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post #196 of 833
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Hey there,

 

Sorry about lack of response on European retailers--all I can say is "working on it!" We're finishing up CE self-cert now, and should be able to announce some resellers in the first quarter. 

 

And yep, it'll have a 6.3mm-3.5mm converter, though it's definitely more industrial-quality than audiophile-approved. We include it as a convenience.

 

K1000s? I haven't had a chance to test Lyr with those cans, but the way it calculates out seems to say, "Yep, covered." I have to borrow a set and see how it does firsthand, though!

 


Jason,

 

What cans have you tested with the Lyr?  HD 650?  LCD-2?  HE-6?  Have you already listed some of this info and I haven't seen it?

post #197 of 833

 

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Just curious: how well would the Lyr power a set of K1000s?

 

The manufacturer has already responded, but let's work out the numbers on a cocktail napkin (your drink of choice):

IIRC the K1000 spec is 74dB/mWatt @ 120 ohms. This translates to 104dB/Watt. From their spec of the Lyr at 20V peak, that maps to a peak power of 3.33 Watts @ 120 ohms, and just under 2 Watts continuous. So you're looking at ~108dB peak SPL, and just under 107dB continuous. I've run a speaker rig with a very comparable peak SPL (25-55 Watts on 93dB/Watt speakers @ 8 feet). It's WAY more than enough for pop/rock recordings; these require very little headroom over average level. You can make your ears bleed if you like. It's OK for up to "loud-ish" volumes with very high dynamic range recordings. Though, I have encountered hard clipping with such a system when pushing a notoriously high dynamic range recording (Sheffield Labs Direct Disc Recording of Firebird Suite) into decidedly loud territory (that was a mistake; quickly rectified). I did notice an improvement in this system when moving to a higher power amp (250 Watts/ch), but it's also a higher quality amp; not just more power. Both were pure tube amps, which will have their distortion levels rise rapidly as the max rated power is approached (and exceeded).

 

With headphones I'd recommend lower levels than with speakers, to protect your hearing. That should buy you some headroom. So, as long as the Lyr sounds good right up to its rated power, then you should be fine to drive the K1000 with this amp. We'll have to assume that your source's output level and the Lyr's gain permit you to reach the amp's power output capacity at least at full volume throttle - double check this though; some of the very-low output MC cartridges make it hard to get enough gain downstream.

 

post #198 of 833

I'm excited about this product. It should marry perfectly with my LCD2s. Great price point too.

post #199 of 833

Subscribed. This could end the endless search for amps for a while and let the wallet breathe a bit 

post #200 of 833

x2. Isn't that always the near-impossible goal, though? I thought for the longest time that the Meier Corda Corcerto was one of the best amps for the LCD-2, which I want to buy eventually. Now I have to worry all over again that there is something better to try. Choices, choices!

 

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Subscribed. This could end the endless search for amps for a while and let the wallet breathe a bit 

post #201 of 833
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Subscribed. This could end the endless search for amps for a while and let the wallet breathe a bit 



Nonsense! Amps like this just encourage the creation of even less efficient headphones...

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Ummm that's why I said "for a while" 

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Subscribed. This could end the endless search for amps for a while and let the wallet breathe a bit 



Nonsense! Amps like this just encourage the creation of even less efficient headphones...

post #203 of 833

Who would make a headphone less efficient than the HiFiMan Planars?  It has thus far required speaker amps.

 

I'm obviously discounting the Electrostats that have an 'upside-down' (according to my understanding) power requirement and need their own ampzorz.

post #204 of 833

This Schiit should be able to handle HE-7 & 8, 9 might be much lower impedance and less efficient. But by then there would be mono-block Schiit headphone amps.
 

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Subscribed. This could end the endless search for amps for a while and let the wallet breathe a bit 



Nonsense! Amps like this just encourage the creation of even less efficient headphones...


Edited by wuwhere - 1/7/11 at 11:52pm
post #205 of 833

Complementary technology has a funny habit of pushing itself beyond its counterpart's limits, which spurs further development. I suspect half of it is for the joy of discovery/innovation, and the other half is backroom drawing board machismo.

post #206 of 833

So sooner or later someone will have the guts of a JH3 cut out and hooked to a 12 channel B22 as well as ortho 'phones powered by 250W class A monoblocks.

post #207 of 833

Please, lets not get to the point where electromagnetic radiation fries our brains!basshead.gifeek.gifblink.gif I don't think it is that much of an issue with today's non electrostatic headphones, but you guys are worrying me... How about we keep it to sorry for our your wallet and not sorry for your head.beerchug.gif

 

I would like to hear some headphones out of a monoblock though...

post #208 of 833

I think immtbiker has his HE-6 connected to Dared monoblocks.

post #209 of 833
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I think immtbiker has his HE-6 connected to Dared monoblocks.


Really? I don't imagine he would like to haul it to a meet.biggrin.gif
 

post #210 of 833

I'm waiting for our next meet to try the HE-6 on a couple Rotel RMB-100s (125w). I don't have a pre to control volume. The RB-1050 (70w) has gain pots and they sound great though awkward to balance the trims when changing volumes.

 

What does one gain by using something like an AN 300b/2A3 5th An. (besides wattage) or a Leben, larger soundstage, better 3-d imagery?

 

If I can get away with a Lyr and not feel hungry, I'm selling gear now.

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