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Originally Posted by theguatemalian View Post

Ok so I've come to a deadlock between 2 headphones I really like both in the way people describe the sound but since they are either modded or equalized I need opinions because there's no way I can listen instore to these sadly.

 

For the last few days, I've sat to analyze my musical tastes and I came to the conclusion that eventhough my electronic music collection is vast I listen almost exclusively to the full spectrum of rock subgenres, more punk and 

 

So now I'm down to two headphones.

 

SHure SRH940 Equalized to play bass better for more rock genres I assume it would only suffer for metal.(I'm not a basshead so I prefer being able to adjust bass up instead of having to bring it down anyway)

 

Or

 

Alessandro MS1i with 4 holes in the driver and MS1000 mod with wood cups

 

Which do you think would be better for rock, acoustic, and vocals, with the very occasional bassy song pop/electronic (I'm talking maybe 1-2 songs per hour of listening)

 

Thanks guys


I'm not sure about the Alessandros but I have the 940's and I really enjoy their sound signature, emphasized highs and mids. If you need more info about the 940's, my review for them is in my signature.

 

post #7772 of 29490
Quote:
Originally Posted by theguatemalian View Post

Ok so I've come to a deadlock between 2 headphones I really like both in the way people describe the sound but since they are either modded or equalized I need opinions because there's no way I can listen instore to these sadly.

 

For the last few days, I've sat to analyze my musical tastes and I came to the conclusion that eventhough my electronic music collection is vast I listen almost exclusively to the full spectrum of rock subgenres, more punk and 

 

So now I'm down to two headphones.

 

SHure SRH940 Equalized to play bass better for more rock genres I assume it would only suffer for metal.(I'm not a basshead so I prefer being able to adjust bass up instead of having to bring it down anyway)

 

Or

 

Alessandro MS1i with 4 holes in the driver and MS1000 mod with wood cups

 

Which do you think would be better for rock, acoustic, and vocals, with the very occasional bassy song pop/electronic (I'm talking maybe 1-2 songs per hour of listening)

 

Thanks guys


Well I'll go against the grain here.  I've owned both - still own the MS1i.

 

Modding the MS1i is not difficult.  I basically had no experience at all.  Now mine have new cups (aluminium), new pads (bowls), a better headband - and they sound fantastic.

 

Here's some pros / cons (just my opinion OK - general opinion is pretty divided on the SRH940):

 

MS1i (with a small bit of modding)

* cheaper - but you'll have added cost for extras (bowls, cups etc)

* open - they leak sound in and out - no good if isolation is required

* sound is very 'in your face' - they excel at rock, blues, punk etc - aggressive and fun

* stage is not large - it's like you're up there with the band (actually on-stage, or just in front row) - but that is why they are so good for rock IMO

* after mods, bass for me is punchy and visceral, mids are warm and wonderful, highs are bright - but not excessive

* can be driven easily - sound great even out of an iPod

* comfort can be an issue - they are 'on-ear' and it takes time to get used to them.  I'm at the point now where 3-4 hours is fine.

 

SRH940

* more expensive - but you don't need to mod - IMO you will need to EQ

* closed - isolation is reasonably good - can be used in moderately noisy environments

* accessories are great - including carry case, spare pads and 2 choices of cable (detachable)

* sound stage is a little more distant and airy (not a bad sound stage - actually quite good for a closed can).

* velour pads are circumaural, and quite comfortable - but I found the headband to be irritating, and uncomfortable after time - YMMV.

* highs/mids are definitely the focus.  Extremely detailed - but I found the highs almost dry.  Surprisingly no sibilance.

* mids are simply wonderful - very warm - definitely the main focus here

* bass extends well, and is very well defined - but there is a dip in the mid-bass that for me sounds completely unnatural

* IMO - great for jazz, female vocals, acoustic - but sounded "off/unnatural" for most classic rock I listened to 

* can be driven easily - but responds really well to amplification

 

I have the HD600 now - and for they correct everything that was wrong (for me) with the SRH940 - especially overall comfort and balance.  But for pure enjoyment of rock and blues, most of the time I still use my Alessandros.  They are dynamic, fun and just excel at that type of genre - and I don't have to rely on EQ.  The main reason I sold the SRH940 in the end was that for me (with the mid-bass dip), rock was the one very large genre that they did not do at all well.

post #7773 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

 

 

Your music tastes are somewhat similar to mine. I listen to a lot of jazzy big band stuff, but also a bunch of chillout electronica. My favourite headphones are:

Pioneer HDJ-2000 (which I also modded), no amp needed

AKG K240 Sextett from a Bottlehead Crack amp 

 

Where does one buy Sextett's? Does anyone else have any options I can look into?
post #7774 of 29490
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Originally Posted by theguatemalian View Post

Ok so I've come to a deadlock between 2 headphones I really like both in the way people describe the sound but since they are either modded or equalized I need opinions because there's no way I can listen instore to these sadly.

