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Shure SRH750DJ: Where's the bass that everyone is talking about? (Direct comparison to M50's bass)

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

All-

 

I recently compared my friends pair of ATH-M50 and my SRH750DJ and basically, the bass is extremely lacking in the SRH750DJs.  I bought the Shures hoping for more volume than the M50's (from word in the forums) but was deeply disappointed that the M50's had a way fuller sounding bass.  The SRH750's sound balanced, but that's just not enough bass for me.

 

A couple of questions:

- Is there such thing as break-in?  I hear everything from no to yes here on the forums.

- Anyone with both of these pairs and want to also directly compare?
- My source is iPod.

 

Thanks,

Jay

post #2 of 20

Yes, you need to burn them in. When I got mine I tried them right out of the box and I was very disappointed, I didn't notice that much bass and everything else sounded thin. Once I burned them in for ~50 hours though they sound great and the bass is very present.

post #3 of 20

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should have a good 5db more bass across the board. maybe your friend had some bass boost on or something? or maybe they do need some break in.

post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 

I A/B'ed each one on the same source.  His was about 2 months old so I'm assuming they are full potential.  Mine are about ~30 hrs in with random music.  I just put them back in the box to return them but opened the box back again because, I guess, numbers (graphs) don't lie.  I'll give them more hours to break in and see what they sound like then.

 

Thanks guys.

post #5 of 20

Make sure you get a good seal on the earcups.  It may require position adjustments.

post #6 of 20

guess your problem is only about position adjustment.

post #7 of 20

Just try to burn them in more. Dynamic drivers need to loosen up to sound best. My M50s out of the box sounded: way too treble heavy, no bass at all, just wierd generally.

post #8 of 20

The Shures should have way more bass. Especially now with the new M50 being more treble-oriented.

I think it's either a fit issue, or they need some more break in.

post #9 of 20

I don't think it's a big difference between the Shures and M50 actually if you were to believe the graph, as you see the curve as a whole is also above M50's meaning all other frequencies also come out stronger ie, you just can't compare how the 10 - 300Hz range looks like, you also need to check how the mids and highs are, the stronger mids & highs the less bass will be heard as well ofc. A headphone can be very bassy even if bass range is at 0dB but if the mids and highs are at -20dB for example. :p I don't think Shure's bass is more than 1~2.5dB stronger which should be audible difference but certainly not something like 5dB (~2.67x as strong) which would be very audible difference.

 

To get a more accurate estimate, one should calculate the average of the 500 - 16kHz range (for example try pick out the values at each step and paste into Excel and take the average of it) and 10 - 250Hz and then compare. 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/25/10 at 10:13am
post #10 of 20

I've had these for about a week now (not a ton of use) and I have seemingly no bass. I guess I need to burn them in more? I'm just plugging them straight into my laptop, no amp or anything but even still, I should hear SOME shouldn't I?

post #11 of 20


 

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Originally Posted by angershark View Post

I've had these for about a week now (not a ton of use) and I have seemingly no bass. I guess I need to burn them in more? I'm just plugging them straight into my laptop, no amp or anything but even still, I should hear SOME shouldn't I?


If your not hearing any then something else is wrong, either your seal isn't good( absolutely eccential, ever wonder why they XB Series has those giant pads? That's why.) or your source is lacking, or you dont know what to listen for cause these are pretty bass heavy, not XB500 punch but much tighter response much more accurate.

post #12 of 20

burn-in

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

I don't think it's a big difference between the Shures and M50 actually if you were to believe the graph, as you see the curve as a whole is also above M50's meaning all other frequencies also come out stronger ie, you just can't compare how the 10 - 300Hz range looks like, you also need to check how the mids and highs are, the stronger mids & highs the less bass will be heard as well ofc. A headphone can be very bassy even if bass range is at 0dB but if the mids and highs are at -20dB for example. :p I don't think Shure's bass is more than 1~2.5dB stronger which should be audible difference but certainly not something like 5dB (~2.67x as strong) which would be very audible difference.

 

To get a more accurate estimate, one should calculate the average of the 500 - 16kHz range (for example try pick out the values at each step and paste into Excel and take the average of it) and 10 - 250Hz and then compare. 

This. RPG is my bass guru.basshead.gif He knows what he is talking about.

 

Burn them in, but don't expect miracles. You may want to try the the Sony XB500s or XB700s, which are $50 and $80 respectively. Those headphones might be a little muddy straight out of an Ipod, but they will provide bass in spades. Wait until 50 hours has gone by and report back.

post #14 of 20

hmmm...well i'm plugging directly into my laptop and trying some of the youtube 'headphone bass test' videos, and i mean the volume is super high, to the point that i can't even listen to them, but when i get to the level of volume where i can listen, i don't really feel any bass, and that's after i squeeze them to my head, adjust it so the 'seal' is as closed as possible, nothing...could it just be the source? should i take them to bestbuy and test them on a system there? i myself don't have an amp or anything...
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by angershark View Post

I've had these for about a week now (not a ton of use) and I have seemingly no bass. I guess I need to burn them in more? I'm just plugging them straight into my laptop, no amp or anything but even still, I should hear SOME shouldn't I?


If your not hearing any then something else is wrong, either your seal isn't good( absolutely eccential, ever wonder why they XB Series has those giant pads? That's why.) or your source is lacking, or you dont know what to listen for cause these are pretty bass heavy, not XB500 punch but much tighter response much more accurate.

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

Angershark-

 

I actually was not satisfied with the bass; the volume was never there after even long hours of burn in...I'm assuming it's a fit issue.  I returned the 750DJs and ordered the M50's instead.  I am happy now.

 

Jayzala
 

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Originally Posted by angershark View Post

hmmm...well i'm plugging directly into my laptop and trying some of the youtube 'headphone bass test' videos, and i mean the volume is super high, to the point that i can't even listen to them, but when i get to the level of volume where i can listen, i don't really feel any bass, and that's after i squeeze them to my head, adjust it so the 'seal' is as closed as possible, nothing...could it just be the source? should i take them to bestbuy and test them on a system there? i myself don't have an amp or anything...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoSpecial View Post


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by angershark View Post

I've had these for about a week now (not a ton of use) and I have seemingly no bass. I guess I need to burn them in more? I'm just plugging them straight into my laptop, no amp or anything but even still, I should hear SOME shouldn't I?


If your not hearing any then something else is wrong, either your seal isn't good( absolutely eccential, ever wonder why they XB Series has those giant pads? That's why.) or your source is lacking, or you dont know what to listen for cause these are pretty bass heavy, not XB500 punch but much tighter response much more accurate.


 
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