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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

DACs, spend $50 to $100 on, the rest is snake oil...
 



Lol. Or perhaps it's just you that are blessed with being satisfied enough to the point you no longer find actual upgrades to be worth it.

post #4712 of 29490

I've been reading pretty much everything this place has to offer. My wallet is scared if I really get into this obsession. I have narrowed down my choices. I know these have very different sound, sound stage, and strong points but I'm looking for opinions on which are better to begin my head-fi experience.

 

AKG Q701

Shure SRH 840 

Audio technica M50 and A900

AKG K 271 MkII

 

I also believe I will be purchasing an iBasso D6.

 

Thanks for any opinions. 

post #4713 of 29490

It seems like I should be investing a bit of money into an amp rather than headphones. I'm thinking about holding off on the headphones for now, and getting an amp/DAC along these lines instead (uDAC-2):

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconudac2/

post #4714 of 29490

Hey guys, 
   Someone is offering me both Grado SR80i and SR225i, both are modded + woodied (same modifications on both). What would be the better option? Is the extra $100 gonna improve the sound that much?

 Edit: How would they compare with the Monster Turbine Pro Copper, in terms of build quality? Also, which of them sounds better? MTPC or modded+woodied Grados?


Edited by WoahReQQuiem - 6/16/11 at 6:30am
post #4715 of 29490
I want to get either ultasone pro750s or some ultrasone dj1 pros.i like to listen to hip hop and rock and some alternative hippie rock. I am new to higher end headphones and would really like some recommendations thanks
post #4716 of 29490
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Originally Posted by JAG07 View Post

I've been reading pretty much everything this place has to offer. My wallet is scared if I really get into this obsession. I have narrowed down my choices. I know these have very different sound, sound stage, and strong points but I'm looking for opinions on which are better to begin my head-fi experience.

 

AKG Q701

Shure SRH 840 

Audio technica M50 and A900

AKG K 271 MkII

 

I also believe I will be purchasing an iBasso D6.

 

Thanks for any opinions. 


What you're asking for is to others to guess what you'll like.  For that, we need to know what kind of music and sound you like and such because there is no one headphone that triumphs all others especially at the price range of the headphones that you've listed.  The best way is for you to listen to it and decide.  Everyone hears different sound here.
 

 

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I just don't know any decent amps, plus I've seen conflicting opinions. Plenty of people say you do/don't need an amp, I've even read where you can't hear a difference between amped/unamped, but that's probably very dependent on the source of sound, amp, and headphones. I wish buying a decent pair of headphones was easy!

 




You sort of need an amp and you DEFINITELY need a good dac. People told me I didn't need to amp my m50s, boy they were wrong.


 

What would be a good dac?

A PC's sound card would be a good dac?

 

And someone know anything about the A700 beeing a bit too loose on the head on not providing a good sound isolation.


Edited by jhelsas - 6/16/11 at 4:56am
post #4718 of 29490

Wow this thread is flooded with questions! Yeah well I understand that it may be impossible to answer them all, but I'd appreciate any comments. I have to make my call today and this is what I'm thinking so far:

Audio Technica M50 (mind pretty made up on these)

Fischer Audio 004 (not so much here, what I'm looking for is a good and broad soundstage in a well isolated can)

Fiio E7 (will it make a difference?)

I'd like to know if there is anything comparable to the 004 for under 100$, and if the E7 makes sense with these phones or it's unnecesary.

My portable player has a 37mW x2 amp.

Cheers!

 

Edit: these 3 things add up to approx. 400 U$S, maybe you can come up with a better way to spend that much, which is my current limit.


Edited by TheUbiquitous - 6/16/11 at 5:53am
post #4719 of 29490
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Originally Posted by jhelsas View Post


 


 

What would be a good dac?

A PC's sound card would be a good dac?

 

And someone know anything about the A700 beeing a bit too loose on the head on not providing a good sound isolation.


Hi again Jhelsas - gets confusing doesn't it.

 

First - especially on this website - take all the advice with a grain of caution (everything is an opinion).  Second - when getting advice, don't be afraid to look at the advisors profile.  Have a look at what cans they've got in their inventory etc.  Keep in ming their join date and post count.  Then you slowly get to know what advice is good and what is 'questionable'.

 

On the subject of amps/dacs - this is good advice:

 

 


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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post

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For the most part, expensive DACs and amps are oversold.  There's way more difference between a $100 and 1K pair of 'phones than there is between a $100 and 1K DAC or amp.  Get a decent DAC if your current sources aren't very good and get an amp strong enough to power whatever 'phones you get.  Then don't worry about them until you either get a harder to drive 'phone or a flagship level phone and can't upgrade it any further.

