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post #5176 of 29490
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Originally Posted by juggernaut303 View Post

K so i own an ibasso d10 portable amp.

 

I loved my Beyers (dt990/600ohm) but theyre too power hungry.

i was considering just getting the 250 ohm version, my question is am i taking a massive step back in audio quality?  i can handle alittle downgrade with being able to take them on trips, but i gotta draw the line somewhere.

 

i listen to techno, metal, r&b, darn near everything.  if not the beyers, any suggestions that would suit my amp/music/semi portable needs?

 

Thanks!


 

I've tried several of the full sized Beyers with my D10 and wasn't particularly satisfied with any of them. If you're looking for something portable, then get a portable headphone. The new DT1350 is getting rave reviews and is worth considering (assuming you can find them... they seem to be selling out everywhere).

post #5177 of 29490

Related to the previous posts, if my 360 is connected to my TV through HDMI, is there a way I can stream the audio to my headphones?

post #5178 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Kudos View Post

Related to the previous posts, if my 360 is connected to my TV through HDMI, is there a way I can stream the audio to my headphones?


Your TV probably has some RCA outs you could run to an amp.  It might have a digital out you could run to a DAC.  Take a look.

post #5179 of 29490

The Sennheisers are really a mixed bag when it comes to amplification.  They can get loud without it due to their high efficiency, but the sound will be extremely skewed with almost no bass.  Also, with the Realtek HD audio, you are going to be hurting pretty badly.  You WILL hear artifacts and I can tell you this from experience.  My suggestion, don't bother with the Sennheisers unless you get better equipment to go with it.  As for a suggestion, I would suggest the ATH-AD700.  It is a really popular choice for gamers in your price range, very comfortable, very open, but won't need a better source to shine. 
 

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Originally Posted by Setre View Post

Alright, time to show my noobness and ignorance but I need to know this before I drop $200 + on a pair of headphones that may not even benefit me.

 

My PC doesn't have a dedicated sound card so I'm just using Realtek HD Audio. As far as my PS3 and 360 go I don't have a A/V Receiver so I'd just be plugging them into my TV's audio jack.

 

Is it worth spending $200 + on a pair of Sennheiser 598 with these types of setups or should I just go for something a lot less expensive? 



 

post #5180 of 29490
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Originally Posted by sgpao View Post

 

Good Day experts, can anyone suggest a good set of cans for the following details? To be honest, I'm not an audiophile, I haven't owned a pair of decent headphones my entire life, only settling for Apple's stock earphones. I have wanted to buy a pair for almost a month now, but the only thing stopping me is too much time spent reading on forums. So please please, someone just seal the deal! 

 

MUSIC GENRE I LISTEN TO:

  • 50% House / Club / Dance / Trance - mostly Hed Kandi, Ministry of Sound etc. 
  • 30% Alternative / Rock - but not as far as Heavy Metal. 
  • 20% Everything Else - from pop/classical/to whatever is played today

 

PORTABLE: No need. Circumaural please.

 

PRICE RANGE: $90-less, separate budget from my amp.

 

AMPED: For now none, but I'm planning to get a FiiO E11

 

CLOSED / OPEN: Definitely CLOSED. Can't afford sound leakage (see where I'll use them).

 

WHERE I'LL USE THEM: Office, Coffee Shop, Home. 

 

WHAT I USE TO PLAY MUSIC: Laptop (Lenovo Y450 if u must know), iPod Touch 4G

 

WHAT I'M EYEING AFTER READING STUFF: 

  • Sennheiser HD438 (originally HD448, but they say the bass is weaker than HD438)
  • Audio Technica stuff, not sure yet though.


After reading a couple of replies from head-fi.org, my search has been narrowed down to well.. one. Need expert help if my choice suits my criteria (quoted it above).

 

Audio Technica : ATH-SJ55

 

Goes for around $79.99 where I'm at. Gives me a bit of space for an amp too (might get FiiO E11)

 

If there are still other suggestions there, please inform me, I don't want to screw up my first purchase and feel disappointed :(

 

post #5181 of 29490
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Originally Posted by iGuitar93 View Post

Hi, I need help with my next choice of headphones.

