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Hi - I am considering these as an alternative to usual suspects (LCD3, HD800). What would be the cheapest possible amp that can drive them?

post #3302 of 3314

a speaker amp of the non-flea power type :evil:

post #3303 of 3314

But Quality over quantity my friend. If you can get both then fabulous.

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Currently I conduct a modest review of headphones abilities to play subgenres of metal
http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution)
No doubts, HE-6 - one of the most talented cans in this area. I would like to provide them a worthy amplification and to upgrade my speakers system (currently NAD 372/Sugden a21l + ProAc D Two).

 

Impression from listening of my amplifiers with HE-6 are following:
- NAD 372 (as power amplifier, no use of preamlifier): I like clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articulated bass. I don't like harsh highs and somewhat flat and dry mids.
- Sugden a21l: Good - vast soundstage, warm and touching mids. No good - loss of details, soft bass.

 

Looking for speaker amp combining pluses of two amps above with no minuses  (wondering if it's possible) - "clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articilated bass" + "vast soundstage, warm and touching mids".

Any suggestions on power amplifiers / integrated amplifiers up to $2000?
What to prefer, 50w A-class or 150w AB?

post #3305 of 3314
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Originally Posted by levap View Post
 

Currently I conduct a modest review of headphones abilities to play subgenres of metal
http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution)
No doubts, HE-6 - one of the most talented cans in this area. I would like to provide them a worthy amplification and to upgrade my speakers system (currently NAD 372/Sugden a21l + ProAc D Two).

 

Impression from listening of my amplifiers with HE-6 are following:
- NAD 372 (as power amplifier, no use of preamlifier): I like clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articulated bass. I don't like harsh highs and somewhat flat and dry mids.
- Sugden a21l: Good - vast soundstage, warm and touching mids. No good - loss of details, soft bass.

 

Looking for speaker amp combining pluses of two amps above with no minuses  (wondering if it's possible) - "clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articilated bass" + "vast soundstage, warm and touching mids".

Any suggestions on power amplifiers / integrated amplifiers up to $2000?
What to prefer, 50w A-class or 150w AB?

 

 

There are so many choices out there.  

 

While the Master 10 fits within your price range, it does not fit within your preferred watts.  

http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master10/Master-10EN.htm

 

I also like the Pass Labs integrated amps (INT-30 and the INT-150).  They fit within your preferred wattage rang but not in your price range.

You can find these here http://www.renohifi.com/PassInStock.htm  from 3.5k to 4.5k.  Mark is a great guy to deal with.

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There are so many choices out there.  

 

While the Master 10 fits within your price range, it does not fit within your preferred watts.  

http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master10/Master-10EN.htm

 

I also like the Pass Labs integrated amps (INT-30 and the INT-150).  They fit within your preferred wattage rang but not in your price range.

You can find these here http://www.renohifi.com/PassInStock.htm  from 3.5k to 4.5k.  Mark is a great guy to deal with.

Watt range is just for instance, only sound signature is really important - "clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articilated bass" + "vast soundstage, warm and touching mids".

Does Master 10 сorrespond to this profile? How would you describe Master 10's mids and highs?

post #3307 of 3314

It's the mids of the Master 10 that I like and has me keeping it this long.  The mids are full, have body, soul, character or whatever other buzz word you want to use.  The bass on the HE-6 is already great, the Master 10 takes nothing away from it.  The highs are detailed yet smooth.

 

I'm thinking about changing my DAC out to the NFB-7 to see if it can get a tad bit more lively, but keep the things I like about it - namely the mids.

 

The F1J I had was more open and airy and the bass was truly taut.  But the mids and the smooth highs on the Master 10 are top flight.  As far as soundstage goes -I think the grill mod on the HE-6 does that area some good with any amp.


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post #3308 of 3314
Question on he6 or the new he. Anyone tried hpa8? Sufficient?
post #3309 of 3314
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It's the mids of the Master 10 that I like and has me keeping it this long.  The mids are full, have body, soul, character or whatever other buzz word you want to use.  The bass on the HE-6 is already great, the Master 10 takes nothing away from it.  The highs are detailed yet smooth.

 

I'm thinking about changing my DAC out to the NFB-7 to see if it can get a tad bit more lively, but keep the things I like about it - namely the mids.

 

The F1J I had was more open and airy and the bass was truly taut.  But the mids and the smooth highs on the Master 10 are top flight.  As far as soundstage goes -I think the grill mod on the HE-6 does that area some good with any amp.

Alas, you won't get the M7 mids with the NFB-7. A more lively sound, definitely.

You will also loose in overall technicalities (soundstage depth, separation, overall cohesion).

 

The NFB-7 is still a good Sabre DAC. I really enjoyed having Gourami's NFB-7 for 2 weeks. It pairs better with the SA-31SE than the Master-7, too. Makes for a great combo with HE-560.

post #3310 of 3314
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Originally Posted by levap View Post
 

Watt range is just for instance, only sound signature is really important - "clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articilated bass" + "vast soundstage, warm and touching mids".

Does Master 10 сorrespond to this profile? How would you describe Master 10's mids and highs?

 

Ragnarok matches that description. Had a blast (®) listening to the doors yesterday!

post #3311 of 3314
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Alas, you won't get the M7 mids with the NFB-7. A more lively sound, definitely.

You will also loose in overall technicalities (soundstage depth, separation, overall cohesion).

 

The NFB-7 is still a good Sabre DAC. I really enjoyed having Gourami's NFB-7 for 2 weeks. It pairs better with the SA-31SE than the Master-7, too. Makes for a great combo with HE-560.

 

The Bold is my thinking as well when it comes to the Master 10.  I'll have to see hear to be sure.

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Originally Posted by ZzBOG View Post

Hi - I am considering these as an alternative to usual suspects (LCD3, HD800). What would be the cheapest possible amp that can drive them?
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Originally Posted by levap View Post

Currently I conduct a modest review of headphones abilities to play subgenres of metal
http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution)

No doubts, HE-6 - one of the most talented cans in this area. I would like to provide them a worthy amplification and to upgrade my speakers system (currently NAD 372/Sugden a21l + ProAc D Two).

Impression from listening of my amplifiers with HE-6 are following:

- NAD 372 (as power amplifier, no use of preamlifier): I like clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articulated bass. I don't like harsh highs and somewhat flat and dry mids.

- Sugden a21l: Good - vast soundstage, warm and touching mids. No good - loss of details, soft bass.

Looking for speaker amp combining pluses of two amps above with no minuses  (wondering if it's possible) - "clear, deatailed sound, powerful, fast and well-articilated bass" + "vast soundstage, warm and touching mids".
Any suggestions on power amplifiers / integrated amplifiers up to $2000?

What to prefer, 50w A-class or 150w AB?

U could contact blue circle audio..and see what they can cook up for u biggrin.gif
post #3313 of 3314

Gilbert, the mad scientist behind blue circle, can build you some one of a kind custom monsters for anything you might need.... power conditioners, dacs, amps,pre and phonos..... depending on your budget you could go from "just enough" :o to ultra overkill :veryevil: .

do note that I haven't bought some of his products yet but have read lots of articles on what he has done and can do, pretty crazy stuff going on in that lab of his :evil: .

post #3314 of 3314
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Hi - I am considering these as an alternative to usual suspects (LCD3, HD800). What would be the cheapest possible amp that can drive them?

 

You could go for a vintage power amplifier or integrated depending on your source.

I'm using a Yamaha M-4 together with a Palmer Monicon passive monitor controller (the latter should cost less than $100 in the US).

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