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post #16 of 28
12/23/10 at 8:27am

You should check out a zana deux tube amp.  The ZD and 650's are a perfect match. 

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post #17 of 28
12/23/10 at 4:38pm
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Taking a look at the audio-gd website, it seems that the Phoenix is their balanced amp at $1200. I'll have to search for reviews on how they compare to the beta22, but i'll take that into consideration. Thanks for the suggestion!
 

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OP, you should check out the balanced Audio-GD gear. It's the course I've plotted for myself, without the astronomical budget.


 

The Zana Deux fits perfectly into my budget! I guess its a tossup between the Zana Deux SE, and the beta22.... I guess i'll have to find someplace to audition them in Singapore, before deciding.



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You should check out a zana deux tube amp.  The ZD and 650's are a perfect match. 

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post #18 of 28
12/23/10 at 4:47pm

WIth a $2,500 budget for feeding the HD650, I suggest you go balanced. Check the Little Dot and Audio GD products. And you might as well go fully balanced too: get a DAC or CD Player that outputs a balanced line level signal to the balanced amp.

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post #19 of 28
12/23/10 at 5:15pm
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It's actually a $3k budget, $500 for the source, and $2.5k for the amp. My original intention was a Yulong D100, outputting a balanced signal into a balanced beta22. I guess a beta22 is the best balanced solid state amp i can get at this price. But i am looking into HD650 reviews on opinions about tube amps at the moment. Still can't decide: tube or solid state... I guess an audition with both type of amps is the only way to make a decision.
 

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WIth a $2,500 budget for feeding the HD650, I suggest you go balanced. Check the Little Dot and Audio GD products. And you might as well go fully balanced too: get a DAC or CD Player that outputs a balanced line level signal to the balanced amp.

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post #20 of 28
12/23/10 at 5:17pm

Why would you spend ~$300 for the headphones and then $2000 on the amp? Amplification brings much less improvement for the money

 

Buy other headphones. You only tried low end headphones. The HD650 is not worth it IMO. Why not get a true hi-end headphone?

 

Personally, I like the HD800 through an MP3 player more than the HD650 through an average set-up, but that may just be my preference towards more treble emphasis.


Edited by wind016 - 12/23/10 at 5:24pm
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post #21 of 28
12/23/10 at 5:38pm

You should check this thread out OP. Highly unscientific but food for thought non the less.

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post #22 of 28
12/23/10 at 10:14pm
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I'm not really a fan of treble emphasis. From my recent auditions of headphones, i have concluded i prefer the darker, more laid back sound of the HD650. I might look into the LCD-2s, although i feel pretty determined to get a HD650(i love its look).
 

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Why would you spend ~$300 for the headphones and then $2000 on the amp? Amplification brings much less improvement for the money

 

Buy other headphones. You only tried low end headphones. The HD650 is not worth it IMO. Why not get a true hi-end headphone?

 

Personally, I like the HD800 through an MP3 player more than the HD650 through an average set-up, but that may just be my preference towards more treble emphasis.

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post #23 of 28
12/23/10 at 10:40pm

How long were the auditions? Hearing changes drastically in the periods of a few hours. Even quicker if there are sudden changes in sound like volume or emphasis, increasing or decreasing sensitivity to certain frequencies. You may like one sound for an hour, then prefer the other the next. That's why I have two headphones. One bright and one smooth sounding.

 

Anyways that was just an example. It will definitely take longer than an hour to know whether you like a headphone. Also listening in a prime environment with less stimuli is best, such as a dark room.

 

BTW, I'm not trying to doubt your opinions. I'm just trying to help because you're dropping ALOT of dough from these impressions.


Edited by wind016 - 12/23/10 at 10:47pm
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post #24 of 28
12/23/10 at 10:47pm

i don't agree with this. i can tell in one song whether or not i'd like a certain headphone.
 

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post #25 of 28
12/23/10 at 10:57pm

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I'm not really a fan of treble emphasis. From my recent auditions of headphones, i have concluded i prefer the darker, more laid back sound of the HD650. I might look into the LCD-2s, although i feel pretty determined to get a HD650(i love its look).

 

If you like the HD650 that much and are determined to spend more money get the LCD-2, it is known around here as an HD650 on steroids and will outperform a fully-amplified HD650 out of just an iPod.


Edited by grokit - 12/23/10 at 11:11pm
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post #26 of 28
12/23/10 at 10:59pm
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Well, i'm planning to get my setup in stages. First, the Yulong D100 to use with my current headphones first, than the HD650. I'll be able to properly evaluate whether the HD650 has a sound signature i REALLY like before getting the beta22. Thanks for your concern, it's very much appreciated. I guess this thread has run its course. I'll probably be picking up either a beta22, or a price-equal tube amp like the Zana Deux once i figure out which type of amp, solid state or tube, that i'll prefer pairing the HD650 with.
 

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How long were the auditions? Hearing changes drastically in the periods of a few hours. Even quicker if there are sudden changes in sound like volume or emphasis, increasing or decreasing sensitivity to certain frequencies. You may like one sound for an hour, then prefer the other the next. That's why I have two headphones. One bright and one smooth sounding.

 

Anyways that was just an example. It will definitely take longer than an hour to know whether you like a headphone. Also listening in a prime environment with less stimuli is best, such as a dark room.

 

BTW, I'm not trying to doubt your opinions. I'm just trying to help because you're dropping ALOT of dough from these impressions.

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post #27 of 28
12/23/10 at 11:03pm

I'm not going to argue with you since the OP made his choice, so we'll just have to agree to disagree =)
 

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i don't agree with this. i can tell in one song whether or not i'd like a certain headphone.
 

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Originally Posted by wind016 View Post It will definitely take longer than an hour to know whether you like a headphone.

 
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post #28 of 28
12/24/10 at 4:44pm
Little Dot MKVI with HD-650 simply amazing . My little dot outperformed the wa22 and balancing act .
I know it sounds crazy but this is the truth . My friend had all 3 as well as WA 6 SE and the MKVI sounded more dynamic and detailed than all of the other ones out of a 20000$ source.
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