 

I currently own a pair of sony mdr- v6's. They are great. I am very happy with them but I am looking to step up the sound quality and try an open style headphone.I want to spend between $100- $200 and I do not want to have to purchase an amp right off the bat. I need something that will sound good off my Yamaha receiver and my computer. I listen to classic rock, classical, modern rock, jazz, and blues. The sony's are good with rock and blues. So I'm hoping I could find some headphones that are good in classical, jazz, and some gaming/movies. Thumping bass is not needed. Accurate bass is good, though. From my research, the hd555's modded to hd595's or AD700's seem like the best options. What do you guys think? 

 

 With more research I think the AD900 instead of the AD700 will be my best bet. I have a little more money to spend now and can go to 230. How good are the AD900's? Any other recommendations? 

 


Edited by iGuitar93 - 7/5/11 at 9:33am
post #5182 of 29490

Alright, I decided on what I'm going to do.

 

I'm going to get a ASTRO MixAmp and buy either some ATH-AD900s or ATH-A900s. Debating between open or closed simply because it'd be nice to be shut off from the rest of the world while gaming and it might be more immersive, even though the sound quality will be taking a hit. Once I get my MixAmp and cans I'll decided whether or not to get something that'll make music sound better as that's not my primary concern right now.

 

Thanks for everyone's help and sorry for the stupid questions. Now time to decided what type of portable's I want. 

post #5183 of 29490

Hi all,

 

it's time to come out of the closet now and say that I've been somewhat disappointed in the K702's as well as the HD650's after some initial listening at one of my local stores. Don't get me wrong - I can definitely see what aspects of each headphone makes them so appreciated, but I wish I could marry the two and see what kind of child that would bring. Thus, it's the fact that neither one of them makes me want to buy them that is disappointing. Obviously, the right DAC/Amp would help them both and that's clearly not been used during and yes - they both need to be broken in to sound as they should. This implies that I in no way have given up on them, but that I am more open to other options than I was expecting to be.

 

Main sound goal: I'm chasing a pair of headphones with a balanced and open sound without getting bright, good detail and more than anything: an engaging sound.

 

Experiences thus far: The K702 sound was too bright on the (poorly matched and no particular quality) amp that was used during the initial listening, and all types of music felt clearly lacking in involvement. The HD650 sound was clearly more involving, but somewhat blurry in the lower region. I can deal with the darker sound, as long as it doesn't get blurry but it's not like I prefer a darker sound over a neutral one. In other words - it is (not surprisingly) clear that these two headphones need dedicated and different DAC/Amps to sound their best towards my ideals. That should help tighten up the HD650 as well as provide more life to the K702, but maybe there are other contenders that are closer to my main sound goal to start from?

 

While I've used the top of the line Etymotics for my flying (and hence noice cancelling) needs for many years, I don't have a bias towards particular brands or models for full-size headphones. Furthermore - I've been following this forum for several years just because I'm interested in sound and such, but I only have extensive experience from high end (speaker-based) stereo equipment, and thus hope to call on you all for help and guidance. I feel confident in what I want out of the sound and what is fair to ask from a set of headphones in relation to what I already have on my stereo, but I'm willing to postpone getting headphones until I find what I need (and have had a chance to listen before buying). 

 

Music played: Metal (death/thrash/black/alternative), country (traditional/outlaw), jazz (traditional/big band). Out of these three, I'd say 45% of the first two and 10% jazz. I know it's an odd combination. Please note that I prefer a balanced sound still (too much of anything - particularly bass - is an obvious no-no to me). I want to listen to the music as recorded, but I want to have fun doing so.

 

Source: Most likely the computer primarily as that is where I tend to sit when my wife has gone to bed and my speakers (and CD/turntable) aren't suitable to use. I suspect I will ditch my PC350s that I have for the Xbox at some point and add a mic to the (future) headphones also, but that's not to be taken into account as it is for music purposes that I am chasing headphones. 

 

Budget: Depends on what it takes to find the sound goal I have. Only once I've found what I'm after will I decide if it's worth the money.

 

Advice needed: Any advice you may have from your own experience that coincides with my sound goal that can be done with DAC/Amps to the K702/HD650, or some other headphone to start from would be very appreciated.

post #5184 of 29490

I would actually venture away from the K702 and the HD650 then if they didn't have an immediately good impression. An amp will tune some things up, but won't drastically affect their sound character. Maybe consider moving up to orthos or trying something like a full sized Audio Technica (the AD2000 being their flagship which can be had for $400 used). You could also consider a Denon D5000/7000 or maybe an open Ultrasone like the HFI 2400.


Edited by Armaegis - 7/5/11 at 12:02pm
post #5185 of 29490

Yep, found the RCA, just a matter of finding the right one. Thanks.
 