 

For the last few days, I've sat to analyze my musical tastes and I came to the conclusion that eventhough my electronic music collection is vast I listen almost exclusively to the full spectrum of rock subgenres, more punk and 

 

So now I'm down to two headphones.

 

SHure SRH940 Equalized to play bass better for more rock genres I assume it would only suffer for metal.(I'm not a basshead so I prefer being able to adjust bass up instead of having to bring it down anyway)

 

Or

 

Alessandro MS1i with 4 holes in the driver and MS1000 mod with wood cups

 

Which do you think would be better for rock, acoustic, and vocals, with the very occasional bassy song pop/electronic (I'm talking maybe 1-2 songs per hour of listening)

 

Thanks guys


Assuming costs wind up being the same... do you need open or closed? That should be a pretty big determining factor.

 



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Originally Posted by Tomppa View Post

Well I'm not really impressed with the build quality of the Portapros either, I'm expecting a little better. Portapros were under 30€, PX100 II almost 50€. This does leave me with a little more to spend. 558 would be 137€ and I can get the MS-1i for ~100€.

 

How would the 558 be better than MS-1i? I would expect the Sennheisers to have even weaker bass, am I right?

 

See if you can find a used 555 for cheaper. The Senns have more bass than the MS1.



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Originally Posted by Joqur View Post


Where does one buy Sextett's? Does anyone else have any options I can look into?


They stopped production a couple decades. You have to buy them of the sale forums here or ebay or similar.

 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Assuming costs wind up being the same... do you need open or closed? That should be a pretty big determining factor.

 

 

 



It doesnt matter i'm never in an environment where it matters, even if I'm at the campus library I usually take a cubicle I can make noise to my hearts content since they have noise cancelling insulation on the walls, doors etc.

 

Edit: Thanks for other responses it still leaves me in a deadlock sort've though the Alessandros ar every tempting, but the clarity and closedness of the shures are tempting too. Maybe a Shure SRH840 using the equalizer to atenuate the midbass hump with be a good middle ground??


Edited by theguatemalian - 10/2/11 at 3:31pm
post #7776 of 29490
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Originally Posted by theguatemalian View Post

 

It doesnt matter i'm never in an environment where it matters, even if I'm at the campus library I usually take a cubicle I can make noise to my hearts content since they have noise cancelling insulation on the walls, doors etc.

 

Edit: Thanks for other responses it still leaves me in a deadlock sort've though the Alessandros ar every tempting, but the clarity and closedness of the shures are tempting too. Maybe a Shure SRH840 using the equalizer to atenuate the midbass hump with be a good middle ground??


For mainly rock based, I'd still take the Alessandros - is there anyone local who can at least give you a listen?

 

The SRH840 are pretty safe - they do all genres pretty well IMO - more balanced and realistic sounding than the 940's.  The mid-bass hump just makes the bass on some tracks seem a little 'bloomy' - should be able to EQ to correct it with no problems.

 

post #7777 of 29490

Hey thanks for the help, i play FPS games competitive sometimes, doesnt matter to me though if there is some bass in it.

I also play singleplayer games alot too though was kinda looking for a balanced headphone i guess.

I've heard they beyer's have decent bass but not overpowering,not sure how true that is though lol.

Still trying to decide i should go ahead and get the beyer's, or if there are anymore i should be looking at,still open to suggestions.

post #7778 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Redimere View Post

Hey thanks for the help, i play FPS games competitive sometimes, doesnt matter to me though if there is some bass in it.

I also play singleplayer games alot too though was kinda looking for a balanced headphone i guess.

I've heard they beyer's have decent bass but not overpowering,not sure how true that is though lol.

Still trying to decide i should go ahead and get the beyer's, or if there are anymore i should be looking at,still open to suggestions.


If you go with a Beyer, the DT880 is the most balanced one and more suitable for gaming. For competitive stuff, you generally want both good soundstage and a clean midrange without too much bass or treble overpowering. This is generally why the Audio Technica AD700 is recommended all the time for gaming.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by theguatemalian View Post

Ok so I've come to a deadlock between 2 headphones I really like both in the way people describe the sound but since they are either modded or equalized I need opinions because there's no way I can listen instore to these sadly.

 

For the last few days, I've sat to analyze my musical tastes and I came to the conclusion that eventhough my electronic music collection is vast I listen almost exclusively to the full spectrum of rock subgenres, more punk and 

 

So now I'm down to two headphones.

