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post #496 of 3230

Both brands represent the opposite of a boutique manufacturer to me, and in my mind that is a good thing. No nonsense, frills or excess with an emphasis on value.

 

But Emotiva has obviously never had their hands on an HE6; I am also quite interested in how this amp performs with it!

 

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Edited by grokit - 7/11/12 at 8:50pm
post #497 of 3230
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Both brands represent the opposite of a boutique manufacturer to me, and in my mind that is a good thing. No nonsense, frills or excess with an emphasis on value.

 

But Emotiva has obviously never had their hands on an HE6; I am also quite interested in how this amp performs with it!

 

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Certainly what I've read about emotiva. I definitely like the approach, but it certainly doesn't sell as many units. We'll see how the little amp performs. From what I've read on the unit, it's supposed to be a little solid guy, with a slightly bright sound sig. I hope the brightness doesn't add too much to the high end of the HE-6.

post #498 of 3230
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

Certainly what I've read about emotiva. I definitely like the approach, but it certainly doesn't sell as many units. We'll see how the little amp performs. From what I've read on the unit, it's supposed to be a little solid guy, with a slightly bright sound sig. I hope the brightness doesn't add too much to the high end of the HE-6.

 elwappo99,

 

Did your Little Dot MK VI+ have a hard time driveing the HE-6?

 

Also why not just a regular 2 channle amp to drive the HE-6?

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/ultra-series/products/upa200

post #499 of 3230
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 elwappo99,

 

Did your Little Dot MK VI+ have a hard time driveing the HE-6?

 

Also why not just a regular 2 channle amp to drive the HE-6?

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/ultra-series/products/upa200

 

The MKVI+ didn't have too much trouble. the only time was it just wasn't quite loud enough on very quiet songs (e.g. well recorded classical). I didn't have trouble with 95% of the music tossed at it. 

 

That amp listed intrigued me, but it didn't have a volume control on it.

post #500 of 3230
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

That amp listed intrigued me, but it didn't have a volume control on it.

 

 

OH yeah,  silly me.  I was thinking to myself about this because I already have it:

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/processors/products/xda1

post #501 of 3230
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

OH yeah,  silly me.  I was thinking to myself about this because I already have it:

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/processors/products/xda1

 

Yeah, that looks like a great amp though. Just got released. If I had a preamp running between the DAC and the amp, I would really consider it. 

post #502 of 3230

So currently I am using a Yahama RX-V1067 with a HE-adapter to drive the HE-6...but  the bass still seems a little light. the HE adapter also gets VERY hot so I'm guessing I have enough power right?

 

But any other suggestions for an amplifier? i'd like the same volume but I'd like more bass. I'd perfer it to be sub $1000...I'd like to spend less so I'm looking for value for money.

post #503 of 3230
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Originally Posted by Daemos View Post

So currently I am using a Yahama RX-V1067 with a HE-adapter to drive the HE-6...but  the bass still seems a little light. the HE adapter also gets VERY hot so I'm guessing I have enough power right?

But any other suggestions for an amplifier? i'd like the same volume but I'd like more bass. I'd perfer it to be sub $1000...I'd like to spend less so I'm looking for value for money.
The brightness could come from your source. However, I frankly think that the HE-6 has a little too much treble, and this makes it sound bright - even when properly driven. You could try an easy mod: take a piece of 1mm thick felt and makes two circular pieces with a 4cm hole in it and put each between the drivers and your ears. This will take away the excess treble and give you a little extra bass - without sacrificing SQ. In fact soundstage becomes bigger and the overall sound is more natural.
post #504 of 3230

Still tweaking my dynamic rig.  I just put a Placette Active behind the First Watt J2 and it's pretty breathtaking.  I think the detail retrieval may now be on par with the SR009, but I'll probably be doing a BHSE/SR007/SR009 shootout in the next month or two.  Cymbals seem to go on forever, and horns are actually musical rather than shrill and edgy.  I like the vocals more on the Stax rig, as the Stax sound more forward and immediate (intimate?), but I'm giving the edge to the HE-6 for most instrumental stuff.  Still not sure which I like more with electronica.  The resolution with the Placette Active+J2 is so good it's almost distracting at times--I had a similar issue with the SR009, but the HE-6 isn't giving me the migraines the SR009 would.  I'm not sure if transparency is my thing, but it's certainly impressive.

 

Still need to put the dynamic rig on the transformer (unshielded 14AWG power cables), swap cheap unbalanced cables with rhodium connectors and shielded silver wire, and waiting for my hifi rack to come in.  I have no idea if vibration control will do anything for a fully SS chain.

