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post #5671 of 29490

Ok. Here I go.

I like the HD600 a lot and listened to them almost exclusively for classical music. But I didn''t enjoy the fit; the head clamp is a little too much for prolonged listening. It just wasn't comfortable for me.

I'm scratching my head as to what my remaining options are for classical music. Both the AKG 70* and DT880 are noted as being more comfortable than the HD600. I don't think I'd enjoy the treble of the DT880 and the AKG 70* gets a lot of criticism for requiring a more an expensive amp to help them along. That being said they both have their devotees. I wish that the Q701 were actually different than the K701/2 but most seem to agree that its just a repackaging.

What options am I left with? I'm looking for something that can do symphonies as well as violin solos, something perhaps a little less dark than the HD600, and something really comfortable.

Oh yeah, amp for now is E9 and looking at that under $300 budget.

Thanks!

post #5672 of 29490
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Yikes, how loud do you normally listen? I have the DacDestroyer (which is basically the same as the BitPerfect but without volume control) and the built in amp on that is quite strong... plugging headphones in at max volume is almost deafening for me.

 

Check the EQ settings on your music software and see if there's a "preamp setting" that you can crank up. Outside of that, there are some external software volume boosters that you could try, but I have no experience with those.



typically while listening to music isn't the issue. actually the game that was so bad that it prompted me to make this post, i discovered a setting that was basically at minimum that was causing it, even though i swore i remember raising it a long time ago, must of gotten reset somehow.

 

two things i notice with these headphones is i'm hearing background static while listening to music. is that probably just poor quality of the files?

 

Another thing i notice is when i have the headphones on fairly loud and i'm playing a videogame, nearly every sound that is very low when the the volume was lower becomes significantly higher pitched. I have no idea whats causing this.

post #5673 of 29490

Im interested in getting my hands on the hd650 but I'd like a good amp/dac to run it with.  I was looking at the M-stage amp but I'd like to get the matrix mini-i if thats enough for the hd650.

 

I am also looking at getting this if I don't go for the hd650.  I am trying to decide on getting the N22 for headphone amp for the audioengin P4 bamboo speakers with the dayton 8/10/12 sub.  Just one of the subs.  I am open for suggestions especially if there are better quality products for cheaper.  I know the speaker system would be more than the hd and an amp but I'd like to go for ether or.  HD650 for at home listening/RELAXING or the speakers....

Thanks =)

 

Oh!  PS...I just recently got the hd555 for my wife and did the foam mod and soundstage mod and I'm loving the sound of it... the open sound I mean.  =)


Edited by Hawaiiancerveza - 7/30/11 at 11:58pm
post #5674 of 29490
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Ok. Here I go.

I like the HD600 a lot and listened to them almost exclusively for classical music. But I didn''t enjoy the fit; the head clamp is a little too much for prolonged listening. It just wasn't comfortable for me.

I'm scratching my head as to what my remaining options are for classical music. Both the AKG 70* and DT880 are noted as being more comfortable than the HD600. I don't think I'd enjoy the treble of the DT880 and the AKG 70* gets a lot of criticism for requiring a more an expensive amp to help them along. That being said they both have their devotees. I wish that the Q701 were actually different than the K701/2 but most seem to agree that its just a repackaging.

What options am I left with? I'm looking for something that can do symphonies as well as violin solos, something perhaps a little less dark than the HD600, and something really comfortable.

Oh yeah, amp for now is E9 and looking at that under $300 budget.

Thanks!


Have you considered the Audio Technica ATH-AD700/900? They are very comfortable and play well with classical. The e9 would be more than enough amp for them as well.

 



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Originally Posted by Atavax View Post

typically while listening to music isn't the issue. actually the game that was so bad that it prompted me to make this post, i discovered a setting that was basically at minimum that was causing it, even though i swore i remember raising it a long time ago, must of gotten reset somehow.

 

two things i notice with these headphones is i'm hearing background static while listening to music. is that probably just poor quality of the files?

 

Another thing i notice is when i have the headphones on fairly loud and i'm playing a videogame, nearly every sound that is very low when the the volume was lower becomes significantly higher pitched. I have no idea whats causing this.


Static can be caused by a lot of things...

- low quality files - try playing a cd or some other higher quality source and see how it sounds

- it could be electrical interference - are there any nearby devices that can generate electric/magnetic/etc fields that can interfere with the sound?

- it could be power supply issues/ground loop - this is very hard to diagnose; try a different usb port, plug the computer into a different outlet, unplug other devices or appliances from the same wall outlet, etc.

