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post #1 of 10
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I have been gaming with a hd555 for the last few years and while I liked the sound of the headphones it's been getting harder to stand all the sounds going on around me (the game room is a "shared" room).

 

So I started looking for a new headphones and finally ended up getting the dt250 80 ohm. I am very impressed. To me it sounds just as good or slightly better than the hd555 while using the Xbox 360 and astro mixamp as the source. The thing I notice most is the lack of sounds going on around me.

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 10

Use the DT990 and see if you still prefer closed vs open. Lol.

 

Naturally some people will prefer the intimacy a closed headphone gives, but IMHO, the benefits of an open headphone far outweigh the benefits of closed. In the DT990's case, the benefit of closed (the thumping bass for me), is STILL there in addition to the airiness and sapcious soundstage of an open headphone (sans Grados).

post #3 of 10

in the OP's situation, closed is ideal.  there are many good reasons for closed.

post #4 of 10

Oh, I agree. In his particular situation, closed is a no brainer. I was speaking generally though. ;)

post #5 of 10

Yeah...I went opposite...from closed to open, though with two kids in the house I sometimes wish I still had my closed cans...lol

post #6 of 10

Sorry to go a little off topic here but Mad lust, how do you like your Dt990 compared to your D7000's? and does know the number ohms effects the sound quality of the dt990's assuming that you're running through an amp that could easily power both i.e. 6000ohms vs. 250ohms?

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Originally Posted by Bubbacritz View Post

Sorry to go a little off topic here but Mad lust, how do you like your Dt990 compared to your D7000's? and does know the number ohms effects the sound quality of the dt990's assuming that you're running through an amp that could easily power both i.e. 6000ohms vs. 250ohms?



I'm using the E9 which has been tested with great effect with the DT770, 880, 990, and T1, K701/2, amongst other hard to drive headphones.
 The E9 has better synergy with the D7000 than the 990s not because of the driving force, but because the E9 is transparent, and doesn't do anything about the super strong treble on the 990s (which is arguably a dealbreaker for many people, so they'd do better with a tube amp).

 

The ohm differences between the Beyers are a constantly debated topic. I myself don't believe the difference will be more than saaaaay 3% sound difference. It also helps that the 600ohm Beyers are known to be about the same as the 250ohm when it comes to the power needed to drive them because the 600ohm Beyers are efficient compared to other 600ohm headphones from other companies. Since the 600ohm versions are considered the best, I would choose them over the 250ohm version IF the price were around the same. If the 250ohm is considerably cheaper, I'd say go for that as I'm gonna assume they will sound very close to identical.

 

As for my DT990 vs the D7000, hmmm....

 

60>40 in favor of the DT990. Why? I'll explain:

 

Comfort:- The DT990 and D7000 are both very comfy. Probably a 9.5 and an 8.5 respectively. I prefer the open air design of the DT990, as well as the super soft velour pads. The D7000 is closed, gets hot more quickly, and the leather pads get sticky with prolonged wear.

 

Sound: Is the DT990 better? Hell no. But for my personal taste, I prefer the brighter tone of the 990s over the warmer D7000. The D7000 is DEFINITELY the better headphone when all things are said and done. There's nothing the DT990 does better except the quality of the bass (less boomy) and the open and brighter sound (again, personal preference). If the D7000 were a little brighter,  I'd say I would question keeping the DT990. Oh, I do prefer Rock more with the 990s.

 

Still it's a $250 or so headphone vs a typically $700-1000 headphone. There would be something seriously wrong if the D7000 wasn't better overall.

 

In the end, I have my uses for both (the open design of the 990s will help with gaming over the D7000), though for music they seem to do justice to ALL genres, so I wouldn't buy both if I had none. I'd probably still buy the 990s over the D7000 based off price, comfort, and the fact they still perform extremely well for my personal tastes. However, I have no intention of letting the D7000 go as I needed an epic closed headphone for controlling noise leakage anyway (which they are much better at doing than the 990s...obviously.)

 

For the majority of everyone else, I have no doubt they would choose the D7000 over the 990s 8 times out of 10.


Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/25/10 at 6:14am
post #8 of 10

Doesnt it also depend on what type of music you listen to?

post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by superheropunk View Post

I have been gaming with a hd555 for the last few years and while I liked the sound of the headphones it's been getting harder to stand all the sounds going on around me (the game room is a "shared" room).

 

So I started looking for a new headphones and finally ended up getting the dt250 80 ohm. I am very impressed. To me it sounds just as good or slightly better than the hd555 while using the Xbox 360 and astro mixamp as the source. The thing I notice most is the lack of sounds going on around me.

 

 

 

 


Wrong version!! The general consensus is that the 250 ohm version of the DT250 is almost as easy to drive, but way superior in sound quality.

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbacritz View Post

Sorry to go a little off topic here but Mad lust, how do you like your Dt990 compared to your D7000's? and does know the number ohms effects the sound quality of the dt990's assuming that you're running through an amp that could easily power both i.e. 6000ohms vs. 250ohms?



I'm using the E9 which has been tested with great effect with the DT770, 880, 990, and T1, K701/2, amongst other hard to drive headphones.
 The E9 has better synergy with the D7000 than the 990s not because of the driving force, but because the E9 is transparent, and doesn't do anything about the super strong treble on the 990s (which is arguably a dealbreaker for many people, so they'd do better with a tube amp).

 

The ohm differences between the Beyers are a constantly debated topic. I myself don't believe the difference will be more than saaaaay 3% sound difference. It also helps that the 600ohm Beyers are known to be about the same as the 250ohm when it comes to the power needed to drive them because the 600ohm Beyers are efficient compared to other 600ohm headphones from other companies. Since the 600ohm versions are considered the best, I would choose them over the 250ohm version IF the price were around the same. If the 250ohm is considerably cheaper, I'd say go for that as I'm gonna assume they will sound very close to identical.

 

As for my DT990 vs the D7000, hmmm....

 

60>40 in favor of the DT990. Why? I'll explain:

 

Comfort:- The DT990 and D7000 are both very comfy. Probably a 9.5 and an 8.5 respectively. I prefer the open air design of the DT990, as well as the super soft velour pads. The D7000 is closed, gets hot more quickly, and the leather pads get sticky with prolonged wear.

 

Sound: Is the DT990 better? Hell no. But for my personal taste, I prefer the brighter tone of the 990s over the warmer D7000. The D7000 is DEFINITELY the better headphone when all things are said and done. There's nothing the DT990 does better except the quality of the bass (less boomy) and the open and brighter sound (again, personal preference). If the D7000 were a little brighter,  I'd say I would question keeping the DT990. Oh, I do prefer Rock more with the 990s.

 

Still it's a $250 or so headphone vs a typically $700-1000 headphone. There would be something seriously wrong if the D7000 wasn't better overall.

 

In the end, I have my uses for both (the open design of the 990s will help with gaming over the D7000), though for music they seem to do justice to ALL genres, so I wouldn't buy both if I had none. I'd probably still buy the 990s over the D7000 based off price, comfort, and the fact they still perform extremely well for my personal tastes. However, I have no intention of letting the D7000 go as I needed an epic closed headphone for controlling noise leakage anyway (which they are much better at doing than the 990s...obviously.)

 

For the majority of everyone else, I have no doubt they would choose the D7000 over the 990s 8 times out of 10.


Thank you for the very detailed response, i saw the 250ohm dt990's used on amazon and i'm trying to decide whether it's a worth while investment to go along with my d7000's

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