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post #16 of 66

Yesterday i gom my Klipsch X10i. Very, very nice sound overall, with fantastic base and they are extremly comfortable.

I came from Etymotic HF2 and the Klipsch are way better in every aspect.

post #17 of 66
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Klipsch sound like they've had fairly positive reviews, I get the impression that the q-jays are falling out of favor. I'm going to try the Grado's. Perhaps down the line I'll try the copper pros too. Still drooling over the thought of the Westone 4's....thanks for the help 

post #18 of 66

I would recommend the DBA-02s. I just bought a pair of Monster Turbines and I hear the Coppers are very similar. I found them to be very smooth sounding(Not Murky) but the bass kick, recessed highs and limited soundstage pushes me away. The DBA-02s on the other hand are quite balanced and clear. With proper EQ the DBA-02s can pick up a lot of bass and you can smooth the DBA-02s by turning down the treble. Again, I recommend the DBA-02s over a pair of Turbines but the DBA-02s have questionable build quality unlike the turbines.

post #19 of 66

Coppers are not like the regular Turbines.  They are most different of all the turbines.

post #20 of 66

Disregard my Turbine opinion then, but I still love my DBA-02s and I highly recommend them. On a side note, the DBA-02s don't need amping to sound great and improve little from amplifying. I know you are looking at that.

post #21 of 66
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Klipsch sound like they've had fairly positive reviews, I get the impression that the q-jays are falling out of favor. I'm going to try the Grado's. Perhaps down the line I'll try the copper pros too. Still drooling over the thought of the Westone 4's....thanks for the help 


If you go Grado get the GR10 not the 8.  The DBA's are the best of the lot not including the GR10 IMO.

post #22 of 66
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Klipsch sound like they've had fairly positive reviews, I get the impression that the q-jays are falling out of favor. I'm going to try the Grado's. Perhaps down the line I'll try the copper pros too. Still drooling over the thought of the Westone 4's....thanks for the help 


If you go Grado get the GR10 not the 8.  The DBA's are the best of the lot not including the GR10 IMO.



Seriously the DBA's are that good? I thought LFF was being vastly bombastic with his post.

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Klipsch sound like they've had fairly positive reviews, I get the impression that the q-jays are falling out of favor. I'm going to try the Grado's. Perhaps down the line I'll try the copper pros too. Still drooling over the thought of the Westone 4's....thanks for the help 


If you go Grado get the GR10 not the 8.  The DBA's are the best of the lot not including the GR10 IMO.



Seriously the DBA's are that good? I thought LFF was being vastly bombastic with his post.


So did I, I called shenanigans on him too.  I got my pair and he was RIGHT!  It is fit dependent though.  It's either thin and bass light or full and bass accurate w/ solid punch depending if you can mate them to your ears.  I'm a Monster MD user so I know my bass.  wink.gif

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Klipsch sound like they've had fairly positive reviews, I get the impression that the q-jays are falling out of favor. I'm going to try the Grado's. Perhaps down the line I'll try the copper pros too. Still drooling over the thought of the Westone 4's....thanks for the help 


If you go Grado get the GR10 not the 8.  The DBA's are the best of the lot not including the GR10 IMO.



Seriously the DBA's are that good? I thought LFF was being vastly bombastic with his post.


So did I, I called shenanigans on him too.  I got my pair and he was RIGHT!  It is fit dependent though.  It's either thin and bass light or full and bass accurate w/ solid punch depending if you can mate them to your ears.  I'm a Monster MD user so I know my bass.  wink.gif


 

Well, seems like another purchase in the future.

What tips would you recommend?

post #25 of 66
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Well, seems like another purchase in the future.

What tips would you recommend?


I'm all about the Klipsch oval gel biflanges on the DBA.  You can also adjust the insertion depth by not cramming the tip all the way down.  I use it to manage my canal imbalance between L and R.  I know Shane likes his trimmed Comply's.  I'm not a comply user so have nothing to offer on them.  I wear my DBAs closer to the Etys and Klipsch barrels rather than the Shure/SM3 type of flush housing and angled nozzle insertion.  Hope that makes sense.