 

I'm not really sure what would cause the pitch change. My best guess is that if you're maxing the volume that you're basically pushing the amplifier into clipping range which is distorting your music. This is probably entering unsafe listening levels... you might be better served with a closed can which can isolate you from outside noise so you don't have to turn the volume up so high.

 


 

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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

Im interested in getting my hands on the hd650 but I'd like a good amp/dac to run it with.  I was looking at the M-stage amp but I'd like to get the matrix mini-i if thats enough for the hd650.

 

I am also looking at getting this if I don't go for the hd650.  I am trying to decide on getting the N22 for headphone amp for the audioengin P4 bamboo speakers with the dayton 8/10/12 sub.  Just one of the subs.  I am open for suggestions especially if there are better quality products for cheaper.  I know the speaker system would be more than the hd and an amp but I'd like to go for ether or.  HD650 for at home listening/RELAXING or the speakers....

Thanks =)

 

Oh!  PS...I just recently got the hd555 for my wife and did the foam mod and soundstage mod and I'm loving the sound of it... the open sound I mean.  =)


Unless you need the miniaturization, any regular receiver will do the job. Pick up an older model from a garage sale for way cheaper.

 

post #5675 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Static can be caused by a lot of things...

- low quality files - try playing a cd or some other higher quality source and see how it sounds

- it could be electrical interference - are there any nearby devices that can generate electric/magnetic/etc fields that can interfere with the sound?

- it could be power supply issues/ground loop - this is very hard to diagnose; try a different usb port, plug the computer into a different outlet, unplug other devices or appliances from the same wall outlet, etc.

 

I'm not really sure what would cause the pitch change. My best guess is that if you're maxing the volume that you're basically pushing the amplifier into clipping range which is distorting your music. This is probably entering unsafe listening levels... you might be better served with a closed can which can isolate you from outside noise so you don't have to turn the volume up so high.


thanks alot for the input. I'll have to look for a cd somewhere :p

 

it is certainly loud, i think i was a little disappointed with how the gunshots sounded with the sennheiser's over my grado sr60i, so i was temporaryly having the sound a little too loud to see if you get the the good deep sound that way.I guess i'll probably end up using my grado's for shooters and for pop music and my senn's for all the non pop music.

 


Edited by Atavax - 7/31/11 at 1:48am
post #5676 of 29490

 

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Originally Posted by Artums View Post

Hai Head-Fi

 

I'm currently looking for some headphones for everyday use. Mostly at home, so portability is not a huge deal for me. I currently mostly use In-Ear buds (Senn Cx-300, Cx-500, and own some Senn 161's for my gaming headset), I have a couple other In-Ear headphone brands that I cannot recall at the moment also. I really would like a pair of over-ear headphones for (as I said) at home use. I don't really like having buds in my ears, but that was the cheaper quicker alternative when I bought them, I didn't really care too much. I really don't have much of a knowledge of headphones but am looking to learn, haha. I am now looking for a good solid pair (100 - 200?) I don't really know, money isn't a huge object here and I wouldn't mind spending if I knew it was a good investment. I also, have no clue about desktop amps and honestly had no idea there was such a thing until recently haha. So I think I'd rather get headphones that sound good without a amp.

I listen to a lot of music, namely trance, dubstep (I'd listen to more but I really do not like how most dubstep sounds on my In-ear headphones), techno.. but I also do listen to rock/rap/country, it is pretty much whatever I am in the mood for that day.

 

Also, one of the main problems I have with my 161's is that when I lean over.. (since I'm a girl), they fall off my head. Seriously I cannot lean over or they go flying, this isn't really a problem on the computer because well.. you sit upright, but I'd love a pair that could actually fit my head.

Thanks all!



Check out the Audio Technca ATH-AD700, it's good value for money and a very popular gaming headphone (at least for those that are into FPS).

 

If you don't like the purple colour, or want a closed headphone with more bass (open headphones are cool though), then you might want to check out the Sony ZX700.

 

If you want something stylish (since you're a girl) and a bit cheaper, I'd get the Yuin G2A.

 

 

Edit: you might want to consider this one as well, quoting user Mad Lust Envy here:

 

"DT770 Pro 80

Comfort king. This is a heavy hitter. Very impressive for non-competitive gaming, especially if you wanna feel like you're in a movie theater. The bass is considerably super powered, and would make this a bad choice for competitive gaming. However, the soundstage depth and width is surprisingly large for a closed headphone. These also have the VERY best sense of distance when positioning sounds...PERIOD. Nothing has toppled this headphone when it comes to that. Not the AD700, K701, or HD598. Too bad it's too wild in bass for hardcore FPS gaming. The finer details are prety much sucked out because of the bass.