 

SHure SRH940 Equalized to play bass better for more rock genres I assume it would only suffer for metal.(I'm not a basshead so I prefer being able to adjust bass up instead of having to bring it down anyway)

 

Or

 

Alessandro MS1i with 4 holes in the driver and MS1000 mod with wood cups

 

Which do you think would be better for rock, acoustic, and vocals, with the very occasional bassy song pop/electronic (I'm talking maybe 1-2 songs per hour of listening)

 

Thanks guys


Well I'll go against the grain here.  I've owned both - still own the MS1i.

 

Modding the MS1i is not difficult.  I basically had no experience at all.  Now mine have new cups (aluminium), new pads (bowls), a better headband - and they sound fantastic.

 

Here's some pros / cons (just my opinion OK - general opinion is pretty divided on the SRH940):

 

MS1i (with a small bit of modding)

* cheaper - but you'll have added cost for extras (bowls, cups etc)

* open - they leak sound in and out - no good if isolation is required

* sound is very 'in your face' - they excel at rock, blues, punk etc - aggressive and fun

* stage is not large - it's like you're up there with the band (actually on-stage, or just in front row) - but that is why they are so good for rock IMO

* after mods, bass for me is punchy and visceral, mids are warm and wonderful, highs are bright - but not excessive

* can be driven easily - sound great even out of an iPod

* comfort can be an issue - they are 'on-ear' and it takes time to get used to them.  I'm at the point now where 3-4 hours is fine.

 

SRH940

* more expensive - but you don't need to mod - IMO you will need to EQ

* closed - isolation is reasonably good - can be used in moderately noisy environments

* accessories are great - including carry case, spare pads and 2 choices of cable (detachable)

* sound stage is a little more distant and airy (not a bad sound stage - actually quite good for a closed can).

* velour pads are circumaural, and quite comfortable - but I found the headband to be irritating, and uncomfortable after time - YMMV.

* highs/mids are definitely the focus.  Extremely detailed - but I found the highs almost dry.  Surprisingly no sibilance.

* mids are simply wonderful - very warm - definitely the main focus here

* bass extends well, and is very well defined - but there is a dip in the mid-bass that for me sounds completely unnatural

* IMO - great for jazz, female vocals, acoustic - but sounded "off/unnatural" for most classic rock I listened to 

* can be driven easily - but responds really well to amplification

 

I have the HD600 now - and for they correct everything that was wrong (for me) with the SRH940 - especially overall comfort and balance.  But for pure enjoyment of rock and blues, most of the time I still use my Alessandros.  They are dynamic, fun and just excel at that type of genre - and I don't have to rely on EQ.  The main reason I sold the SRH940 in the end was that for me (with the mid-bass dip), rock was the one very large genre that they did not do at all well.


HD6xx/MS-1i combo + entry level Audio-GD amp/dac is pretty damn hard to beat as a bang for buck rig imo.
post #7780 of 29490

Got a question here for my bros in this thread. 

 

If I want the most revealing, critical headphone I can get...what is it?

 

DT 880? K70x?

post #7781 of 29490
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post


HD6xx/MS-1i combo + entry level Audio-GD amp/dac is pretty damn hard to beat as a bang for buck rig imo.


Thanks olor1n.  Going to Woody the MS1is - and probably get an entry level desktop tube (LD MkIII or MkIV) sometime over the next 12 months - then after that I'm pretty much done for a couple of years.   The current combo does absolutely everything I want at this moment in time.  Probably spent a  little more on beginner level than I could have - but the journey has been worth it so far.  If I hadn't I think I'd be questioning what I have now.  At the moment I'm not.  Alessandro for rock and blues (actually it's great for most genres really) and the HD600 for just relaxing in the evening.

 

One of the nice things about the current set-up is the addition of the PortaTube.  That powers the HD600 easily, and works really well with the MS1is as well (nice synergy).  Great for those indoor lazy days - and also if I'm out of town in the evenings.

 

Very happy with my current setup, and just enjoying the music biggrin.gif

post #7782 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

They stopped production a couple decades. You have to buy them of the sale forums here or ebay or similar.

Are there some suggestions a bit more convenient than that?
Edited by Joqur - 10/2/11 at 6:20pm
post #7783 of 29490
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Got a question here for my bros in this thread. 

 

If I want the most revealing, critical headphone I can get...what is it?

 

DT 880? K70x?


That would depend on your budget. While the DT880 is quite detailed there are some phones I've heard that exceeds it in detail although it costs considerably more.

 

post #7784 of 29490

I'm looking for a set of headphones from B&H photo (when shipping to Canada they seem to give the best deal) and have a budget of ~$100. I just wanted with decent bass and minimal sound leakage. Any recommendations would be awesome.

post #7785 of 29490

Looking for a flat and revealing as possible headphone to pair with my upcoming Phonitor for critical monitoring.

 

Price is no object. Gimme the best of the best that makes things sound their worst.
 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post




That would depend on your budget. While the DT880 is quite detailed there are some phones I've heard that exceeds it in detail although it costs considerably more.

 



 

 

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