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post #6616 of 29491

what is "big brother of shure 440"?

post #6617 of 29491

shure 840 :p ? 

 

post #6618 of 29491
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Ok, sorry for beeing confuse. Let me try to be clearer.

1) Would an amp make my A700 have a "stronger" bass? If it would, in a US$ 20 -120 bracket, what would be a good recomendation for a, not necessarely portable(since it is pluged primarely on my PC), amp.

2) Would i benefit from an upgrade of my sound card(or alternatives to this)?

    In this case i would basicaly use 16 bits/ 44.1 kHz flac extracted from CDs i have at home, but possibly on a (near?) future, i could use higher quality flac from some online stores i found recently. Since i work a lot on the PC, a good deal of my time is passed on it, so i would be willing to spend up to US$ 200 more or less something on a good sound solution for it. Absolutely no need for surround sound, since i'll be using it with a headphone or at max a 2.1 speaker set. I also read that there are other alternatives(DAC+amp), but i don't know how they work nor price comparison, etc.


In general, no, an amp will not "fix" the sound of a headphone barring those that are particularly difficult to drive (which the A700 is not). You'd notice a bigger effect with EQ or simply getting different headphones. The A700 are not known for having a "strong bass" to begin with.

 

A soundcard/dac is always a nice upgrade, but focus on the headphones first.

 

post #6619 of 29491
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In general, no, an amp will not "fix" the sound of a headphone barring those that are particularly difficult to drive (which the A700 is not). You'd notice a bigger effect with EQ or simply getting different headphones. The A700 are not known for having a "strong bass" to begin with.

 

A soundcard/dac is always a nice upgrade, but focus on the headphones first.

 


Ok, so your sugestion would be an alternative pair of headphones?

So, what would you recomended based on my tastes + a budget on the US$ 100 - 300 bracket?(since i'm graduating on the end of the year, it would be a nice gift to ask my parents, who knows?)

 

post #6620 of 29491
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The e9 has quite a lot of grunt behind it, so it shouldn't have any problem pushing headphones. On the other hand, it also has an output impedance of 10ohm which might make a difference compared to other amps and would have the most pronounced effect on the bass end.

 

Are you using the lineout of the soundcard into the e9 (assuming it has one), or the headphone out? That could make a difference as well.

 

Some budget dacs: Behringer UCA202, HotAudio DacDestroyer, FiiO D3

 

 



I'm using the lineout. It hasn't got a headphone out unfortunately.

post #6621 of 29491

Just became aware of this thread's existence. Silly me.

Anyways, how are the Shure 440's? Are they recommended around here?

post #6622 of 29491

csm725 describe them what your doing with them ;) and most people will give you an answer :)

post #6623 of 29491

Gaming and some rock/pop music. I'm not accustomed to this type of forum, forgive me :P

post #6624 of 29491
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Originally Posted by jhelsas View Post




Ok, so your sugestion would be an alternative pair of headphones?

So, what would you recomended based on my tastes + a budget on the US$ 100 - 300 bracket?(since i'm graduating on the end of the year, it would be a nice gift to ask my parents, who knows?)

 


Some suggestions to look into:

Denon D2000

Phiaton MS400

Shure SRH840

 

 



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Just became aware of this thread's existence. Silly me.

Anyways, how are the Shure 440's? Are they recommended around here?

Gaming and some rock/pop music. I'm not accustomed to this type of forum, forgive me :P


The Shure 440 is a good all-rounder for the budget.

 


 

 

post #6625 of 29491

Okay, so I decided against the 250 ohm dt-770s that I saw. I was pretty hooked by the price though. I'm looking for open-backed headphones that are around $100-140 (on the 'bay) with a wide sound-stage, strong bass, and a coily cable (I seriously can't stand 10 feet of straight cable). Also, comfort is a must. I'm starting to get the feeling I won't find what I'm looking for, and I'll have to settle. I've been considering those Fischer Audio FA-011s that I read about yesterday, but I'm not entirely sure I want to deal with the hassle of having them shipped from Russia. Also, I don't know if they're easy enough for my computer to drive. I don't have/particularly want an amp. Just how weak is the bass on Audio-Technica's ATH-AD700s? Also, closed-back is fine if the sound-stage is there.

EDIT:
Do the AKG K 142 HD satisfy my needs?

God I wish this was like buying effects pedals. Why can't I go on youtube and just listen to a bunch of clips to figure out which one I like best..? :(

You know what? I think reading about all these headphones for a couple days without using mine has drastically improved my hearing and my opinion of my headphones. I'm not sure how you can learn about listening without listening, but it sure as hell happened.


Edited by Amiller1121 - 8/24/11 at 7:53pm
post #6626 of 29491
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Some suggestions to look into:

Denon D2000

Phiaton MS400

Shure SRH840

 



 



Thanks a lot armaegis. The Shure was on my original list, but i'll give a look on him again, and on the others too.

 

Changing the subject, do anyone knows a good music store with headphones to show and sell in place in Boston or New York?

post #6627 of 29491

          I've been searching for a pair of headphones for a few days now and I'm stuck. I'm looking for headphones with great sound quality (nice bass); I will be mixing/mastering my own music on these (mostly dance/dubstep/electronic). Isolation is also important, I want something that can block at loud noises if I was to use these headphones for live djing/performing.