Fun: 9/10

Competitive: 6/10 (positional accuracy is the very best, but the bloated bass makes it hard to pick up details, so it hurts it quite a bit.)"
 


Edited by kiteki - 7/31/11 at 3:43am
post #5677 of 29490

Hi Head Fi, I've been using headphones for quite a while and have mainly stuck to budget based ones. I recently bought Kitsound KSDJ headphones which were quite nice for £15 but clamped on my head too tightly. I also own a pair of HD202's which are good value but become uncomfortable as they aren't completely circumaural. I've got about £40 to spend and have been considering the Sony XB500's quite strongly. I know plenty of audiophiles here may shoot it down because of the focus on bass and how the mid and highs get drowned out. Comfort is quite a big factor as is sound quality. But if the sound quality comes from bass, that is fine too. I'm quite keen on experiencing heavy dubstep and drum and bass through these. I guess I'm asking if anyone can suggest headphones below £40 that are well worth considering over these. At the moment I want something that is super comfortable followed by something that is very fun to listen to for several hours a day. As speakers go, I own a pair of Logitech X540's and would love to have that kind of bass in a headphone which is why I've gone for these Sony's. But is it better to go for something more balanced right now? :)

 

Thanks

Vish

post #5678 of 29490
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Also consider the Audio Technica pro700mk2 and Ultrasone Pro900.

 

Pulled the trigger on the Ultrasone HFI-580. Really looking forward to the sound of these cans with electronica.

 

Thanks Armaegis and all that commented on my questions.

 

Will report back with a review/comparison of ATH-M50 to HFI-580.

post #5679 of 29490

I'm looking for a good headphones that are "gentle" with poor quailty music. Would the DT770 Pro 80 be a good choice? Or should I look another model?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

"DT770 Pro 80

Comfort king. This is a heavy hitter. Very impressive for non-competitive gaming, especially if you wanna feel like you're in a movie theater. The bass is considerably super powered, and would make this a bad choice for competitive gaming. However, the soundstage depth and width is surprisingly large for a closed headphone. These also have the VERY best sense of distance when positioning sounds...PERIOD. Nothing has toppled this headphone when it comes to that. Not the AD700, K701, or HD598. Too bad it's too wild in bass for hardcore FPS gaming. The finer details are prety much sucked out because of the bass.

Fun: 9/10

Competitive: 6/10 (positional accuracy is the very best, but the bloated bass makes it hard to pick up details, so it hurts it quite a bit.)"
 



 

post #5680 of 29490

Is the SR325is worth it over the SR225i with regards to price and over-all sound quality? Just got introduced to the entire Audiophile concept by my friend :))

post #5681 of 29490

 

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I'm looking for a good headphones that are "gentle" with poor quailty music. Would the DT770 Pro 80 be a good choice? Or should I look another model?

 

 


By "gentle" the common term used is "forgiving".

 

I don't know enough about headphones to answer that, sorry.

 

post #5682 of 29490

Thanks! It's much easier to search the forums with the right terms biggrin.gif
 

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By "gentle" the common term used is "forgiving".

 

I don't know enough about headphones to answer that, sorry.

 



 

post #5683 of 29490
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thanks alot for the input. I'll have to look for a cd somewhere :p

 

it is certainly loud, i think i was a little disappointed with how the gunshots sounded with the sennheiser's over my grado sr60i, so i was temporaryly having the sound a little too loud to see if you get the the good deep sound that way.I guess i'll probably end up using my grado's for shooters and for pop music and my senn's for all the non pop music.

 


Well y'see, you have a bunch of conflicting needs and desires here. If you're playing shooters, you want a high degree of clarity with low bass (because it obscures positional details) and good soundstaging. With pop music, you usually want more bass and impactful sound, and oftentimes a slightly muddier upper range because the mastering on a lot of the modern stuff is really terrible and you wind up hearing a lot of grain and shrillness.

 

Grados are great for detail and sharpness, and soundstaging is good though might be a bit off for competitive level fps (a bit too wide in my opinion). You will hear crisp gunshots, but probably won't get the satisfying low end rumble of an explosion.

 

The Senn 598 is generally regarded as a very good headphone for gaming, with better low and and soundstage compared to the grado. You won't get quite the same impact and "zing" as the Grados though.

 

Here's something to try: open up your sound settings EQ and play with the treble region, turning up the 2-8kHz region by about +3db, with maybe a +6Hz hump around 4kHz (so a bit of a bell curve essentially).


