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So I just bought this for school/audiophile purposes and will be picking it up tomorrow.

 

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-13-3-intel-i5-430m-u30jc-qhda1-cbil-silver-u30jc-qhda1-cbil/10157074.aspx?path=aef8a4dbd0d4df32038148ba9213623ben02

 

I plan on using lossless files and playing them through Foobar 2000 or something of equal value. I will be using torrents to download my music and to rip my CD's I will be using whatever program is most appropriate. Currently, I am referring to this thread to determine exactly what I will do for ripping.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/522111/importing-cd-s-to-digital-formats-what-are-the-best-ripping-programs-the-best-codec-s-and-the-best-settings

 

So far I have learned that most stock sound cards are not audiophile quality. I am still unclear as to whether the activity occuring inside the computer really affects sound quality because I have been told that it does and doesn't by people who seem fairly knowledgeable. I am not quite sure if I should A) stick with the same soundcard and just plug my Ultrasone Pro 900s into the computer and run with it (hoping the computer would maybe drive my cans) B) get a DAP and run with that (portable amp or no amp at all) C) get a portable dac or portable dac/amp and (again comes the question of how easily my 60 ohm cans can be driven) plug it into my computer and listen on the train (I will be taking the train to Toronto everyday for school) or D) get a new soundcard instead of a DAC and perhaps a portable amp with it if needed.

 

I am not quite sure what my budget is but I don't think I can be spending more than 100 dollars as of right now. Being that I am a student it was probably already bad enough that I bought the Ultrasone Pro 900s. Do some soundcards have built in amps?

 

 

I know I post a lot of threads with lots of questions and I hope that is not an annoyance. I really appreciate being a part of this online community and thoroughly enjoy having discussions with you guys. I really have a passion for being an audiophile. :) I hope to get some responses in here. :) Thanks for taking the time to view my thread.

post #2 of 5

imo the e7+e9 combo is a great way to introduce yourself to the "audiophile" world. It's versatile and economic. At <$200, it's not as big of a leap of faith you would make with the more pricier equipment others may recommend. The e9's got plenty of power to drive even 600ohm cans (according to other head-fier's). The e7 is a pretty good DAC for the money and you can also use it as a portable amp for a DAP as a bonus. While at the combo's price point, you can also get the Audio-GD NFB-12, which should trump the combo as far as sound quality goes, the NFB-12 is a bit limited to desktop use and you don't get the bonus of using it as a portable amp for your DAP.

 

Although I'm quite green at this audiophile stuff, I believe you'd hear the biggest difference between going from straight to headphones and adding a dac/amp in between the source and your output. As you move higher and higher in price range for gear I believe the gains start diminishing... the improvements will still be there and worth it for those who want best of the best. But in my opinion, test the waters with a more budget setup and see how you like it. 

 

 

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imo the e7+e9 combo is a great way to introduce yourself to the "audiophile" world. It's versatile and economic. At <$200, it's not as big of a leap of faith you would make with the more pricier equipment others may recommend. The e9's got plenty of power to drive even 600ohm cans (according to other head-fier's). The e7 is a pretty good DAC for the money and you can also use it as a portable amp for a DAP as a bonus. While at the combo's price point, you can also get the Audio-GD NFB-12, which should trump the combo as far as sound quality goes, the NFB-12 is a bit limited to desktop use and you don't get the bonus of using it as a portable amp for your DAP.

 

Although I'm quite green at this audiophile stuff, I believe you'd hear the biggest difference between going from straight to headphones and adding a dac/amp in between the source and your output. As you move higher and higher in price range for gear I believe the gains start diminishing... the improvements will still be there and worth it for those who want best of the best. But in my opinion, test the waters with a more budget setup and see how you like it. 

 

 



I appreciate the post, man. :) I don't think I'd go with the E7+E9 combo as my finances are hurtin' pretty bad right now. I'd just use my portable amp at home as well. I know this may be a stupid question but when using my laptop (on the go and running on it's battery) would I be able to use the dac AND the amp at the same time with my headphones? Or would I be stuck to using just one component of the two offered with the E7?

 

I also have the same question about when I am using it with a DAP.

post #4 of 5

If I may make a suggestion, consider the NuForce uDac-2 as well. It's tiny, and it's a combo dac/amp that's driven by USB power.

 

Should be able to handle 60ohms just fine, as i'm barely above the 9 o'clock position with 32 ohm grados.

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In your case then, you can just get the e7 since it IS a DAC/amp combo (although its amp isn't as powerful as the e9) that runs off its own batteries. You can also use it for your DAP as well. The udac2 also is a favorable budget combo as well but you'll only be able to use with laptop afaik since it runs off USB power. I'm not sure how sound quality compares between the udac2 and the e7 but the e7 wins as far as versatility goes. It also gives you the option of turning usb charging off so you don't drain your laptop batteries as fast. That plus u can always add on an e9 in the future for home use if your budget allows.

 

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I know this may be a stupid question but when using my laptop (on the go and running on it's battery) would I be able to use the dac AND the amp at the same time with my headphones? Or would I be stuck to using just one component of the two offered with the E7?

 

I also have the same question about when I am using it with a DAP.


Edited by WMah - 12/23/10 at 11:48pm
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