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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post


Your TV probably has some RCA outs you could run to an amp.  It might have a digital out you could run to a DAC.  Take a look

 

 

post #5186 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

I would actually venture away from the K702 and the HD650 then if they didn't have an immediately good impression. An amp will tune some things up, but won't drastically affect their sound character. Maybe consider moving up to orthos or trying something like a full sized Audio Technica (the AD2000 being their flagship which can be had for $400 used). You could also consider a Denon D5000/7000 or maybe an open Ultrasone like the HFI 2400.

 

I'm hesitant towards the K702 but I'm not sure about the HD650 as I know how much the right amp made for my slightly sloppy speakers, but yeah - all of a sudden I feel like much of my research was thrown upside down. I thought the AD2000 were supposed to be fairly light weight in the same sense that the K702 were? You never know what I remember correctly however... sometimes I pull toads rather than rabbits out of the old hat. I've never heard the D5k/7k or the 2400, so that would be interesting. I'll dive into what others have experienced until I find somewhere I can listen to them!
 

Cheers, Armaegis. More suggestions are still welcome of course :)

 

post #5187 of 29490

I'm not planning on buying this now (I just got my M50s), but for future reference...

What closed pair would be a step up from the M50s?

Price does not matter in this case, I just want to know where I should go later on (granted, there will most likely be new releases by then, but even so).

Something that isolates, has a decent soundstage, and brings out the smallest of details in a song.

It'd be nice to not have to use an amp, but I suppose it doesn't really matter -- amp or no amp works fine.

 

I'm happy with my M50s; I just want to know how far this road stretches.

 

post #5188 of 29490

XB500, but with better isolation/less sound leakage?

 

The XB500 sounds exactly like what I want in a headphone....except for the sound leakage. My wife will be next to me when I am using them on a computer and her biggest complaint of my previous, cheap headphones is her having to turn the tv up when I'm listening to music.

 

I am also currently considering the DT770/80 Pros. Because of the price difference between the two, I'm looking for advice on some closed headphones that have the XB500 punchy bass and only needing EQ for better sound, but the non-sound leakage of the DT770 Pros.

 

MUSIC: Metal (power/heavy/thrash/death/speed). Bands I listen to most often have a lot of double bass drumming - Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Amon Amarth, Equilibrium, Moonsorrow, Rage, Testament, etc.

 

BUDGET: The DT770/80 Pros are at the extreme high of my price range, the XB500 is at a more than acceptable price. The youtube video of the

DT770/80 showing how little sound leakage they have and the reviews I've read of their bass make them sound worth the extra $100 over the XB500.

 

USE: At home exclusively from a desktop computer - no mp3 player, so portability is not an issue

 

AMP: Not at first, but may get one down the road. This site has me considering headphones that cost over $75, so reading more will probably convince me to try an amp at some point. I've read the DT770/80 needs an amp for the best sound, but they also do well without one, which is why I'm considering them.

 

LOOKING FOR: Closed, full size. Typical basshead looking mainly for punchy bass for the fast, double bass drumming, and as little sound leakage as possible so my wife doesn't have to listen to my music when I do. I'll be listening at normal volumes, but may want to turn a song or two up a few notches.

 

Are the DT770/80 Pros my best option or is there a cheaper option? Should I consider the RX700?

 

post #5189 of 29490
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Originally Posted by jb10 View Post

XB500, but with better isolation/less sound leakage?

 

The XB500 sounds exactly like what I want in a headphone....except for the sound leakage. My wife will be next to me when I am using them on a computer and her biggest complaint of my previous, cheap headphones is her having to turn the tv up when I'm listening to music.

 

I am also currently considering the DT770/80 Pros. Because of the price difference between the two, I'm looking for advice on some closed headphones that have the XB500 punchy bass and only needing EQ for better sound, but the non-sound leakage of the DT770 Pros.

 

MUSIC: Metal (power/heavy/thrash/death/speed). Bands I listen to most often have a lot of double bass drumming - Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Amon Amarth, Equilibrium, Moonsorrow, Rage, Testament, etc.

 

BUDGET: The DT770/80 Pros are at the extreme high of my price range, the XB500 is at a more than acceptable price. The youtube video of the

DT770/80 showing how little sound leakage they have and the reviews I've read of their bass make them sound worth the extra $100 over the XB500.

