the RS1 cup size as the ultimate for those drivers.

post #11360 of 18050

Thanks guys :)

And Parbaked, that's interesting... I like knowing that sort of stuff! :)

post #11361 of 18050
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Thanks guys :)

And Parbaked, that's interesting... I like knowing that sort of stuff! :)


parbaked is in the know, about grado !

post #11362 of 18050

I know that most people here will have played with the pads and I'm looking for some advice. I love my SR225i's, they are my go-to phones for rock, but I have really weird ears (pointy at the sides, but not very tall) and they touch the driver casing when I'm using the bowls, making it quite painful to wear them for more than an hour. Would the TTVJ flats help?

post #11363 of 18050
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

Ask Turbulent to make you one in a natural finish.

Or take any Grado band to a leather shop and they can make you a custom replacement easy.

Interesting, Parbaked. I hadn't thought of that. Hope they can help me out. 

 

Thanks! 

post #11364 of 18050
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Originally Posted by ThickGlasses View Post
 

I know that most people here will have played with the pads and I'm looking for some advice. I love my SR225i's, they are my go-to phones for rock, but I have really weird ears (pointy at the sides, but not very tall) and they touch the driver casing when I'm using the bowls, making it quite painful to wear them for more than an hour. Would the TTVJ flats help?

The TTVJ flat pads will sit against your ears, but they create a strong bass, which can overwhelm the higher frequencies, and also narrow the soundstage IME. Maybe you should try  the (S) cushions stock or quarter modded, and see how you like the comfort and the sound.

post #11365 of 18050

I love my Grados so much. I have the SR-80 (the first "hi-fi" headphones I ever owned) and the SR-125 and I adore both of them. The Grado sound is just so warm and fun, especially for on-ears. I find these great for indie music, and often have found myself dozing off between (or even in) classes because I find them so relaxing. 

post #11366 of 18050
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

The TTVJ flat pads will sit against your ears, but they create a strong bass, which can overwhelm the higher frequencies, and also narrow the soundstage IME. Maybe you should try  the (S) cushions stock or quarter modded, and see how you like the comfort and the sound.

Would the HD414 pads work? I can't find a pair of official ones on Amazon.

post #11367 of 18050
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Their is a difference between the RS1i/2i cup size, I know the cups are deeper on the RS1i, but I don't know if they are larger in diameter (but I don't believe they are, I think all of the Grado drivers are the same diameter). 

RS1 cups are proportionally larger than RS2 (same proportions but larger) so they have a wider diameter - hence the need for the metal gimbal.

The plastic gimbal doesn't fit and it would require a new mould to make wider gimbals so they machined the new metal ones instead.

The 325/RS2 are already 'Frankenstein' looking and you wouldn't want proportionally deeper cups.

The size difference is small <10%.

The dimension of the inner opening, which holds the driver, is the same, so yes, the drivers are same size but  that doesn't impact cup width or volume.

 

When they came out with the slightly larger still GS/PS1K cans, they kept the width same as RS1 so same metal gimbals.


Edited by parbaked - 1/5/14 at 5:06pm
post #11368 of 18050
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Originally Posted by SJWorne View Post
 

Are there differences in cup size between the RS1i and RS2i?
And how would you guys compare the sound to the SR series? I have 125i's and I like how bright they are... are the RS brighter? Punchier bass? And i'm guessing the mids would be as lovely as ever...

 

I know this has been mentioned loads of times... but there's so much info and I've completely lost track :( 

IMO, the RS1 is not bright at all. In fact, I find them a little warm, very smooth, and quite refined. They give the feeling of sitting in a soft, dark brown leather sofa in front of a nice crackling fire...18 year old single malt in one hand, the other tapping to the beat of your favorite tune. Lights dim, lost in the music.

 

And yes, the mids are lovely. 

post #11369 of 18050
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Originally Posted by ThickGlasses View Post
 

Would the HD414 pads work? I can't find a pair of official ones on Amazon.

Yeah a lot of people use them, but I've never tried them myself.

Check B&H Photo or Crutchfield for the (S) cushions, they should be $10.00U.S.

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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

RS1 cups are proportionally larger than RS2 (same proportions but larger) so they have a wider diameter - hence the need for the metal gimbal.

The plastic gimbal doesn't fit and it would require a new mould to make wider gimbals so they machined the new metal ones instead.

The 325/RS2 are already 'Frankenstein' looking and you wouldn't want proportionally deeper cups.

The size difference is small <10%.

The dimension of the inner opening, which holds the driver, is the same, so yes, the drivers are same size but  that doesn't impact cup width or volume.

 

When they came out with the slightly larger still GS/PS1K cans, they kept the width same as RS1 so same metal gimbals.

Good info, thanks for the knowledge!

post #11370 of 18050
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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post
 

IMO, the RS1 is not bright at all. In fact, I find them a little warm, very smooth, and quite refined. They give the feeling of sitting in a soft, dark brown leather sofa in front of a nice crackling fire...18 year old single malt in one hand, the other tapping to the beat of your favorite tune. Lights dim, lost in the music.

 

And yes, the mids are lovely. 


That's a great analogy, but I have a different take on it.  I find the RS1's to be, well, boring compared to the 225i's.  The sense of 'being there' is lacking.  I really don't want to knock Grado, but I have to admit that so far I am underwhelmed by the set Jay is letting me try. 

 

It doesn't help that I have two other cans in the same price range that the RS1's are going up against.  And to be honest, I'm not sure any $600 headphone can trump the Alpha Dogs in my arsenal. But I did expect more in the RS1's, not less.

 

I hope to have a few more days to try them out.  Who knows- they may end up being my favorite can, but at this point I kinda doubt it.

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