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It would be a great deal if their upcoming DAC had balanced outputs.

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It would be a great deal if their upcoming DAC had balanced outputs.




 



+1 ... totally agree
post #168 of 833

I would love to see what you guys can draft up in a portable format.

 

Then I can bring my Schiit with me to the bathroom... while I play Angry Birds

 

Also, what shipping method do you use to ship internationally? (in my case, Canada)

post #169 of 833

 

 while I play Angry Birds

 

Nice!

 

 

I was also thinking about a portable POS.

post #170 of 833

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It would be a great deal if their upcoming DAC had balanced outputs.

I must've missed it - do we have confirmation of a DAC upcoming from Schiit?

It would make sense of course as Mike Moffat is a digital guru.
 

post #171 of 833

 

Yup, its in the Asgard thread.

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I would love to see what you guys can draft up in a portable format.

 

Then I can bring my Schiit with me to the bathroom... while I play Angry Birds

 

Also, what shipping method do you use to ship internationally? (in my case, Canada)


Ha! Good point! I'd never thought of that.

 

No current plans for anything portable, though.

 

I will say this: I am a big fan of balanced gear, when properly implemented (as well as planar magnetics.) The speaker rig is a Theta Gen V balanced to a passive balanced preamp to a Sumo Andromeda III, which is itself a balanced-output amplifier, to Eminent Technology LFT-IV speakers, which are kinda like giant orthodynamics. They're about as power-hungry, too. The 450W/4 ohm Andromeda III runs them to, ahem, reasonable listening levels. 

 

Note the "when properly implemented." Is the balanced gear simply converting the inputs to single-ended? Or is it using creating the differential signal with a separate gain stage after the main one? There are a bunch of ways to do it wrong. Real balanced gear is differential all the way through, without splitters and summers and other band-aids. This means (among other things) a more complex gain stage, 4-gang pots, and 4-pole input selectors. 

 

It's worth it, though--not just for the elimination of ground current effects, but for common-mode noise cancellation--very, very nice for headphones.

 

And, er, I realized I missed one question. The Lyr name? In Norse mythology, Lyr is Menglad's hall in Jotunheim (land of the giants.) It continues our "Norse places" idea.

 

 


Edited by Jason Stoddard - 1/1/11 at 1:48pm
post #173 of 833

I had forgotten about the 4 gang pot and such. They do bring up the cost significantly. I should have thought that through more throughly, being in the process of building a balanced amplifier myself. But as it is, an Asgard-style topology class A balanced amplifier would be really cool. With the right gain setup it could put gobs of power into pretty much any headphone with little to no ill effects, from Grados to orthos.

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I already love the asgard, a more powerful one would scare me... in a good way.

post #175 of 833

Jason, can we expect some schiit in Europe? Through European resellers?

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4. Balanced? Someday. Don't expect it to be inexpensive.


I don't think anyone expects you to give anything away, just keep offering US-made products with "good value" as you currently already do now.

A quality and powerful balanced amplifier that would drive just about anything (like the Lyr) could potentially be very popular. 

I'd pay $1K+ for such a beast from Schiit.  Compared to competitive offerings, that seems like a very good value to me.


X2. You gotta keep the value coming from the US. If you raise the bar at a price point, you will almost always have customers. 

 

Jason, thanks for your commentary on balanced sound. I will be waiting.

post #177 of 833

Does anybody have a link to the posts on the DAC?  For some reason I can't find the Valhalla thread.

post #178 of 833

 

Heres a link on the Asgard thread with Jason commenting on the upcoming DAC.

 

 

Check the last page for the comments. 

post #179 of 833

Jason, maybe you could come up to the NorCal meet and bring a prototype of the Lyr? smile.gif You would have to ask the organizer CEE TEE though. 

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Jason, maybe you could come up to the NorCal meet and bring a prototype of the Lyr? smile.gif You would have to ask the organizer CEE TEE though. 

 

Yes, that would make the NorCal meet a must attend !

 

 

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