 

The thing that's impressed me the most about the HE-6 is how responsive they are to the signal chain.  The speaker-like quality of the HE-6 makes it a lot of fun for audiophiles who like rig tweaking and experimentation.  It's the only dynamic I've spent time with that are comparable to the Stax in that regard.  I'll need to try an LCD-3 again, and would love to try a THD900.


Edited by Elysian - 7/16/12 at 1:10am
post #505 of 3230
Another means to dampen the highs is to wear sanitary covers.
post #506 of 3230

Aka insanity covers?

post #507 of 3230

I got the emotiva hooked up on friday, but I only had it hooked up to my zune, which in my opinion is a pretty decent source. I didn't want to post anything then, because I thought it was a 'meh' sounding amp. I mean, decent, but a little dark, and a little bass heavy.

 

Finally got it hooked up to my reference one, and I realized how revealing the HE-6 matched with this amp is, especially of the source. Amp is definitely close to neutral. Very clear, very revealing and no emphasis into any frequency range. I'm about to head out, but I'll post a little more later. 

post #508 of 3230
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Originally Posted by Daemos View Post

So currently I am using a Yahama RX-V1067 with a HE-adapter to drive the HE-6...but  the bass still seems a little light. the HE adapter also gets VERY hot so I'm guessing I have enough power right?

 

But any other suggestions for an amplifier? i'd like the same volume but I'd like more bass. I'd perfer it to be sub $1000...I'd like to spend less so I'm looking for value for money.

 

I think the issue stems from the fact that you're using an audio / video receiver.  Yamaha makes some great 2-channel receivers and integrated amplifiers with "variable loudness" controls.  The variable loudness feature allows you to somewhat adjust the frequency for better performance during lower volume level listening sessions.  In this regard, A/V receivers can't compare to what is being offered by Yamaha in the 2-channel league.

post #509 of 3230

Emotiva A-100

 

Customer Service:

I asked a few questions. Quick, simple, and straight to the point answers. Really easy to work with. Shipment notification literally 10 minutes after the order was placed. 

 

Amp Packaging:

Double boxed and very sturdy packing materials. Only came with a power cord, so no frills here.

 

 

The Amp Itself:

Very simple, clean design. One RCA input on the back, with a line out of RCAs. 

 

Sound:

Ok, here's where you probably just skipped to. To put it simply, this is a very clean and neutral sounding amp. With no music playing on the HE-6, the noise floor started at 11 oclock or so, but really couldn't be heard until 1 or 2. With as much power as it packs, about 12 oclock is as loud as I've ever listened. 

 

The sound that I got from it hooked up to my Reference 1, is very open, natural, clean and analytical. Listening to some Andrew Manze, I quickly noticed the clear and open nature of the HE-6. The soundstage was very large, wide and open. Violins could easily be placed among the orchestra, just in front of you, slightly to the right. Brass could clearly be heard just behind that. Certainly, just as open at my Pioneer SX990. 

 

Bass impact was clear and powerful. A little more than I've heard on the HE-6 before, especially in the sub bass. It's very quick paced in HE-6 fashion, but there's that truly rare separation of bass notes. Individual bass notes in electronic music really stood out. It's there on some other amps I've had, but they really stand out for the first time with the HE-6. On some rock songs, I can clearly hear the reverb from the bass drum as it vibrates. 

 

 

Mid range is nothing shocking. Following basically the same lines. It's very open and natural sounding. Something interesting to note is the detail in the mid range. In stringed instruments when the musician picks up the note you can hear their bow or pick hit the string. Nothing too surprising for the pick, but using a bow is something that hasn't stood out too much. When a violinist changes a note you can hear the bow stop and then the sudden pressure that is created.

 

Highs are probably my least favorite part. Certainly because of the HE-6 and recordings, and nothing new with the amp. When something is poorly recorded, it just sounds terribly bright. On well recorded tracks, the highs are breathtaking. Diana Krall, Carpenters, and Krauss are real winners here. The highs are definitely separate, and clear. There's a certain amount of texture I found in some higher quality recordings I rarely find in female vocals. 

 

 

I know these are brief, but to wrap it up, I really like this amp. I think the HE-6 is truly dependent on a good source and then amplifier, and this amp does not impede the Reference 1 in any way. I was really impressed in it's power and clarity. This could definitely become the favorite 'budget' amplifier for the HE-6 that we've all been all been looking for (well, at least that I have been looking for). 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited by elwappo99 - 7/16/12 at 5:40pm
post #510 of 3230

elwappo the amp is quite a bit smaller than i thought it was going to be. thats pretty awesome, anymore impressions for us?

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