 

USE: At home exclusively from a desktop computer - no mp3 player, so portability is not an issue

 

AMP: Not at first, but may get one down the road. This site has me considering headphones that cost over $75, so reading more will probably convince me to try an amp at some point. I've read the DT770/80 needs an amp for the best sound, but they also do well without one, which is why I'm considering them.

 

LOOKING FOR: Closed, full size. Typical basshead looking mainly for punchy bass for the fast, double bass drumming, and as little sound leakage as possible so my wife doesn't have to listen to my music when I do. I'll be listening at normal volumes, but may want to turn a song or two up a few notches.

 

Are the DT770/80 Pros my best option or is there a cheaper option? Should I consider the RX700?

 


The Sennheiser HD280 Pro and HD380 are great closed headphones

 

post #5190 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Trasselkalle View Post

 

I'm hesitant towards the K702 but I'm not sure about the HD650 as I know how much the right amp made for my slightly sloppy speakers, but yeah - all of a sudden I feel like much of my research was thrown upside down. I thought the AD2000 were supposed to be fairly light weight in the same sense that the K702 were? You never know what I remember correctly however... sometimes I pull toads rather than rabbits out of the old hat. I've never heard the D5k/7k or the 2400, so that would be interesting. I'll dive into what others have experienced until I find somewhere I can listen to them!
 

Cheers, Armaegis. More suggestions are still welcome of course :)

 


The winged Audio Technicas are generally lighter on the bass, but have a richer mid focus while the K702 I find tends to be sharper in the mid-high range. Try out the low end AD700 or 900 to get a good idea of the sound. The Audio Technicas are also generally very easy to drive, making them less amp dependant (or none at all), which is a nice sigh of relief for your wallet.

 



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Originally Posted by PCHU View Post

I'm not planning on buying this now (I just got my M50s), but for future reference...

What closed pair would be a step up from the M50s?

Price does not matter in this case, I just want to know where I should go later on (granted, there will most likely be new releases by then, but even so).

Something that isolates, has a decent soundstage, and brings out the smallest of details in a song.

It'd be nice to not have to use an amp, but I suppose it doesn't really matter -- amp or no amp works fine.

 

I'm happy with my M50s; I just want to know how far this road stretches.

 

 

The new kids on the block, easy to drive, and well reviewed for detail retrieval:

Shure 940

Beyer DT1350
 

 



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Originally Posted by jb10 View Post

XB500, but with better isolation/less sound leakage?

 

The XB500 sounds exactly like what I want in a headphone....except for the sound leakage. My wife will be next to me when I am using them on a computer and her biggest complaint of my previous, cheap headphones is her having to turn the tv up when I'm listening to music.

 

I am also currently considering the DT770/80 Pros. Because of the price difference between the two, I'm looking for advice on some closed headphones that have the XB500 punchy bass and only needing EQ for better sound, but the non-sound leakage of the DT770 Pros.

 

MUSIC: Metal (power/heavy/thrash/death/speed). Bands I listen to most often have a lot of double bass drumming - Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Amon Amarth, Equilibrium, Moonsorrow, Rage, Testament, etc.

 

BUDGET: The DT770/80 Pros are at the extreme high of my price range, the XB500 is at a more than acceptable price. The youtube video of the

DT770/80 showing how little sound leakage they have and the reviews I've read of their bass make them sound worth the extra $100 over the XB500.

 

USE: At home exclusively from a desktop computer - no mp3 player, so portability is not an issue

 

AMP: Not at first, but may get one down the road. This site has me considering headphones that cost over $75, so reading more will probably convince me to try an amp at some point. I've read the DT770/80 needs an amp for the best sound, but they also do well without one, which is why I'm considering them.

 

LOOKING FOR: Closed, full size. Typical basshead looking mainly for punchy bass for the fast, double bass drumming, and as little sound leakage as possible so my wife doesn't have to listen to my music when I do. I'll be listening at normal volumes, but may want to turn a song or two up a few notches.

 

Are the DT770/80 Pros my best option or is there a cheaper option? Should I consider the RX700?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Dukedudez View Post

The Sennheiser HD280 Pro and HD380 are great closed headphones

 


 

 

Neither is particularly bassy.

 

Some bassier headphones with decent to good isolation around your price range:

Phiaton MS400

M-Audio Q40

Shure 750

Shure 840

Audio Technica Pro700mk2

Ultrasone Pro 650 or 750

Denon D1100

Denon D2000 (used)

 

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