        

         I have heard great things about the Ath M50's being good for mixing and studio use; but I am not sure how well they would be in a djing/live performance environment with extremely loud background noise. I have also Heard good things about the Aiaiai TMA-1 and Allen & Heath Xone XD-53, but I am not sure how great/accurate the sound quality is for master/mixing.

        

         I'm probably asking for way too much for just one set of headphones but given my current situation I can only get one pair. If someone can please comment and recommend a set of headphones in the $200 price range it would be very much appreciated.

post #6628 of 29491
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Seriously? As a guy of Chinese heritage, I'm not sure if I should feel miffed or sympathize...

 

How much are you willing to spend on an amp/headphone? Do you need portability or will this be for a home setup? A cheap option would be to just get a Behringer amp like the HA400 from a music store. Or just use a home receiver/amp with a headphone jack. 

 

 



Chinese goods are inferior. The build quality is lacking tremendously. That is why I was looking at the AKG Q701/K701. They are very detailed reference headphones and they are made in Austria. I also like the AKG sound. I am majoring in Audio Engineering and thought they would be decent starter cans. After I buy the AKG Q701/K701 I would be willing to spend $200-$250 on an amp/dac. Maybe more if I need to. This will be a home rig. I will be mostly listening to .FLAC files on my laptop (so I will need a amp/dac) and sometimes listening to vinyl through a receiver.


Edited by canadianpopo - 8/24/11 at 8:51pm
post #6629 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Amiller1121 View Post

Okay, so I decided against the 250 ohm dt-770s that I saw. I was pretty hooked by the price though. I'm looking for open-backed headphones that are around $100-140 (on the 'bay) with a wide sound-stage, strong bass, and a coily cable (I seriously can't stand 10 feet of straight cable). Also, comfort is a must. I'm starting to get the feeling I won't find what I'm looking for, and I'll have to settle. I've been considering those Fischer Audio FA-011s that I read about yesterday, but I'm not entirely sure I want to deal with the hassle of having them shipped from Russia. Also, I don't know if they're easy enough for my computer to drive. I don't have/particularly want an amp. Just how weak is the bass on Audio-Technica's ATH-AD700s? Also, closed-back is fine if the sound-stage is there.

EDIT:
Do the AKG K 142 HD satisfy my needs?

God I wish this was like buying effects pedals. Why can't I go on youtube and just listen to a bunch of clips to figure out which one I like best..? :(

You know what? I think reading about all these headphones for a couple days without using mine has drastically improved my hearing and my opinion of my headphones. I'm not sure how you can learn about listening without listening, but it sure as hell happened.


AKG headphones should be readily available in music stores. Best bet is to try them out first.

 



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Originally Posted by hazebot View Post

          I've been searching for a pair of headphones for a few days now and I'm stuck. I'm looking for headphones with great sound quality (nice bass); I will be mixing/mastering my own music on these (mostly dance/dubstep/electronic). Isolation is also important, I want something that can block at loud noises if I was to use these headphones for live djing/performing.

        

         I have heard great things about the Ath M50's being good for mixing and studio use; but I am not sure how well they would be in a djing/live performance environment with extremely loud background noise. I have also Heard good things about the Aiaiai TMA-1 and Allen & Heath Xone XD-53, but I am not sure how great/accurate the sound quality is for master/mixing.

        

         I'm probably asking for way too much for just one set of headphones but given my current situation I can only get one pair. If someone can please comment and recommend a set of headphones in the $200 price range it would be very much appreciated.


You do not want to use the same headphones for mixing/mastering and DJ'ing. You want a flat response for producing in order to keep all your levels mixed properly, and you want pronounced bass and highs for DJ'ing so you can hear it over the noise of the club. You can get away with flat response headphones for DJ'ing as long as they provide enough isolation that you can hear your beat cues clearly, but you can't use DJ headphones for producing without some serious EQ'ing.

 

The M50's are a decent compromise in between if you really just want one set. The Senn HD280 might be a safer bet. Maybe the HD380 though that one has a slightly richer bass end.

 


 

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Originally Posted by canadianpopo View Post

Chinese goods are inferior. The build quality is lacking tremendously. That is why I was looking at the AKG Q701/K701. They are very detailed reference headphones and they are made in Austria. I also like the AKG sound. I am majoring in Audio Engineering and thought they would be decent starter cans. After I buy the AKG Q701/K701 I would be willing to spend $200-$250 on an amp/dac. Maybe more if I need to. This will be a home rig. I will be mostly listening to .FLAC files on my laptop (so I will need a amp/dac) and sometimes listening to vinyl through a receiver.


Well after such grand generalizations, I really can't help you. I don't know enough about each company's manufacturing practices to insure that all their components and assemblies have never been touched by Chinese hands.

 

post #6630 of 29491

I'm a mild gamer, i love talking with my friends over teamspeak, i love my high quality music, and i crave comfort. I was planning on buying steelseries 7H Stereo headphones, they come with a mic, and a mic switch, though my friend pushed me to come on here and ask if there are any high end headphones with an attached mic, not inline i prefer on the headphones. The Steelseries i was looking at will cost me around 110 USD, was just wondering if anyone knows of any better comfortable quality headphones with an attached mic, and within 50-130 USD range.

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