 

The question of whether or not you need an amp, depends on the cans you are driving, and the source you are using.  The A700 and the SRH440 (even the M50 or SRH840 for that matter) can be driven well from your average portable player.  They don't need an amp.  A lot of cans can benefit from an amp if you want to take advantage of one, and you have spare funds.  It's an important distinction.  I use an entry point amp for my 840's because there is a benefit for me (increased fidelity).  But they do not need it, and sound pretty good out of my iPod unamped anyway.

 

The question of whether you need a DAC is entirely dependent on your source.  If you primarily use a laptop, some people find the use of an external USB DAC/AMP helps by giving a cleaner signal.  If you listen from your PC, and are using onboard sound, a DAC can also help - but again it may not be necessary.  My advice for now would be to get your cans first - then once you get them, if you want to take an extra step, do some more research on a suitable DAC or DAC/amp combo.  You may be perfectly happy without one - so take little steps.

 

On the question of the A700's.  I own the open equivalent AD700.  They are really comfortable - but can be loose at times.  One thing you can do easily is use a rubber band to loop the two 'wings' together.  It provides some additional clamping if you worry about slippage.  They are very comfortable though.  For your genres (not looking for big bass), either they or the 440's will be a good choice to start with.

 

Get the cans first, get used to them, and then if you want to step up from there, come back and ask for more advice.  I hope this helps.  Posters like Mav, Armaegis, CleOS, Joker, EU, Estreeter etc have helped me immensely.  Again, just be careful with what you read - and whose advice you take.

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Hi again Jhelsas - gets confusing doesn't it.

 

First - especially on this website - take all the advice with a grain of caution (everything is an opinion).  Second - when getting advice, don't be afraid to look at the advisors profile.  Have a look at what cans they've got in their inventory etc.  Keep in ming their join date and post count.  Then you slowly get to know what advice is good and what is 'questionable'.

 

On the subject of amps/dacs - this is good advice:

 

 


 

 

The question of whether or not you need an amp, depends on the cans you are driving, and the source you are using.  The A700 and the SRH440 (even the M50 or SRH840 for that matter) can be driven well from your average portable player.  They don't need an amp.  A lot of cans can benefit from an amp if you want to take advantage of one, and you have spare funds.  It's an important distinction.  I use an entry point amp for my 840's because there is a benefit for me (increased fidelity).  But they do not need it, and sound pretty good out of my iPod unamped anyway.

 

The question of whether you need a DAC is entirely dependent on your source.  If you primarily use a laptop, some people find the use of an external USB DAC/AMP helps by giving a cleaner signal.  If you listen from your PC, and are using onboard sound, a DAC can also help - but again it may not be necessary.  My advice for now would be to get your cans first - then once you get them, if you want to take an extra step, do some more research on a suitable DAC or DAC/amp combo.  You may be perfectly happy without one - so take little steps.

 

On the question of the A700's.  I own the open equivalent AD700.  They are really comfortable - but can be loose at times.  One thing you can do easily is use a rubber band to loop the two 'wings' together.  It provides some additional clamping if you worry about slippage.  They are very comfortable though.  For your genres (not looking for big bass), either they or the 440's will be a good choice to start with.

 

Get the cans first, get used to them, and then if you want to step up from there, come back and ask for more advice.  I hope this helps.  Posters like Mav, Armaegis, CleOS, Joker, EU, Estreeter etc have helped me immensely.  Again, just be careful with what you read - and whose advice you take.

 

Yes, it gets confusing a lot.


Thanks again, i must say the same about your posts, they are most usefull!

 

Ok, got the idea, and so i choose the Shure 440. In the future, if the time comes, i'll search for another. About the amp/dac, i'll do just that.

Right now i'm waiting the answer on the In-Ear forum.

 

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What I guess I mean is which of these do you think it is best to start this little journey. Like which is a good intro headphone of the group. I guess you are right and should just listen to them. only problem is that there isn't really anywhere for me to listen to them. Not these models at least.

 

I have been listening to more and more jazz lately when I study and obviously for enjoyment(prefer trios with piano, bass, and drums) . Other than that it's going to be rock. Figure for jazz you want something with more air and separation while with rock you want something with more umph in the bass and forward sound since it is a more exciting genre. I'm not sure if any of those covers those criteria. If they do just let me know. Thanks.
 

