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Originally Posted by sexiewasd View Post

The Budget:

    Not enough for what I need all at once.  I have around $300 extra per month to spend on audio for the next few months, then more after that, so things will need to be bought separately.

 

The Situation:

    I had a pair of Pioneer HDJ-1000's that I've been using for a few years now, Some J-B weld fixed the snapping in half problem that they had, but the sound just isn't good anymore and they are still not comfortable, so all I really have to use now is my gaming headset which is really excellent at being comfortable and exaggerating footsteps and bombs being defused, but that's really not what I'm looking to do.

 

The Needs:

    Two needs really, well ok, one" need" and a "really want".

 

    First I need a set of headphones for tracking drums/percussion and acoustic+electric guitar and vocals, and keyboard.  Since all of those instruments (except the keyboard) are being mic'ed I'm thinking that I need something closed, lightweight, comfortable, good isolation, with a "fast attack"  (low group delay?), anyway something that has that percussive drum feel somewhere in it.

 

    Second (the want) I want/need a set of open back circumaural headphones for mixing and also for just listening, and gaming (but not multiplayer).  The most important thing is that I want a huge soundstage, the bigger the better.  I prefer a flat response for the low and mid range (should still extend to 20hz or lower), but a peek higher up so things like bells, whistles, cymbals, and Vitas sound sharp.

 

I think that I may need an amp as well, but really I have no clue on this, I'll be using these with various things, mostly with my zoom r24 interface, but also direct to a Yamaha p95 keyboard, and a Pioneer VSX-D412 receiver at the computer.

 

The Problem:

    I can't try any out before I buy them so I'm stuck reading comparison reviews and that's not really getting me very far very quickly, I'm still confused as to what I need.  So far as I can tell the Sennheiser HD598's would be a good match for the open back set, but I don't know if there is a better option out there, especially since they are just that ugly (I'll still buy them if it's what is right sound wise, because I know my taste is a bit off. (I think the AKG q701 are some of the best looking)) For the closed back I really don't know, I'm looking for sound at least as detailed and isolated as the HDJ-1000's but more comfort and lighter.

 

Does anyone care to make some suggestions for me? 

 

 



#1: Sennheiser HD25-1-ii: small and portable, very good isolation, clamps kinda tight so comfort is hard to gauge for others, definitely a "fast attack" kind of sound with lots of kick to it. More expensive, also strongly consider the Beyerdynamic DT1350. Isolation is on par, more comfortable (for me), sound is a little dryer with faster decay, but lacks the kick of the HD25-1-ii which is could go either way on the good/bad spectrum. 


 

#2: I really can't think of any open backed headphone that has a flat response down to 20Hz except maybe the expensive orthos (or less expensive but requires work on your part, a modded Fostex T50RP). If you can live with a bit of rolloff, the AKG K701 or Audio Technica AD900/1000/2000

 

The Fostex and AKG want a little more power than the others, but a receiver should be adequate for any of them. 

 

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Originally Posted by phantomz View Post

Budget = Under $500

Here's my listening preference:

Hip-Hop = 50%
The rest* = 50%
*includes in order Electronic,Pop,Rock,Orchestra (film soundtracks)

My current source is my Zune HD and my computer. I will eventually buy an AMP and DAC so if you recommend a headphone that needs to be amped that's ok.

In order of importance:
1. Balanced sound since I listen to a variety of music. I don't like bass heavy headphones.
2. Comfort (I don't want head fatigue or listening fatigue)
Open or closed is fine with me

The only headphones I'm familiar with is the Sennheiser PX-100 and the UE Super 5 Pro. I'm open to any suggestions. Right now I'm leaning towards the HD600 or HD650, but I would need to listen to them first before deciding.

Thanks!


The HD600/650 need an amp to really come alive. I say get the 600 and spend the rest of the money on an amp or dac/amp. 

 

post #6917 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

 

#2: I really can't think of any open backed headphone that has a flat response down to 20Hz except maybe the expensive orthos (or less expensive but requires work on your part, a modded Fostex T50RP). If you can live with a bit of rolloff, the AKG K701 or Audio Technica AD900/1000/2000

 


 

 

Yea I didn't mean flat to 20Hz, but useable at reasonable volume levels.  I would be happy with anything less than 5db rolloff @ 50hz so long as it rolls off predictably below that. I'm really thinking that the akg701's are going to be it do you know of an affordable ($200ish) amp I could pair it with that would be decent for mixing?

 

Edited by sexiewasd - 9/5/11 at 8:33pm
post #6918 of 29490

Budget: <$200

Music: Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Industrial Metal

Sources: Unamped from Zune HD (traveling) and primarily from Foobar2k > NuForce uDac2

Requirements:  Closed cans or ones with significantly less sound leakage than my woodied open back SR60i's

 

I recently woodified my SR60i's and really like the sound more than stock for almost all types of music (acoustic, old Johnny Cash etc) but the wood really sounds bad for Metal (my primary genre) compared to stock.  Seperation is better but the highs are piercing and just too much to handle.

