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post #25081 of 28866
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Originally Posted by RedStag View Post

Hi all,

 

I flipped through the last 10 or so pages of this thread but didn't see something specific to my needs, so figured I'd post.

 

Looking for headphones for use on my high-end gaming rig, and also suggestions on sound card vs. amp/DAC.

 

I prefer an immersive gaming experience, and do not require competitive positioning. I need headphones so I don't disturb my neighbors/roommate at night (NYC apartment building), but don't mind sound leakage at all as the walls are thick enough for that. As such, I've been enticed by open-backed headphones with the promise of a vast soundstage, but worry about the trade-off of bass that seems to come with it. Ideally I'm looking for something that retails for around $200 on Amazon, has an excellent, open soundstage, and doesn't sacrifice too much bass so when I blow things up, I really enjoy the experience.

 

So far I'm just completely stuck deciding between the following 5 cans: Beyerdynamic dt770 or dt990, Seinheiser HD 558 or HD 598, or maybe the AKG K702. Please let me know your thoughts on these or even if there is a pair I haven't considered.

 

For now, these would be plugged in to my motherboard's onboard sound, but I just know I will end up getting a sound card eventually (being a PC enthusiast, similar to an audio enthusiast, can be an addicting and expensive hobby!). Seems to me that the only two real options are the XONAR DX, Essence STX, or the SB Titanium HD, and I'm leaning towards the SB. Does it make sense to do this, or rather get an amp/DAC instead? Or will I need both a sound card AND amp to really power a nice pair of cans? Keep in mind I have absolutely zero portibility needs - these are specifically for my desktop computer.

 

Thanks for the help and I look forward to your input!

 

P.S. - Being a lurker on these forumns can make you pretentious about audio quality very quickly! dt880smile.png After just a few days of browsing, I find it impossible to ride the NYC subway anymore without scoffing at anyone using Beats or, even worse, default iPhone earbuds confused_face.gif


Your question is, as it pertains to cans, very specialized, and as it pertains to computer audio, off topic.

 

You'll probably get more and more helpful responses elsewhere on this forum (e.g. computer audio section) and/or on a forum that concentrates on computer gaming and audio.

post #25082 of 28866

I'm simply looking for something that sounds similar to the DT770 Pro, but is more portable, and is good for all types of music.
Budget is around $200
Didn't like Custom One Pro.
I have a cMoy BB V2.03

post #25083 of 28866
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Originally Posted by pro1137 View Post

I'm simply looking for something that sounds similar to the DT770 Pro, but is more portable, and is good for all types of music.
Budget is around $200
Didn't like Custom One Pro.
I have a cMoy BB V2.03


I haven't heard them, but MalVeauX has posted that he likes the M-Audio Studiophile Q40 with Beyer pads.

post #25084 of 28866

Looking for closed full size headphones for comfort reasons, though will consider smaller portable headphones

 

looking emphasized bass, headphones good with dance , electronic, pop, rock, etc

 

Looking at a price of around 200 - 500 USD
 

considering:

 

Beyerdynamic Custom Pro 1, Beyerdynamic DT 770,

AKG K550

audio technica pro700

fischer audio FA-011

Denon D400/D600

D2000/5000 (Less due to price increase)

Logitech UE6000

Sony XB900/X series (best buy model ) Build quality didn't seem great

Sony XB1000

Ultrasone Pro900

 

 


Edited by wredj10 - 2/20/13 at 2:43pm
post #25085 of 28866
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Originally Posted by FlobHobNob View Post

Get the dt770's my friend. They will not disappoint! 

 

But they are so freaking expensive, I only have €200 on my bank account :/

post #25086 of 28866
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Originally Posted by wredj10 View Post

Looking for closed full size headphones for comfort reasons, though will consider smaller portable headphones

 

looking emphasized bass, headphones good with dance , electronic, pop, rock, etc

 

Looking at a price of around 200 - 500 USD
 

considering:

 

Beyerdynamic Custom Pro 1, Beyerdynamic DT 770,

AKG K550

audio technica pro700

fischer audio FA-011

Denon D400/D600

D2000/5000 (Less due to price increase)

Logitech UE6000

Sony XB900/X series (best buy model ) Build quality didn't seem great

Sony XB1000

Ultrasone Pro900

 

 


That's a list of 10, make that 13, cans.  You need to cull your list down to 2 or 3.


Edited by KG Jag - 2/20/13 at 3:15pm
post #25087 of 28866
Hi I'm new to this.. Hope I'm at the wright place but am in need of help fixing my Sons headphones. They r Beats by Dr. Dre, black with red letter 'b' on both sides. Came with a red aux cord that connects to the left side. My problem is the slot that the red aux cord connects into on the headphones has been pushed into the ear piece . How can I take this apart ..or do I need a pro to do this an fix it?
Apologises if I've posted this in the wrong place... Never used these forums before.
post #25088 of 28866
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Originally Posted by Parsons View Post

Hi I'm new to this.. Hope I'm at the wright place but am in need of help fixing my Sons headphones. They r Beats by Dr. Dre, black with red letter 'b' on both sides. Came with a red aux cord that connects to the left side. My problem is the slot that the red aux cord connects into on the headphones has been pushed into the ear piece . How can I take this apart ..or do I need a pro to do this an fix it?
Apologises if I've posted this in the wrong place... Never used these forums before.

