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post #9316 of 29490

Hello everyone,

 

I like many else found myself in trouble choosing the best headphones for me.

I am looking good headphones under 200$.

 

I will use them for listening music ( mostly rock, metal, hip hop...sometimes other genres as well)

It doesn't matter for me if they are open or closed because i will use them in my room so whichever are better :)

Could you people who are more experienced that me help me out?

 

I was looking on something like Sennheiser hd515 or hd558, or maybe AKG 242HD or is out there anything better?

 

PS: i currently using Sennheiser HD201 (wasn't really impressed with it, but for the money they're not bad), but they can be used as reference :)

 

thanks

post #9317 of 29490
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post



I haven't listened to the DT770 in ages, but I really like the HD 598 for the price. It's not going to have as much bottom-end bass weight as the DT770 though. The clarity is really nice. Spacious and detailed. Just not the best if you want a ton of bass.


That's why I'm confused, it's hard to say if the "lack" of bass of the 598 is a real bad point in gaming. I think that in a few months I will invest in the Mixamp, perhaps it can be another clue to make my choice.

 

post #9318 of 29490

 

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That's why I'm confused, it's hard to say if the "lack" of bass of the 598 is a real bad point in gaming. I think that in a few months I will invest in the Mixamp, perhaps it can be another clue to make my choice.

 


It all depends on your preferences. Do you usually like bass in your music? Generally I find people like bass for their games, just to give it a more visceral feel. The problem is detail is also important in games, being able to pinpoint the location of things spacially by audio cues and hearing small things and whatnot. A lot of bass heavy cans won't be as detailed or crisp as open designs like the HD 598.

 

Have you seen the Beyerdynamic DT 1350? I throw that one out as a recommendation a lot, as it's small and sounds really detailed, but has a good amount of bass. Their tiny size is deceptive.

 

Aside from that, the Denon D2000 is traditionally considered a good gamer headphone. As are Ultrasone HFI and PRO lines.

post #9319 of 29490
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It all depends on your preferences. Do you usually like bass in your music? Generally I find people like bass for their games, just to give it a more visceral feel. The problem is detail is also important in games, being able to pinpoint the location of things spacially by audio cues and hearing small things and whatnot. A lot of bass heavy cans won't be as detailed or crisp as open designs like the HD 598.

 

Have you seen the Beyerdynamic DT 1350? I throw that one out as a recommendation a lot, as it's small and sounds really detailed, but has a good amount of bass. Their tiny size is deceptive.

 

Aside from that, the Denon D2000 is traditionally considered a good gamer headphone. As are Ultrasone HFI and PRO lines.


I didn't look at the DT 1350 or the others models you are talking about. The point is that they are a bit to expensive. tongue.gif

 

The HD 598 seems to be the good one, even if I like bass in game for the reasons you know. What about the PC360 in front of the 598 ?

 

 

post #9320 of 29490

Mids wise, I'd definitely say go for a pair of Grados.  IMO, the SR-60i makes an excellent open portable headphone.  Ultrasones and Denons aren't exactly known for their mids.  They are known for their lack of however.  I'd say go for the SR-60i.  It doesn't really need amplification unlike the SR-80i in which I would suggest amplification.  The Grados with the comfy pads are actually pretty comfy.  You can easily wear them for over an hour if you need to.
 

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Hey guys I'm having a hard time deciding between these 3 cans:

 

 

Ultrasone HFI-780

Denon DNHP700

Grado sr60/80(difference?)

 

My preference is neutral/lows with a boost in midrange. Durability is my main concern, the denons are built like dj headphones so no worries there, but I am not sure about the ultrasones and grados. Comfort does not matter much as these pair will be on the go for at max 1 hour commutes.

 

If they're are any other options then closed or open is fine, slight preference on closed.

 

 

 

One more thing I adore sound stage but it have no clue as to their sound stages.



 

post #9321 of 29490

I'd prefer the HD598.  I use the HD595 with the Asus Xonar DS.  They make a pretty good combo, but I would definitely use amplification.  If you have a receiver, they work very well for amplifying the HD598.  The only thing you have to do is get a separate microphone if you need one.
 

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Hi there,

 

Even if this kind of "guidance" was asked many times, I'm triying my chance. rolleyes.gif

 

I'm looking for "gaming headphones", as I have my Hi-Fi station for music and films.

 

I don't want to buy a new card for now, and I have an Audiotrack HD2 AE which is amazing for my Hi-Fi installation and music.

I'm on something like 150~200€.

 

So, for you, which headphones are the best for gaming on this price and such a sound card ? (my firsts conclusions are on the HD558/598, PC360 and DT770 250Ω).

 

Thanks ! tongue.gif



 

post #9322 of 29490

 

I second the Grados for mids. The only issue is soundstage, since you say that's important. They aren't exactly known for expansiveness. The Ultrasones would be the best between the three for that.



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I didn't look at the DT 1350 or the others models you are talking about. The point is that they are a bit to expensive. tongue.gif

 

The HD 598 seems to be the good one, even if I like bass in game for the reasons you know. What about the PC360 in front of the 598 ?

