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post #4426 of 29490

 

Hello, head-fiers.

 

A bit new to the community, but since I've been in the market for some headphones, I figured I'd ask a few questions on here. A while ago, I bought some IEMs, ER-4Ps, but with an upcoming job change I'm going to be traveling more often. While I love my ER-4Ps, they're not necessarily comfortable for me for longer durations.

 

Ultimately, I've settled on some ANC headphones since the job would ultimately require flying and have been torn between two. (Originally was three but I removed the Beats by Dre because the heavy bass/awesome looks does not justify purchasing something that's reported easy to break and has sound leakage)

 

Sennheiser PXC 450

Bose QC15

 

Now, I'm aware people on here don't necessarily like Bose, but I don't want to start anything with regards to it. I don't believe that they have the best sound ever, but I'm convinced that they're a solid investment.

 

For the most part, it's come down to that the Sennheiser is generally superior with it's sound quality, while the Bose have superior noise cancellation.

 

Are there any other ANC sets that I should look at as well? Or should I just settle with the Sennheiser or Bose? Is there anybody on here that have used both and have more of an active opinion of them? I love bass, but would prefer not to have any irritation on any highs or lows.

 

Extra consideration: My music fluctuates as use my laptop/desktop/phone for most of my listening. I use Slacker Radio, often, but also have FLACs for certain music and MP3s in general that range from 128-320kbps. I will, however, also be using the phones for gaming/movies. As for my taste in music, it also fluctuates. For example, here's a typical rundown for an hour of music with me: Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Billy Joel, Franz Ferdinand, Jonathan Coulton, The Killers, The Shins, Rush, Bob Dylan, The Who, U2, The Pillows, Red Hot Chili Peppers, ACDC, Gorillaz, The Eagles, Boston, Billy Idol, etc.. And then, it could completely change and I'll listen to movie/various OSTs like The Rock (Harry Gregson Williams), Lord of the Rings (Howard Shore), John Williams, Nobuo Uematsu, Hans Zimmer, etc. etc.

 

This is probably a bit longer then most "NEED HALP", but any feedback would be welcome as the sooner I get some real advice (Friend: "Well, I like my Bose QC3s, so I'd stick with Bose.") the earlier I can make my decision.

post #4427 of 29490

(First post here in about 2000 posts since my last check in here)

 

I'm going to go against the grain and say the Sony NC500D sounded pretty good when I tried them at a Sony store. They have a nice, warm sound, which works with quite a few of your bands. Basically, it was a more refined version of the QC15's. Although they seem to have reliability problems.

post #4428 of 29490
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Originally Posted by SemperMalum View Post

 

Hello, head-fiers.

 

A bit new to the community, but since I've been in the market for some headphones, I figured I'd ask a few questions on here. A while ago, I bought some IEMs, ER-4Ps, but with an upcoming job change I'm going to be traveling more often. While I love my ER-4Ps, they're not necessarily comfortable for me for longer durations.

 

Ultimately, I've settled on some ANC headphones since the job would ultimately require flying and have been torn between two. (Originally was three but I removed the Beats by Dre because the heavy bass/awesome looks does not justify purchasing something that's reported easy to break and has sound leakage)

 

Sennheiser PXC 450

Bose QC15

 

Now, I'm aware people on here don't necessarily like Bose, but I don't want to start anything with regards to it. I don't believe that they have the best sound ever, but I'm convinced that they're a solid investment.

 

For the most part, it's come down to that the Sennheiser is generally superior with it's sound quality, while the Bose have superior noise cancellation.

 

Are there any other ANC sets that I should look at as well? Or should I just settle with the Sennheiser or Bose? Is there anybody on here that have used both and have more of an active opinion of them? I love bass, but would prefer not to have any irritation on any highs or lows.

 

Extra consideration: My music fluctuates as use my laptop/desktop/phone for most of my listening. I use Slacker Radio, often, but also have FLACs for certain music and MP3s in general that range from 128-320kbps. I will, however, also be using the phones for gaming/movies. As for my taste in music, it also fluctuates. For example, here's a typical rundown for an hour of music with me: Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Billy Joel, Franz Ferdinand, Jonathan Coulton, The Killers, The Shins, Rush, Bob Dylan, The Who, U2, The Pillows, Red Hot Chili Peppers, ACDC, Gorillaz, The Eagles, Boston, Billy Idol, etc.. And then, it could completely change and I'll listen to movie/various OSTs like The Rock (Harry Gregson Williams), Lord of the Rings (Howard Shore), John Williams, Nobuo Uematsu, Hans Zimmer, etc. etc.