 

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post


Check out the Audio Technca ATH-AD700, it's good value for money and a very popular gaming headphone (at least for those that are into FPS).

 

If you don't like the purple colour, or want a closed headphone with more bass (open headphones are cool though), then you might want to check out the Sony ZX700.

 

If you want something stylish (since you're a girl) and a bit cheaper, I'd get the Yuin G2A.

 


If she' already has a problem with the Senns falling off her head, the AD700 will be even worse. The full sized audio technicas are *very* comfortable, but have very little stability on you head.

 



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Originally Posted by vishnithiy View Post

Hi Head Fi, I've been using headphones for quite a while and have mainly stuck to budget based ones. I recently bought Kitsound KSDJ headphones which were quite nice for £15 but clamped on my head too tightly. I also own a pair of HD202's which are good value but become uncomfortable as they aren't completely circumaural. I've got about £40 to spend and have been considering the Sony XB500's quite strongly. I know plenty of audiophiles here may shoot it down because of the focus on bass and how the mid and highs get drowned out. Comfort is quite a big factor as is sound quality. But if the sound quality comes from bass, that is fine too. I'm quite keen on experiencing heavy dubstep and drum and bass through these. I guess I'm asking if anyone can suggest headphones below £40 that are well worth considering over these. At the moment I want something that is super comfortable followed by something that is very fun to listen to for several hours a day. As speakers go, I own a pair of Logitech X540's and would love to have that kind of bass in a headphone which is why I've gone for these Sony's. But is it better to go for something more balanced right now? :)

 

Thanks

Vish


The XB500/700 are like pillows on your head. If you're shooting for comfort and bass, it's hard to go wrong with those. The 500 is generally regarded as having more bass (especially extending into the mids), and the 700 being a bit cleaner.

 



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Originally Posted by flavouz View Post

I'm looking for a good headphones that are "gentle" with poor quailty music. Would the DT770 Pro 80 be a good choice? Or should I look another model?

 

 


Unless your music is 10 year old rips or extracted from youtube, your music quality is most likely fine.

 



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Originally Posted by Spencah View Post

Is the SR325is worth it over the SR225i with regards to price and over-all sound quality? Just got introduced to the entire Audiophile concept by my friend :))


The SR325 has a lot of love/hate going for it. I recommend reading up on its specific threads to get a better sense of its sound. The SR225 would generally be considered a safer bet.

 

post #5684 of 29490
Hi guys,

This is my virgin post here after going through quite a number of audio forum with google, I've decided to tap "Join" after reading up for many days. I just love the community here.

It's my first time dabbling into the whole of Audios, previous used the standard earphone given by Apple then switch to Audio Technica low range IEM and got a serious bad ear infection after using it for 8 hours daily basis, the ENT specialist advise me to stop using IEM thus decide to switch to head phone.

After the bad experience with IEMs, I ran through the whole of Sennheiser, trying out their HD 4xx series which cost $150 odds. I felt super pleasant with Sennheiser product thus decided to work on it.

After reading up head-fi.org, I've got seriously hooked up by reviews of HD 650. Gone through Headfonia and HD598/600 caught my attention. I am also aware that for HD600/650 require an AMP to power up efficiently due to the impedance of 300ohm. Therefore decided to grab the Fiio E11 after reading up reviews from various place.

My requirement :
- more toward listening to Vocals pop like Korean, Japanese, English Pop songs. R&B. Technos etc...

- Action Movies on my IPhone, lots of gun shot, fire power and explosions.

- Comfort (long hours of listening but I hardly max out my volume, usually 50-70% (Gauge from IPhone's iPod media player)


Questions:
1. Is Hd600/650 too overkill for the first headphone? The amount of money I had it's max I can't stretch further for flagship headset.

2. I too readup that HD 650 is more gentle compare to the hd 600?

3. Is Fiio E11 good enough for the above mentioned headset or should I balance up example, a $500 headset for a $500 amp ?

4. Does the Silver LOD cable makes a huge different as compare to the normal copper LOD cable? It's like 10x different in price aww!!

5. Is there anything else I could add to improve on for my journey in the audio world?

Your advise is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
post #5685 of 29490

I need to buy new headphones.

Music genres: Mostly Dubstep but i also listen to alot of other genres.

Portable: No, only at the computer.

Price range:   0-100$

Amped: No,I  only use the integrated soundcard on my motherboard.

Closed/Open: Doesnt matter cuz i have almost no experience of headphones.

Headphone preference: Priceworth.

 

BR

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