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post #451 of 833
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002NZV7X4/ref=mp_s_a_2?qid=1298921138&sr=8-2

Kwkarth, this is what you use? I can DEFINITELY go for that if its worthwhile and is neutral. Thoughts?

Edit: hmm, its a dac/amp. I don't wanna spend extra on an amp portion I know I won't use.

Still looking...biggrin.gif
post #452 of 833
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The good news for me is that my Lyr is going to be here in time for the Seattle Meet on March 5th so hopefully I can test many DAC's and many amps and compare my MSII+. My current issue is similar to Mad Lust Envy as Im about to go from 1 am to 2 amps and only have one DAC. Im still glad I have the HRT because I got that so I could haul it along with my lap top and at home will mostly likely hang with the Lyr. But I need a clear upgrade for my listening room stationary setup with my WA2. Im gonna give that Music Hall a good look. DAC's aplenty these days, thats for sure. You can find a million different options. Ive wasted half my life reading a thread here on headfi rating quite a few of them in good detail. Im still not done lol. Oh, Kwkarth, what is your Music Hall tweak?

I did things to it that made audible differences, but didn't cost a lot in time or money.  

 

  1. rolled the tube to find the sound I was looking for.  Ended up with a GE smoked glass 6922, which was far superior to the stock tube it came with.
  2. treated all socketed connections internally, including dip sockets, tube socket, and internal cable headers with CAIG DeOxit D5 and then Pro Gold.
  3. changed out USB cables until I found the one that eliminated 100% of dropouts/audio glitches.  Ended up with MHDT USB cable.
  4. used good UP-OCC interconnects going to the amp from the DAC.

 

There are certainly more expensive tubes, USB cables, and interconnect cables and maybe better sounding ones too, but what I did, put me into a happy place I was looking for.  In the future I may explore circuit tweaks like the Burson clock, etc. to further improve performance, but for now, this gets the job done.
 

post #453 of 833
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002NZV7X4/ref=mp_s_a_2?qid=1298921138&sr=8-2

Kwkarth, this is what you use? I can DEFINITELY go for that if its worthwhile and is neutral. Thoughts?

Edit: hmm, its a dac/amp. I don't wanna spend extra on an amp portion I know I won't use.

Still looking...biggrin.gif

Yup...  The head amp inside isn't worth much, does not represent much of the total cost of the unit, so it's a convenient tool for quick monitoring, but I use my Asgard for the headamp.  If you're considering the MH, consider the 25.3
 

post #454 of 833
I just really need to be able to buy my DAC from Amazon though. =(

That or wait until I actually need the Lyr and save up more cash so I can buy a DAC somewhere else. The Lyr won't be necessary for me until I compliment my D7000 with a hard to drive open headphone...
post #455 of 833

On Amazon, they do carry the new version of the Music Hall, plus I have found a couple of other VERY decent desktop choices there; one for more, and one for less:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-dac25-3-Converter-Headphone/dp/B004FKCCCK/ref=sr_1_30?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298922834&sr=1-30

 

http://www.amazon.com/PS-AUDIO-DIGITAL-LINK-III/dp/B000Q7NGUS/ref=sr_1_31?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298922901&sr=1-31

 

http://www.amazon.com/Audiophile-Products-Spitfire-MkII-Bit/dp/B004K9BI4E/ref=sr_1_35?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298922834&sr=1-35

 

I can personally vouch for Audiophile Products, and recommend this highly with them:

http://www.amazon.com/Audiophile-Products-Supplier-Silver-Supply/dp/B0017JG9IU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298923100&sr=1-1

 

Plus you could upgrade any of these even further if you want to improve the USB audio out of your netbook (with another Supplier of course):

http://www.amazon.com/Audiophile-Products-Bravo-USB-DIF/dp/B004K8PJNQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298923100&sr=1-4

 

 

Much, much, much more here...

 

DAC's forever!

 

Good luck with your search tongue_smile.gif

post #456 of 833
Grokit, you are a god among men. I didn't know where to start, but these seems like very likely candidates.

Which of these is most neutral? biggrin.gif

Considered the best out of these?

