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post #2521 of 4934
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

The Topping isn't bad with the HE-6, I was using one prior to getting my Taurus MKII. In retrospect, with the benefit of hearing the 6 from the Taurus (which I think is probably still a ways off how good the 6 could sound on the right speaker amps), I would say that the Topping is sufficient to bring the bass, slam and dynamics out of the 6, however the imaging and soundstage and refinement/micro detail will not be approaching their potential. It's a decent stop-gap for the price.

Why do you say that? I have tried several good speaker amps, and the Taurus is better. I would be really surprised to find anything significantly better than the Taurus.
post #2522 of 4934
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post


Why do you say that? I have tried several good speaker amps, and the Taurus is better. I would be really surprised to find anything significantly better than the Taurus.

 

For one thing a lot of the opinions I most respect where the HE-6 is concerned *because they have the most experience* are quite sure that it sounds its best from speaker amps, also there is one definite opinion here from a Taurus MKII owner to say that it sounds better out of their speaker amp. I did not say this was a certainty by any means, only that I thought it might get better from a truly well-matched speaker amp.

post #2523 of 4934
I tried about five or six. The point is we have our own opinions and as long as we do not make statements that are misleading then I think they are fine. Overall the cans are great and many speaker amps work fine.

Al
post #2524 of 4934
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

For one thing a lot of the opinions I most respect where the HE-6 is concerned *because they have the most experience* are quite sure that it sounds its best from speaker amps, also there is one definite opinion here from a Taurus MKII owner to say that it sounds better out of their speaker amp. I did not say this was a certainty by any means, only that I thought it might get better from a truly well-matched speaker amp.

None have heard them all....
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post #2525 of 4934
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Originally Posted by Todams View Post
 

Hi, I have got a balanced cable from Q-audio which is very comfortable and sounds good. I run my He 6 from a Line Magnetic Audio 216 IA tube amp via he-adapter or balanced from my Taurus mk2 and I think the Taurus has the upper hand. I have been trying balanced and single ended from the Taurus and prefer balanced as it sounds more musical. The tube amp is single ended but quite good also. Tomorrow I will loan an Audio GD Precision 1 which is very powerful but single ended and try this. I have a new pair of Lcd 2.2 and alternate between this and my He 6 depending on the cd I am listening to. Think I will keep both of them since they compliment each other.

 

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post #2526 of 4934
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None have heard them all....
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Well of course not, hence why my comment was not a definite statement of fact. Not sure why you're making so much of this?

post #2527 of 4934
^ I just do not think people should believe that you need a big speaker amp to get the he6 sound great. I was wondering if you had any specific experience with speaker amps being significantly better than the Taurus, or wether you were just assuming Taurus is a lesser amp following the general "truth" of this thread. That's all wink.gif
post #2528 of 4934
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

^ I just do not think people should believe that you need a big speaker amp to get the he6 sound great. I was wondering if you had any specific experience with speaker amps being significantly better than the Taurus, or wether you were just assuming Taurus is a lesser amp following the general "truth" of this thread. That's all wink.gif

 

I don't think a big speaker amp is mandatory, I love how it sounds out of my Taurus. I think it is clear I was not assuming anything given how I phrased my statement to incorporate uncertainty.

 

I do look forward in time to trying it from some more speaker amps to see whether it can scale yet higher, that'd be mighty impressive considering how it sounds on the Taurus!


Edited by NZtechfreak - 2/12/14 at 6:51pm
post #2529 of 4934
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

^ I just do not think people should believe that you need a big speaker amp to get the he6 sound great. I was wondering if you had any specific experience with speaker amps being significantly better than the Taurus, or wether you were just assuming Taurus is a lesser amp following the general "truth" of this thread. That's all wink.gif

 

Just like I don't think people should believe you can get the absolute best out of the HE-6 with a regular headphone amp.  

 

Now amps like the LAu or the Super Symmetry Dynahi may yield different results

 

I'm having a Super Symmetry Dynahi built soon.  I hope it works better or on the same level as my F1J. 

 

I haven't tried the Taurus, but I've tried just about everything else.  In my experience if you want the absolute best out of your HE-6 a low powered speaker amp is the way to go.  

 

Yes, I'm very sure the HE-6 sounds great out the Taurus, I'm sure it does.  However, side by side against a high quality speaker amp - my money will go with the speaker amp 100% of the time.

post #2530 of 4934
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

Just like I don't think people should believe you can get the absolute best out of the HE-6 with a regular headphone amp.  

 

Now amps like the LAu or the Super Symmetry Dynahi may yield different results

 

I'm having a Super Symmetry Dynahi built soon.  I hope it works better or on the same level as my F1J. 

 

I haven't tried the Taurus, but I've tried just about everything else.  In my experience if you want the absolute best out of your HE-6 a low powered speaker amp is the way to go.  

