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post #2536 of 3519
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post
 

 

Yes Kingwa told me that my Master-6 would be better than the more powerful Precision 2 with the HE6's due to being balanced and simply a superior amp, regardless of the extra power of the Precision 2 never mind the less powerful Precision 1.

 

So I am not surprised by your experience.

Maybe the Precision 2 would get you closer to the Taurus performance and still be much cheaper?

 

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Originally Posted by Todams View Post
 

I spent some hours yesterday comparing my Taurus Mk2 with GD Audio Precision 1 (loaner) and the Taurus was better despite the higher power output of the Precision one. One the Precision one I used the He-adapter and the headphone jack, and tried both low and high gain but compared to the Taurus in balanced mode it was some what thinner in sound quality. The precision 1 is much more powerful giving 22w into 25 ohm and if I remember correctly 7w into 100 ohm but it is only single ended. The Taurus can be tested with 4 pin xlr between single ended and balanced by pushing a button and sounds best in balanced mode on my He 6 and Lcd 2.2. The Taurus puts out 4500mw into low impedance which is much less than 22w but I guess the construction also plays a part. The Taurus costs more than twice as much here in Norway as the Precision one so the comparison isn`t quite fair. Having tried my He 6 with He-adapter from my Line Magnetic 216 IA tube amp and from the Precision 1 without any of them besting my Taurus, I guess its time to let the upgrade itch rest for while and just enjoy my equipment. Try to remember that individual taste is different and you have to commit to your own preferences. Happy listening.

 

 

Master 3

post #2537 of 3519

In Balanced mode the Taurus "only" put out 1.2W in 32 Ohms according to the specs, although I am pretty sure it is a fantastic amp for the HE-6. A friend I trust also reported great synergy with the Hifiman.

post #2538 of 3519

I can not find the Master 6 on Audio-Gd´s home page, perhaps it is out of production. The importer here in Norway only has the master 10 which costs more than my Taurus and must be used with the he-adapter because it lacks headphone outputs.

post #2539 of 3519
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Originally Posted by Todams View Post
 

I can not find the Master 6 on Audio-Gd´s home page, perhaps it is out of production. The importer here in Norway only has the master 10 which costs more than my Taurus and must be used with the he-adapter because it lacks headphone outputs.

 

The new version is the Master-9 headphone amp.

 

The Master-10 is a power amp I believe.


Edited by nigeljames - 2/15/14 at 5:59am
post #2540 of 3519
When you get your speaker tap adapter, try your amps again. May be not different but it usually is.
post #2541 of 3519

That Master 10 is a big boy.  Should sound very close to the Master 3 if not identical.  All you would need is this:

 

post #2542 of 3519
Who owns the master 10 ? Or are they planning on buying it.

Al
post #2543 of 3519

Okay put a bunch of hours on the oyaide 5s continental versus the cheapest oldest usb cable i got. Results overall quality no change. Less jitter on the 5s and I feel a warmer sound, that is less piercing high end. Now is it placebo? not sure but swear I hear a warmer palette. Concerning power conditioner, well I feel better about protecting my amp and computer, I guess thats worth a couple of hundred. 

I am digging the fostex system though, any thoughts on how high an amp gain is best?

post #2544 of 3519
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Originally Posted by Whazzzup View Post
 

Okay put a bunch of hours on the oyaide 5s continental versus the cheapest oldest usb cable i got. Results overall quality no change. Less jitter on the 5s and I feel a warmer sound, that is less piercing high end. Now is it placebo? not sure but swear I hear a warmer palette. Concerning power conditioner, well I feel better about protecting my amp and computer, I guess thats worth a couple of hundred. 

I am digging the fostex system though, any thoughts on how high an amp gain is best?

Sometimes that warmer sound can be contributed to less noise, and it would be a degree of white noise, making it perceptively brighter. For amp gain, it depends. You don't want to clip your signal, nor bury the quietest passages into your noise floor. I say "whatever sounds best" but i recommend you go lower than higher, as audible clipping is severe compared to minor clipping.

 

Cheers,

Brunk

post #2545 of 3519
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post
 

In Balanced mode the Taurus "only" put out 1.2W in 32 Ohms according to the specs, although I am pretty sure it is a fantastic amp for the HE-6. A friend I trust also reported great synergy with the Hifiman.

 

It's output into different loads *even on the same connection balanced/SE* is variable though, I think it is probably putting more into 50ohm:

 

Output Power (continuous in RMS)

  STD Mode BAL Mode
32ohm 4500mW 1200mW
120ohm 1200mW 4500mW
300ohm 500mW 2000mW
600ohm 250mW 1000mW

 

(from the Auralic website)

post #2546 of 3519
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 

It's output into different loads *even on the same connection balanced/SE* is variable though, I think it is probably putting more into 50ohm:

Output Power (continuous in RMS
)







































  STD Mode BAL
 Mode
32ohm
4500mW
1200mW
120ohm
1200mW
4500mW
300ohm
500mW
2000mW
600ohm
250mW
1000mW


(from the Auralic website)
Something funny going on with those specs at 32 ohms...  Hitting a serious current limit in balanced mode, but doing quite well in single ended?  Either that's a typo or their balanced mode really doesn't like low impedance cans!

edit to add: After reading their "Technical description" the Taurus should be in single ended mode for low impedance (high current demand) cans.  Their balanced mode seems aimed at high impedance drivers.

Looking at the related current delivered to the load, the amp hits a current limit in balanced mode of 194 mA RMS.  That would put your power into a nominal 50 ohm load at just short of 1.9 W.

One could get nearly 2.9 W into 50 ohms in SE mode...
Edited by potterma - 2/17/14 at 9:29pm
post #2547 of 3519

Yeah, I would imagine the SE mode would sound better just because of the extra power.

post #2548 of 3519
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

Yeah, I would imagine the SE mode would sound better just because of the extra power.

I haven't done enough comparison, but so far I prefer the balanced connection on the Taurus. A few others I've seen feel the same, although Project86 likes SE and has had a lot more time with it than I have.
post #2549 of 3519

I also prefer balanced mode on my Taurus mk2, it sounds more substantial on both He 6 and Lcd 2.2. On my tube amp He 6 sounds very good from the speaker taps via He-adapter but I still prefer my Taurus.

post #2550 of 3519

Hello!

 

Anyone tried a KRAudio amp with the HE-6?

Wondering if my VA 340i would be a good match with the HE-6.

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