 

 


I'm not familiar with the PC360. The HD 598 is a pretty safe bet though, imo.

 

post #9323 of 29490
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I'd prefer the HD598.  I use the HD595 with the Asus Xonar DS.  They make a pretty good combo, but I would definitely use amplification.  If you have a receiver, they work very well for amplifying the HD598.  The only thing you have to do is get a separate microphone if you need one.
 



 


What do you mean by a "receiver" ? Actually I'm using a Audiotrak HD 2 as wrote in my first post, do you think it will be enought to enjoy the 598 at its best ?

 



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I'm not familiar with the PC360. The HD 598 is a pretty safe bet though, imo.

 


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post #9324 of 29490

On the go, the external noise kills soundstage to begin with.  I would have figured the Denons for the largest soundstage though.
 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

 

I second the Grados for mids. The only issue is soundstage, since you say that's important. They aren't exactly known for expansiveness. The Ultrasones would be the best between the three for that.


I'm not familiar with the PC360. The HD 598 is a pretty safe bet though, imo.

 

 

I would suggest you get an amp.  You would be pretty disappointed without one.  If you want decent amounts of bass and impact, you really need an amp for the HD598.

 

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Originally Posted by TBag View Post


What do you mean by a "receiver" ? Actually I'm using a Audiotrak HD 2 as wrote in my first post, do you think it will be enought to enjoy the 598 at its best ?

 


wink.gif

 

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On the go, the external noise kills soundstage to begin with.  I would have figured the Denons for the largest soundstage though.
 

 



External noise is going to be most problematic with an open headphone. And as far as Ultrasones go, they're pretty hit or miss when it comes to their soundstage. Some people can detect S-Logic a lot better than others. Denons would probably be a safer bet without demoing them first.

post #9326 of 29490
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

 

I would suggest you get an amp.  You would be pretty disappointed without one.  If you want decent amounts of bass and impact, you really need an amp for the HD598.

 

 



As I wrote before, I'm planning to buy a Mixamp in order to enjoy great surround effects in game. Do you know if such an "amp" is able to drive the 598 ?

post #9327 of 29490
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

On the go, the external noise kills soundstage to begin with.  I would have figured the Denons for the largest soundstage though.
 

 

I would suggest you get an amp.  You would be pretty disappointed without one.  If you want decent amounts of bass and impact, you really need an amp for the HD598.

 

 



Sorry for hijacking the post and being slightly OT, but i'm about to buy a pair of Sennheiser HD598, and i'm looking for a good cheap amp. Will this one fit?

 

http://www.ebay.it/itm/170618154158?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

post #9328 of 29490

I haven't used the Mixamp.  Being a smaller amp, it may not be powerful enough to get a lot of bass, but I think it would work fine for the most part.
 

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As I wrote before, I'm planning to buy a Mixamp in order to enjoy great surround effects in game. Do you know if such an "amp" is able to drive the 598 ?


I completely agree with this.

 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

External noise is going to be most problematic with an open headphone. And as far as Ultrasones go, they're pretty hit or miss when it comes to their soundstage. Some people can detect S-Logic a lot better than others. Denons would probably be a safer bet without demoing them first.


Yeah, those single tube amps on Ebay would drive the HD598s very well.  I'd say go for it.  I built one similar myself.  I very much like the warm tone.  Great for vocals and classic rock.

 

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Originally Posted by c4p3fi3rr View Post



Sorry for hijacking the post and being slightly OT, but i'm about to buy a pair of Sennheiser HD598, and i'm looking for a good cheap amp. Will this one fit?

 

http://www.ebay.it/itm/170618154158?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649



 

post #9329 of 29490

Thanks a lot for your answers guys, asking about the HD 598s seem common around here. So on the last page there was a bit of talk of driving the 598s and I'm just wondering if someone could go a little more in-depth?

 

For example, what differences will i notice between the Xonar DG, Astro gaming mixamp pro/5.8 and the Xonar STX when listening and playing on the computer? The obvious downside of course is that I can't bring a soundcard with me, but it's mainly for my computer anyway.

 

 

I'm asking because the prices between these amps differ greatly. Thanks again for helping me out!

post #9330 of 29490

Those are DACs, not amps.  The Xonar STX has a built in amp, and so does the mixamp.  But for the most part, those are DACs.  I'd suggest getting the Xonar STX as a simple all in one solution.  I have the Xonar DS with an upgraded op amp as my DAC.
 

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Originally Posted by RonnyBb View Post

Thanks a lot for your answers guys, asking about the HD 598s seem common around here. So on the last page there was a bit of talk of driving the 598s and I'm just wondering if someone could go a little more in-depth?

 

For example, what differences will i notice between the Xonar DG, Astro gaming mixamp pro/5.8 and the Xonar STX when listening and playing on the computer? The obvious downside of course is that I can't bring a soundcard with me, but it's mainly for my computer anyway.

 

 

I'm asking because the prices between these amps differ greatly. Thanks again for helping me out!



 

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