 

This is probably a bit longer then most "NEED HALP", but any feedback would be welcome as the sooner I get some real advice (Friend: "Well, I like my Bose QC3s, so I'd stick with Bose.") the earlier I can make my decision.


i tried the Bose QC15. they're comfortable and the active noise cancelling works well, the rest is a joke.
post #4429 of 29490
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Originally Posted by agit View Post



I dont think so. Isnt the M-50 better than Shure? As I said before I listen to hiphop. If Shure is better, are they nice to wear in the streets?
 

 


It's all a matter of taste. I like the 840 more than the M50, others will say M50 over 840. Or follow the current trend and look at the 940 or Pro700 which seem to be upgrades to both.

 



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Originally Posted by sinphase View Post

hi, i'm looking into buying the klipsch image one's, mainly for commuting. i've heard generally good things about them, but this one review on amazon said that they sounded pretty much the same as the sennhiser hd202's, which i currently own. any thoughts? 


I haven't heard them, but the Klipsch headphones don't seem to rate particularly well here. Just keep reading for a bit and it will become apparent which headphones get recommended above others. Joker's large portables review thread is also a good place to start (link in the first post of thie thread)

 



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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

I have tried out the PortaPros and the HD202s.  The PortaPros run circles around the HD202s.
 



 


So,

KOSS PortaPro (32EUR)
Gamecom367 (28EUR)
Sennheiser HD201 (20 EUR)
Sennheiser HD202-II (32EUR)
Sennheiser HD408 (30EUR)

The HD202 are supposed to be better than the HD201, right? And how do they compare with the HD408?

 

The 202 is closed, the 408 is open. Do you need the isolation?
 

 


 

 

post #4430 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

 



 

The 202 is closed, the 408 is open. Do you need the isolation?
 

 


 

 


As I said, they are for home-use only. So, I don't think it's that important. Unless you disagree.. I'm really not (yet!) an expert!
post #4431 of 29490
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

You're missing my point.  The point is that it is a digital signal and it won't degrade unlike an analog signal.  You won't hear any static or any of that.  The other solutions are noisy and disturbing, and no, not anything can do that.  For those sort of low power devices, 200 KByte/sec is pretty fast.  Heck, even if you don't go with the Kleer solutions, at least go digital, you will be glad you did.
 



 

 

That was exactly my point :) Since the transmission is digital, its quality does not depend on the carrier (as long as losses are not too high). 200KB/s is somewhat less that 1mbit/sec, that is bandwidth of (ancient) fast infrared and original 802.11.

As for digital, I tonally agree. So what I want is wireless headphones with _digital_ transmission and _digital_ input. Sorry if I was not clear.

post #4432 of 29490

I'm looking for a pair of closed headphones to block out my roommate in the room next to me. He is just too loud and I can still hear him through my HD650s. I am looking for a pair of closed circumaurals that can do this and are good all arounders for around $250 (used or new). I have already tried the DT770 and the m50 so please don't recommend those cause the bass was too much on the beyers and I just found the m50s uncomfortable. I was thinking D2000s, but was told that they are basically semi closed cause the isolation and leakage is terrible. Any ideas?

 

Edit: Realized I was being stupid and bought a pair of Ety Earplugs instead. Still curious if I would like the D2000s though.


Edited by singha - 6/5/11 at 2:23pm
post #4433 of 29490

Hi guys, new here! I'm looking for a few pairs of headphones and am honestly kind of lost. blink.gif I'd like to have 1 pair for mixing and a few for enjoyment. The problem is I listen to a WIDE variety of music-Jazz, Rock, Funk, Power and Prog Metal, Blues, and Classical. I understand that some cans work for certain styles but not very well for others. I'm considering Grado's for the Rock and Metal, but what should I pick for the other styles? Will I need more then 2 headphones to listen to this many styles? Price range= $150, give or take 50$ per pair. Thanks a lot! smile_phones.gif


Edited by XPenguin - 6/5/11 at 2:02pm
post #4434 of 29490
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Originally Posted by MGuedes View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

 

The 202 is closed, the 408 is open. Do you need the isolation?

 


As I said, they are for home-use only. So, I don't think it's that important. Unless you disagree.. I'm really not (yet!) an expert!


As a very broad generalization, open tends to offer better soundstage while closed offers better bass. Does your home have any noisy distractions? Usually open headphones are ok for home unless you are competing against noise.

 



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Originally Posted by singha View Post

I'm looking for a pair of closed headphones to block out my roommate in the room next to me. He is just too loud and I can still hear him through my HD650s. I am looking for a pair of closed circumaurals that can do this and are good all arounders for around $250 (used or new). I have already tried the DT770 and the m50 so please don't recommend those cause the bass was too much on the beyers and I just found the m50s uncomfortable. I was thinking D2000s, but was told that they are basically semi closed cause the isolation and leakage is terrible. Any ideas?