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post #26 of 66
Thread Starter 

Hmm. The Klipsch earpieces fit on the DBA-02"s? Any comparison to a similar IEM like UM2's? I figured the DBA-02 had a similar signature with the dual armature... They are "reasonably priced" (funny how our definition is a bit skewed). 

 

Anaxilus- what's the preference with the Grado GR10's other than the treble extension it sounds as if they are a 'tweaked' GR8. For $100 more that didn't sound reasonable. Are they that much different? Have you tried the DBA's versus other dual armatures? My interest in the Grado's stemmed from the hybrid design. 

 

I have goofy shaped ears, but the Westone/Shure options fit me fairly well, though I haven't tried the "W" line. Those nozzles are supposed to be shorter.

 

Fischers are that good? 

 

so in summary..GR10 over GR8, DBA-02's if I can find them over the Coppers? Or is there still a strong lobby for the Coppers? 

 

I may have to dump my SM3's to pay for this escapade...

post #27 of 66
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on a side note- are the Klipsch x10's related to the Etymotics? Seem to be very similar in schools of thought/design. I doubt very much that Klipsch actually developed their own these days, a contracted design possibly? 

post #28 of 66

The Coppers have a very thick, textured sound to them, but the treble too recessed and not clear enough for my liking. I find the bass overwhelming as well. They are an excellent pair of headphones, and they are very strong technically, but the sound signature is not for everyone. If you like Grados, I suspect you wouldn't enjoy these as much as some of your other options.

post #29 of 66
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Hmm. The Klipsch earpieces fit on the DBA-02"s? Any comparison to a similar IEM like UM2's? I figured the DBA-02 had a similar signature with the dual armature... They are "reasonably priced" (funny how our definition is a bit skewed). 

 

Anaxilus- what's the preference with the Grado GR10's other than the treble extension it sounds as if they are a 'tweaked' GR8. For $100 more that didn't sound reasonable. Are they that much different? Have you tried the DBA's versus other dual armatures? My interest in the Grado's stemmed from the hybrid design. 

 

I have goofy shaped ears, but the Westone/Shure options fit me fairly well, though I haven't tried the "W" line. Those nozzles are supposed to be shorter.

 

Fischers are that good? 

 

so in summary..GR10 over GR8, DBA-02's if I can find them over the Coppers? Or is there still a strong lobby for the Coppers? 

 

I may have to dump my SM3's to pay for this escapade...


First, what about the SM3 makes you want to try something else?  Second, other than treble the GR10 has an aluminum housing I believe, I would need to go back and read to quote the other sonic differences.  Third, not sure about the UM2 you can ask Shane who got rid of his for the DBA.  The DBA is most similar to the CK10 in my listening but I coaxed more bass and fuller body out of my DBA.  CK10 bass goes a touch lower but isn't as full as the DBA to me plus the highs were too much as was the cost.  The Coppers have a case to be made but for me the highs could get fatiguing, mids less forward and dry, bass was good but quicker than my MD which I liked better.  Plus I got bored of the Coppers after 15-20 minutes.  Not as engaging as I would prefer.  Coppers are very good though if you don't hear them like I do which is possible as our ears are all different.  For ease of use, comfort and fit the Grados are awesome and easily one of my favorite IEM designs ever.  Hope that helps. 

post #30 of 66
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The Coppers have a very thick, textured sound to them, but the treble too recessed and not clear enough for my liking. I find the bass overwhelming as well. They are an excellent pair of headphones, and they are very strong technically, but the sound signature is not for everyone. If you like Grados, I suspect you wouldn't enjoy these as much as some of your other options.


Pull them out further and you will hear the treble and clarity.  Sounds like you inserted them too deep.  Treble flirts w/ sibilance more so than my Klipsch tipped DBA.

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