The Music Hall 25.3... do I need to do all those tweaks kwkarth? I rather have something ready to kick ass out the gate.
post #457 of 833

You are very welcome.

 

On Audiogon, I picked up an old Bel Canto DAC2 and highly recommend it for the $400+ I paid, the clock in it is so good that the Bravo couldn't improve on even it's optical input so newer isn't necessarily better. There may be some tweaked Music Halls there too.

 

As far as neutral goes, everyone hears different so there will be many answers to that as you may already know from the comparison threads you have been reading. Some are more smooth, some offer uber-detail; I like to find the right balance between the two for the most musicality.

 

Personally I am also big fan of:

 

Bravo/Supplier > Matrix Mini-i

post #458 of 833

Ok, so not to completely destroy my wallet, I believe I'll 'start' with the Lyr for now, and if I feel the need to update my DAC, I will do so. The Lyr stays though. Might just wait for the Schiit DAC. Hopefully Fiio hurries up with the L7 LOD so I can use the E7's DAC only for now. XD

 

Thanks for all the input. I'm either very impulsive, or procrastinate. I happened to do both today, lol.

 

Probably order the Lyr in a few weeks. Thanks again guys. I'd go for one of those mega DACs grokit posted, but they're a bit overwhelming.

post #459 of 833
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You might want to snap this one up...last one...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-ph25-2-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B004FOCFU0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1

 


 



Doesn't have USB... kind of a necessity for me atm.

 

I'll play it safe for now. At least I know what to expect. I can also see what you guys think, as the Lyrs should arrive to a lot of people any day now.

 

My D7000 doesn't demand too much to begin with, so I'll take it easy until I know what I wanna get to compliment them with in the future. Definitely an open, hard to drive headphone to give me a reason to even have the Lyr, lol.

post #460 of 833
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Doesn't have USB... kind of a necessity for me atm.

 

I'll play it safe for now. At least I know what to expect. I can also see what you guys think, as the Lyrs should arrive to a lot of people any day now.

 

My D7000 doesn't demand too much to begin with, so I'll take it easy until I know what I wanna get to compliment them with in the future. Definitely an open, hard to drive headphone to give me a reason to even have the Lyr, lol.

My bad, it wasn't the 25.2 DAC, it was their dedicated headamp, which you definitely don't need.
 

post #461 of 833

I believe I'll be upgrading my DAC once Schiit's DAC is out. I'm a sucker for uniformity. biggrin.gif

post #462 of 833
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I believe I'll be upgrading my DAC once Schiit's DAC is out. I'm a sucker for uniformity. biggrin.gif


Not to mention Mike's talents.  I'm looking forward to their DAC products as well.  Now if that Lyr would only get here... ;-)

post #463 of 833

As a massive fan of the D7000 (I do like a a booming lower end), you think the HE-6 would satisfy me as an open backed substitute? I'd say the LCD2 would probably be more ideal, but I'm not a huge fan of warm/smooth headphones... at least not warmer than the D7000. I do hear the HE-6 has a ridiculous amount of bass extension, which sounds appealing.

post #464 of 833
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

As a massive fan of the D7000 (I do like a a booming lower end), you think the HE-6 would satisfy me as an open backed substitute? I'd say the LCD2 would probably be more ideal, but I'm not a huge fan of warm/smooth headphones... at least not warmer than the D7000. I do hear the HE-6 has a ridiculous amount of bass extension, which sounds appealing.



The LCD-2 has a more substantial bottom end, but more importantly, it certainly does not lack even one whit in high frequency detail with the setup I have, but it is never strident either, unless of course, the recording is too.  In true Head-Fi fashion though, you should buy both the HE-6 and the LCD-2.

 

You're hearing mid-bass bloat in your D7000, and neither of the planars have any mid bass bloat.

post #465 of 833
I got all excited to find 25 new posts this morning on the Lyr thread. Given it's recent release and quick postage within the US I thought that there may have been some initial impressions. But no luck. Can we please take upgrade discussions to the appropriate thread? Sorry to sound like a complainer but hanging out for a Lyr review. It is a shame that Jason didn't supply an early release model to 6 moons so that I would have something more to drool over. :-)
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