 

Yes, I'm very sure the HE-6 sounds great out the Taurus, I'm sure it does.  However, side by side against a high quality speaker amp - my money will go with the speaker amp 100% of the time.

 

I think people are far to pre-occupied with getting the absolute best out of the HE6's.

 

I mean how many people know that they are getting the best from any headphone regardless of the amp used. It may be the best they have heard but they will not be able to say it's the absolute best and no amp would be better.

 

So I think people are too consumed with getting the absolute best for the HE6.  I am perfectly happy with mine out of my M6, I mean I prefer them to the LCD2.2's and T1's and on a par with the HD800's, and as few people are going to state that the HE6's are in a different class to the T1, HD800's and LCD2.2's I am happy with that.

 

On the other hand I do agree, knowing the nature of the beast, that the correct speaker amp definitely is the best option to improve on what I already have, although the Ragnarok could be interesting if it fulfills it's promise.


Edited by nigeljames - 2/13/14 at 8:54am
post #2531 of 4934

Absolutely.  I agree 100%

post #2532 of 4934
Hello all -
I'm a proud owner of a pair of HiFiMans and would like to know where you guys out here got the XLR x L+/- x R+/- speaker terminal cable adapters from so you can effectively drive your, um, our HE-6s...? Do you know of someone who makes them at a reasonable price? Also would be interested in a second adapter that would be almost the same as the above description except a 1/4 inch female headphone jack instead of the XLR connection? It would allow me to juice my other headphones to my 10wpc tube monoblocks...
Thanks to all who might reply...
post #2533 of 4934

I spent some hours yesterday comparing my Taurus Mk2 with GD Audio Precision 1 (loaner) and the Taurus was better despite the higher power output of the Precision one. One the Precision one I used the He-adapter and the headphone jack, and tried both low and high gain but compared to the Taurus in balanced mode it was some what thinner in sound quality. The precision 1 is much more powerful giving 22w into 25 ohm and if I remember correctly 7w into 100 ohm but it is only single ended. The Taurus can be tested with 4 pin xlr between single ended and balanced by pushing a button and sounds best in balanced mode on my He 6 and Lcd 2.2. The Taurus puts out 4500mw into low impedance which is much less than 22w but I guess the construction also plays a part. The Taurus costs more than twice as much here in Norway as the Precision one so the comparison isn`t quite fair. Having tried my He 6 with He-adapter from my Line Magnetic 216 IA tube amp and from the Precision 1 without any of them besting my Taurus, I guess its time to let the upgrade itch rest for while and just enjoy my equipment. Try to remember that individual taste is different and you have to commit to your own preferences. Happy listening.

post #2534 of 4934
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Originally Posted by Todams View Post
 

I spent some hours yesterday comparing my Taurus Mk2 with GD Audio Precision 1 (loaner) and the Taurus was better despite the higher power output of the Precision one. One the Precision one I used the He-adapter and the headphone jack, and tried both low and high gain but compared to the Taurus in balanced mode it was some what thinner in sound quality. The precision 1 is much more powerful giving 22w into 25 ohm and if I remember correctly 7w into 100 ohm but it is only single ended. The Taurus can be tested with 4 pin xlr between single ended and balanced by pushing a button and sounds best in balanced mode on my He 6 and Lcd 2.2. The Taurus puts out 4500mw into low impedance which is much less than 22w but I guess the construction also plays a part. The Taurus costs more than twice as much here in Norway as the Precision one so the comparison isn`t quite fair. Having tried my He 6 with He-adapter from my Line Magnetic 216 IA tube amp and from the Precision 1 without any of them besting my Taurus, I guess its time to let the upgrade itch rest for while and just enjoy my equipment. Try to remember that individual taste is different and you have to commit to your own preferences. Happy listening.

 

Yes Kingwa told me that my Master-6 would be better than the more powerful Precision 2 with the HE6's due to being balanced and simply a superior amp, regardless of the extra power of the Precision 2 never mind the less powerful Precision 1.

 

So I am not surprised by your experience.

Maybe the Precision 2 would get you closer to the Taurus performance and still be much cheaper?

post #2535 of 4934
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Originally Posted by SKean View Post

Hello all -
I'm a proud owner of a pair of HiFiMans and would like to know where you guys out here got the XLR x L+/- x R+/- speaker terminal cable adapters from so you can effectively drive your, um, our HE-6s...? Do you know of someone who makes them at a reasonable price? Also would be interested in a second adapter that would be almost the same as the above description except a 1/4 inch female headphone jack instead of the XLR connection? It would allow me to juice my other headphones to my 10wpc tube monoblocks...
Thanks to all who might reply...

http://www.btg-audio.com/

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