 

I'd like something comfortable for long listening sessions (SR60's fail here) and could possibly go over $200 if my sources won't hold them back.

post #6919 of 29490
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Originally Posted by sexiewasd View Post

Yea I didn't mean flat to 20Hz, but useable at reasonable volume levels.  I would be happy with anything less than 5db rolloff @ 50hz so long as it rolls off predictably below that. I'm really thinking that the akg701's are going to be it do you know of an affordable ($200ish) amp I could pair it with that would be decent for mixing?

 


The FiiO e9 seems to be a popular matchup for the K701 on the forums. Not bad at only $120 (or $200 when paired with the e7). 

 



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Originally Posted by tool462 View Post

Budget: <$200

Music: Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Industrial Metal

Sources: Unamped from Zune HD (traveling) and primarily from Foobar2k > NuForce uDac2

Requirements:  Closed cans or ones with significantly less sound leakage than my woodied open back SR60i's

 

I recently woodified my SR60i's and really like the sound more than stock for almost all types of music (acoustic, old Johnny Cash etc) but the wood really sounds bad for Metal (my primary genre) compared to stock.  Seperation is better but the highs are piercing and just too much to handle.

 

I'd like something comfortable for long listening sessions (SR60's fail here) and could possibly go over $200 if my sources won't hold them back.


I think the Senn HD25-1-ii are quite good for metal, though with the strong clamp they might not be the most comfortable. 

 

The Audio Technica M50 or Shure 550 could do, or perhaps the Sony V6 or maybe ZX700. 

 

post #6920 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Vheissu View Post


Hey. So I'm looking for a set of portable headphones for wearing when I'm outside. These headphones will be used for music only, and I'll be listening to mostly house, hip-hop and metal. Bass and an "in your head" sound are important.

 

So far I'm interested in the Ultrasone DJ1-Pro, 


 

I have the DJ1 PRO, I wouldn't recommend it as a portable headphone. They actually very big, they are close to 10cm wide. Not to mention its not the most secure headphone on the planet (No huge head movements for me triportsad.gif) but at home, I love the sound stage on them, and they respond ok to EQ

post #6921 of 29490
Hi,
I have a question, and i didn't find any answer about that, can I plug my headphones directly to the DAC without an amp between them ?
post #6922 of 29490

Yes... although there's no guarantee that they'll sound any good. Which dac are you using? Some have built in amp circuitry, while others are supposed to only be used as lineout devices and will not have sufficient power supply or low enough output impedance to drive headphones properly. 

post #6923 of 29490

need to choose between ad700 or sennheiser 500 series (probably 595, or 555)

 

my preference is gaming, also im playing on a laptop, do i need an external soundcard/ amp to get full benefits from my headphones?

 

thx guys! much love and respect

post #6924 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Yes... although there's no guarantee that they'll sound any good. Which dac are you using? Some have built in amp circuitry, while others are supposed to only be used as lineout devices and will not have sufficient power supply or low enough output impedance to drive headphones properly. 


I will use (im getting it today) the Musical Fidelity V-DAC, which has stereo rca for output but I'm thinking getting some rca to jack cable in order to use it.
post #6925 of 29490
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Originally Posted by aTlantiz View Post

need to choose between ad700 or sennheiser 500 series (probably 595, or 555)

 

my preference is gaming, also im playing on a laptop, do i need an external soundcard/ amp to get full benefits from my headphones?

 

thx guys! much love and respect


Both the AD700 and HD555 are great for gaming (and the 555 is easily modded into the 595 by removing a foam patch in the cup). The AD700 are a little more spacious, leaner in the bass, more comfortable but less secure on the head. The HD555 has a bit more bass, slightly smaller stage, stronger clamp on your head. 

 

post #6926 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Puranti View Post



I will use (im getting it today) the Musical Fidelity V-DAC, which has stereo rca for output but I'm thinking getting some rca to jack cable in order to use it.


Not recommended. While I don't know the exact output specs, line outs are meant to drive inputs that typically rate over 10k ohm, and also likely will not be able to supply enough current into a headphone without clipping/distorting badly. Depending on how the drivers work, you also may not have volume control. 

 

If you want to plug headphones in directly, you should consider getting a combo dac/amp unit rather than just the dac. Or in the meantime, just get a simple cmoy or a Behringer headphone amp for cheap. 

post #6927 of 29490
Ok thanks for the info !
post #6928 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




Both the AD700 and HD555 are great for gaming (and the 555 is easily modded into the 595 by removing a foam patch in the cup). The AD700 are a little more spacious, leaner in the bass, more comfortable but less secure on the head. The HD555 has a bit more bass, slightly smaller stage, stronger clamp on your head. 

 

alrighty, btw you havent answer the 2nd question :p

 

do both headphones require additional soundcard ?
 

 

post #6929 of 29490

Both can benefit from an external dac/amp, but they are perfectly capable directly from the laptop headphone jack. 

post #6930 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Both can benefit from an external dac/amp, but they are perfectly capable directly from the laptop headphone jack. 

I agree. It would be best to buy one of those two headphones, and buy a cheap amp if you feel the need to upgrade later.
They will sound better properly amped, but it's not like you can't listen to them using the laptops 3.5mm jack.
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