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Originally Posted by codeninja View Post




What you're asking for is to others to guess what you'll like.  For that, we need to know what kind of music and sound you like and such because there is no one headphone that triumphs all others especially at the price range of the headphones that you've listed.  The best way is for you to listen to it and decide.  Everyone hears different sound here.
 

 



 

post #4722 of 29490
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Originally Posted by tknick90 View Post

Hi,

 

I'm looking for some closed over the ear headphones

 

Budget:  $50-$60

Usage:  Home; via iPod, MacBook, integrated sound card on PC.  Portability and style are non factors for the most part.  Something that doesn't require an amp.

Listening Content:  Music;  electronica, deep, IDM, ambient, experimental. (Radiohead, Boards of Canada, Autechre, Aphex Twin, Four Tet, etc.)

 

So far in my research some of the ones I'm considering are;

 

ATH-M30's, 40's

Samson SR850's

Sennheiser 555

 

Any recommendations are highly appreciated.  I'm open to anything, not just the ones mentioned above!  

 

 

 

 

For your genres, maybe something like the Sony XB500
 

 



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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

Stupid question, but how do you think the Grado SR-60i compares to the Sennheiser HD 595?


Very different sounds. I would personally pick the 595.

 



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Originally Posted by JAG07 View Post

I've been reading pretty much everything this place has to offer. My wallet is scared if I really get into this obsession. I have narrowed down my choices. I know these have very different sound, sound stage, and strong points but I'm looking for opinions on which are better to begin my head-fi experience.

 

AKG Q701

Shure SRH 840 

Audio technica M50 and A900

AKG K 271 MkII

 

I also believe I will be purchasing an iBasso D6.

 

Thanks for any opinions. 


For a general starting point, go with the 840 or M50.

 



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Originally Posted by WoahReQQuiem View Post

Hey guys, 
   Someone is offering me both Grado SR80i and SR225i, both are modded + woodied (same modifications on both). What would be the better option? Is the extra $100 gonna improve the sound that much?

 Edit: How would they compare with the Monster Turbine Pro Copper, in terms of build quality? Also, which of them sounds better? MTPC or modded+woodied Grados?


Can you listen and decide for yourself?

 

Can't compare to the mtpc, but that's really an apples to oranges thing.

 



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Originally Posted by TaskMasterSteve View Post

I want to get either ultasone pro750s or some ultrasone dj1 pros.i like to listen to hip hop and rock and some alternative hippie rock. I am new to higher end headphones and would really like some recommendations thanks


Go with the Pro750.

 



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Originally Posted by TheUbiquitous View Post

Wow this thread is flooded with questions! Yeah well I understand that it may be impossible to answer them all, but I'd appreciate any comments. I have to make my call today and this is what I'm thinking so far:

Audio Technica M50 (mind pretty made up on these)

Fischer Audio 004 (not so much here, what I'm looking for is a good and broad soundstage in a well isolated can)

Fiio E7 (will it make a difference?)

I'd like to know if there is anything comparable to the 004 for under 100$, and if the E7 makes sense with these phones or it's unnecesary.

My portable player has a 37mW x2 amp.

Cheers!

 

Edit: these 3 things add up to approx. 400 U$S, maybe you can come up with a better way to spend that much, which is my current limit.


I would personally look for the second cans to have a significantly different sound signature, maybe open instead of closed. It's nice to have the wider variety. You don't really need an amp either.

 

post #4723 of 29490
Why is there any debate on this? We all know headphones sound better with a good amp and dac. So everyone should obviously buy one. If you cannot afford them buy the headphones you want and grab the amp/dac in a future purchase. But to say that you can ink by without one, you're seriously missing out.
post #4724 of 29490

Armaegis (or anyone else :) ): Yes I thought that also but coudln't find anything within the price range. If an amp is unnecessary though, that might allow for more expensive open cans that still dont need amping right?

I have been reading on the senn's hd558 but found much contradiction on reviews, and many say that they require amping.


Edited by TheUbiquitous - 6/16/11 at 9:38am
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Would like to have some more opinions plz :).
 

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Originally Posted by friesfrombelgium View Post

Hi guys

 

I currently own a hd555 in combination with an audigy 2 zs (I rock) which I use for watching movies, listening to music (rock, trance, pop,... a bit of everything) and gaming.

 

I like them a lot, they are cheap and for me the quality is good enough. But... they are getting a bit old (lot's of cracks etc etc) so I need a new headphone. I had an ad-700 a few years ago, I really loved it, but at that time my head was too small for them :). Now i'd like to try them again but first I'd like your opinions.

 

I live in Belgium, Europe and my max budget is about €150.

 

Thanks 



 

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