Hi

 

Sounds like you need to dismantle the pieces of the damaged side of your headphone so you can take out that broken part in  case you cannot just pull it out.

 

If the plastic around broke maybe you can fix it again with some epoxic glue, those ones that come in two little tubes that you mix and make a powerful plastic cement. But some plastics just dont have the chemistry to fusion, so, maybe worths a try?
 

post #25089 of 28866

Hi, I'm new here. I have heard the Sennheiser  HD 558 and I liked the sound of these open backed phones. I would like to know how much more a step up to the hd 598 would buy me. I am also curious to know more about the closed back Sennheiser Momentum model. This is because I do not plan to use an amp. At least not for a while. I plan on using a headphone for music of all types as well as listening to movies shown on the Kindle Fire HD 8.9". How much air and stage will I give up with the Momentum? I am well versed in audio with speakers but I am out of my element with phones. I am over 60 so my hearing is not what it was. There are a few holes in my hearing so I'm hoping my mind will fill in the gaps. :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.

post #25090 of 28866
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Originally Posted by Morpheas View Post

I'd love to push them more, they are the 250 Ohm pro version.

 

I'm doubting the E7+E9 is doing a good job, but I suppose i don't know if I should have something better for a sound card/DAC/amp etc

 

Upgrading your amp/dac will have little on no benefit.  Upgrade your headphones, that will dramatically change the signature, maybe for the better if you choose well. tongue.gif  Go plug them into some monster receiver (even at a hi-fi store if you have to), I bet you the improvement will be small compared to your fiio.

post #25091 of 28866
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Originally Posted by ngynaq View Post

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It seems like as I move up I get diminishing returns. If we imagine sound quality vs cost as a graph, I want to hit that point where I still get significant gains from my money just before the plateau occurs. I don't want to spend hundreds more for a very "small" improvement in quality that could be due to placebo or simply psychological compensation.

 

I'm also skeptical about "burn-in". I feel like it plays on "cognitive dissonance" - like you simply adapt and make do with what you purchased and enjoy it more (a well-studied and documented phenomenon). Having said all that, I'm still seeking opinion but what I'm really asking is what would you recommend that's significantly better and cost-effective - or are my Shure 840s already the plateau?

 

 

 

imo there are three headphones plateaus above the SRH840.  $250: SR225/DT880  $400: HD600  $700: HE500  They really tower over other headphones in their price range.  Beyond HE500 your price/quality graph flattens pretty steeply..

 

edit: oops, KG Jag said the same thing a couple of pages back.  Looks like we're in agreement. smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by eucariote - 2/20/13 at 5:03pm
post #25092 of 28866
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Originally Posted by docfletch View Post

Hi, I'm new here. I have heard the Sennheiser  HD 558 and I liked the sound of these open backed phones. I would like to know how much more a step up to the hd 598 would buy me. I am also curious to know more about the closed back Sennheiser Momentum model. This is because I do not plan to use an amp. At least not for a while. I plan on using a headphone for music of all types as well as listening to movies shown on the Kindle Fire HD 8.9". How much air and stage will I give up with the Momentum? I am well versed in audio with speakers but I am out of my element with phones. I am over 60 so my hearing is not what it was. There are a few holes in my hearing so I'm hoping my mind will fill in the gaps. :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.


They use the same drive and they sound somewhat similar.  There is well known and documented tape removal mod to the 558 that makes it sound even more like the 598.

 

Read Jude's review of the Momentum linked a couple pages back.  In short the Momentum is a semi-bassy, semi-lifestyle can that is for the main stream portable device step up buyer.  The real thing for most more serious/critical listeners is the Amperior.

post #25093 of 28866
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Originally Posted by eucariote View Post

 

imo there are three headphones plateaus above the SRH840.  $250: SR225/DT880  $400: HD600  $700: HE500  They really tower over other headphones in their price range.  Beyond HE500 your price/quality graph flattens pretty steeply..

 

edit: oops, KG Jag said the same thing a couple of pages back.  Looks like we're in agreement. smily_headphones1.gif

 

these are open cans....popcorn.gif  

post #25094 of 28866
Looking to buy my first pair. I'm 3 hours from any audio daler who stocks the big names... So I will be purchasing without a demo.

Thinking of the the Grado 125 and 225's. Will be using them with an accuphase preamp, adcom amp, rega TT and with an adapter to my iPhone and Galaxy S3. Listen to classic rock, blues and jazz.

Important to me:
Soundstage
Comfort
Durability

Any advice for the newbie would be appreciated.
post #25095 of 28866
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by eucariote View Post

 

imo there are three headphones plateaus above the SRH840.  $250: SR225/DT880  $400: HD600  $700: HE500  They really tower over other headphones in their price range.  Beyond HE500 your price/quality graph flattens pretty steeply..

 

edit: oops, KG Jag said the same thing a couple of pages back.  Looks like we're in agreement. smily_headphones1.gif

 

these are open cans....popcorn.gif  


And so are the AKG-Q701, Sen HD650 and HD800, which he said he was considering when he posted.  Other than being hungry for popcorn, I don't your point.

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