 

Edit: Realized I was being stupid and bought a pair of Ety Earplugs instead. Still curious if I would like the D2000s though.


The D2000 has a very deep and present bass which isn't loud per se, but it extends quite low and those harmonics make it *feel* louder.

 



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Originally Posted by XPenguin View Post

Hi guys, new here! I'm looking for a few pairs of headphones and am honestly kind of lost. blink.gif I'd like to have 1 pair for mixing and a few for enjoyment. The problem is I listen to a WIDE variety of music-Jazz, Rock, Funk, Power and Prog Metal, Blues, and Classical. I understand that some cans work for certain styles but not very well for others. I'm considering Grado's for the Rock and Metal, but what should I pick for the other styles? Will I need more then 2 headphones to listen to this many styles? Price range= $150, give or take 50$ per pair. Thanks a lot! smile_phones.gif


Your mixing headphones should have a flat response and have good isolation (unless you have a studio room to work in). Some standard choices here are the Sony V6, Senn HD280, AKG K701.

 

The whole notion of "some cans work better for some genres" is really a matter of how your tastes for sound reproduction mesh with your desired genres. For the majority of users, this honestly translates into how much bass quantity they want. For the rest of us nuts, there are things like impulse response and phase shift and decay/resonance and all that other witchcraft.

 

Some people are perfectly ok with one set of headphones for all their listening needs. Some of us like to collect things and devote closet space to hang our headphones.

 

Aside from your mixing/monitoring pair, my recommendation for the others is to buy a couple budget cans from various brands to get a feel for what their brand signature is like. My own journey began with the Grado SR60, Sennheiser PX100 (now PX100-ii), Koss KSC75 and Shure 840.

post #4435 of 29490
@ Armaegis

No, not really.. It's quite quiet, most of the time. What do you advise, then?
post #4436 of 29490

Get some open headphones then.

post #4437 of 29490

Hi guys,

I have a $230 max budget, willing to buy from the FS forum here.  I'm looking for an open headphone for general listening, mainly rock/alternative but a bunch of jazz as well, and some orchestral.  Amping/sourcing with a MAV D1.  Suggestions? HD600? DT880?  Others?

post #4438 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Ishcabible View Post

(First post here in about 2000 posts since my last check in here)

 

I'm going to go against the grain and say the Sony NC500D sounded pretty good when I tried them at a Sony store. They have a nice, warm sound, which works with quite a few of your bands. Basically, it was a more refined version of the QC15's. Although they seem to have reliability problems.


I took a brief look, and unfortunately it seems they receive less favorable reviews, about on par with the Beats by Dre. A lot of complaints about it being uncomfortable.

 

post #4439 of 29490

Hey all, been looking around for a while for a good set of cans.  I have been trying to read around and learn as much as I can, but still find myself unable to narrow down my choices.  I have always used crappy ibuds or something similar until a year ago when I got a pair of Beats . . . for free, back off!  I know these are insanely overpriced for their quality, but they are a step in the right direction of becoming an audiophile, and I am selling them and buying a better pair of headphones is my plan.  I am a bit of a pc nerd, saying that to say that I have a pc I built this year with an Asus Xonar DX sound card that I will be using 90% of the time as the source for these.  My budget is $200, pretty solid on that.  I want to use them for a pretty even mix of gaming and music, although I don't play much multi-player shooters or anything, so I don't need amazing gaming headphones, but they will be used for it.  I would rather sacrifice gaming quality to gain music performance.  I listen to a wide mix of music, lots of pop, classical, and a little bit of rap and rock.  I would really prefer closed headphones I am pretty sure, I dont like making other people listen to what I am, but if I will get much better sound from open ones, I am willing to go that route.  And as far as amped or unamped, unamped seems nice for convenience, but once again I'm willing to go amped if it will give me better quality.

 

Sorry if that is too long and vague, but I would really appreciate any help that you can give me, including places to go and read up to make decisions on my own so I don't burden all of you too much.  Thanks again everyone, can't wait to get them!

post #4440 of 29490
Shure SRH840 vs Audio-Technica ATHM50 vs Beyerdynamic DT 770-PRO

After countless hours of research and shopping around I have narrowed my search down to 3 pairs of headphones, but I am open to all suggestions. I found all 3 on amazon the cheapest being the shures at 138 followed by the m50s at 155 and the beyers being the most expensive at 174. I listen to mostly dubstep hardstyle bass heavy music, and currently own the senn hd448 on an asus essence stx. tips and suggestions are welcome!!
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