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post #4066 of 29490

Quote Armaegis:

 

If you're not listening at high volumes, the HD598 should be fine out of an ipod. I would recommend getting a small portable amp though. Still, I wouldn't go with the 5xx series for electronic and would rather stick to a closed headphone like the Senn HD25-1-ii or an Ultrasone.
 

 

I have no idea how to properly quote your reply (sorry) but thanks for your advice!

I have done some more research regarding open and closed headphones and I think I narrowed it down to these two:

- Sennheiser HD25-1 ii

- Audio Technica ATH-M50

 

What would be the more wise choice to get when you consider my listening habbits?

Again, I'm listening mostly to electronic music like techno, trance, dance, rap and also some drum 'n bass primarily from my iPad and iPhone @ above average volume.

I also may get a cheap portable amp.

 

Unfortunately I have no option to listen to them from where I live.

post #4067 of 29490

Hello! I'm an italian user and I'm searching for some advices here... I can see that this community is big, hopefully helpful! :D
Anyway, I would like to buy a new pair of full-size headphones. My budget is about 200-250$; I listen to various genres of music, mainly: R&B (with a lot of vocals), Hip-Hop, Dance (and various sub-genres), Rock, Pop, Alternative Rock. I can't consider myself a basshead, although I like listening to dance, trance songs. My first choice are the Sennheiser hd 598, but I read some reviews that said that they are not that good on basses. Now, I have a pair of Bose On-Ear, and I can say that I have a lot of fun listening to heavy-bass music, but now I'd like to change. I like the Sennheisers because of their look and above all because I read that, in general, they sound really good, balanced, and the have unbelievable mids. I'm only afraid that there will be this lack of bass. What I would like to know is: is this lack of bass that noticeable? Would it be a problem that would make me "stop listening to dance music"? If they are that bad, i'd really like to know what model of headphone would be suitable to me...

Well, thank you and sorry if I made any mistake, my english is not perfect... :)

 

Edit: I have an amplificator at home (Technics), but I'll use my headphones also with my iPhone.

 


Edited by hankmoody - 5/18/11 at 9:52am
post #4068 of 29490

Purely based on sound I'd take the HD 25-1 II. They're a little less bass oriented than the M50, but IMO are better everywhere else, and especially for portability. Neither of them are particularly comfortable, thought I'd give the M50 the edge on that one. I used to think bass was all that mattered with EDM, but once I got a slightly more balanced headphone I realized how much I was missing.

 

I listen to mainly EDM (as it seems you do), and that's my 2 cents.
 

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Originally Posted by MarkieMark View Post

 

I have no idea how to properly quote your reply (sorry) but thanks for your advice!

I have done some more research regarding open and closed headphones and I think I narrowed it down to these two:

- Sennheiser HD25-1 ii

- Audio Technica ATH-M50

 

What would be the more wise choice to get when you consider my listening habbits?

Again, I'm listening mostly to electronic music like techno, trance, dance, rap and also some drum 'n bass primarily from my iPad and iPhone @ above average volume.

I also may get a cheap portable amp.

 

Unfortunately I have no option to listen to them from where I live.



 

 

post #4069 of 29490

If you want bass with the HD 598, an amp is mandatory.  The bass is just fine however if you do have an amp.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by hankmoody View Post

Hello! I'm an italian user and I'm searching for some advices here... I can see that this community is big, hopefully helpful! :D
Anyway, I would like to buy a new pair of full-size headphones. My budget is about 200-250$; I listen to various genres of music, mainly: R&B (with a lot of vocals), Hip-Hop, Dance (and various sub-genres), Rock, Pop, Alternative Rock. I can't consider myself a basshead, although I like listening to dance, trance songs. My first choice are the Sennheiser hd 598, but I read some reviews that said that they are not that good on basses. Now, I have a pair of Bose On-Ear, and I can say that I have a lot of fun listening to heavy-bass music, but now I'd like to change. I like the Sennheisers because of their look and above all because I read that, in general, they sound really good, balanced, and the have unbelievable mids. I'm only afraid that there will be this lack of bass. What I would like to know is: is this lack of bass that noticeable? Would it be a problem that would make me "stop listening to dance music"? If they are that bad, i'd really like to know what model of headphone would be suitable to me...

Well, thank you and sorry if I made any mistake, my english is not perfect... :)

 

Edit: I have an amplificator at home (Technics), but I'll use my headphones also with my iPhone.

 

 

 



 

post #4070 of 29490
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Originally Posted by indy1314 View Post


So what player do you think best fit and drive the dj1 pro?

 

i would like to get a mp3 player for my dj1 pro.

is the a845 or cowon s9 better for hip-hop / rap, more bassy mp3 player.

Or any other mp3 player are better?

It is iphone or any apple product wouldn't drive the dj1 pro?

 


Just get the player with the best feature set vs price for you. There isn't a "bassy" mp3 player, but look for one with a good equalizer. Either that or one that you an rockbox so you can use the equalizer there.

 

 



 



 



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Originally Posted by DuckSoup View Post

Thanks for answers.


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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

It's very difficult to get good soundstage and isolation together. Are you a casual gamer or a competitive one?

 

 

The 770 has the best isolation of the ones you've listed (and actually is one of the best isolating of any headphone out there), but it also wants an amp to sounds its best as a laptop may not have enough power to even get loud levels out of it.

 

The M50 is a safe choice and plays reasonably well across a lot of genres and is easy to drive.



Regarding games - only game I play semi competitively is Starcraft 2 and sound doesnt matter that much in this, I like to play some 3D shooter from time to time tho. As I mentioned - I am planing to buy some DAC with amp soon after cans, however I thought about some cheap one like E7. Will it be enough to drive DT 770?

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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

The Sennheisers, since you mention the movies and games.  They are good all arounders.  For the faster stuff like the metal, they will be pretty good (not Grado good, but good.)
 



I am almost sold on HD598 after reading forum a bit more, but more opinions and suggestions are always welcome.


You had mentioned that you wanted some isolation. In that case, go with one of the closed Beyer DT models as mentioned by another user (I believe he suggested the 150, and there's also the 250, and they also have mic variants)

 

post #4071 of 29490

Mh, I understood... I don't want to lose quality on the other genres only because of the bass, you know... I think this headphones would be excellent with artists like Leona Lewis, Coldplay, Boston... But wiht an amp I can also listen to dance-trance... Did I get it? :D
So, thank you for the advice, other advices would be obviously appreciated! :)
 

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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

If you want bass with the HD 598, an amp is mandatory.  The bass is just fine however if you do have an amp.
 

 

 

 



 



 

post #4072 of 29490
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Purely based on sound I'd take the HD 25-1 II. They're a little less bass oriented than the M50, but IMO are better everywhere else, and especially for portability. Neither of them are particularly comfortable, thought I'd give the M50 the edge on that one. I used to think bass was all that mattered with EDM, but once I got a slightly more balanced headphone I realized how much I was missing.

 

I listen to mainly EDM (as it seems you do), and that's my 2 cents.
 



 

 


I had to Google EDM (lol!) but yes, the majority of music I listen to is EDM. And again yes, I am currently thinking bass is super important for EDM.

Portability is of no importance to me, comfortability is. I do get a little nervous when you (and others) say the HD25-1 ii is less bass oriented.

 

That is especially the case since I recently bought a pair of in-ear a-jays four where all the reviews claimed they would sound awesome with great bass.

But, I am extremely disappointed with them! Almost no bass, and very weak sound.

post #4073 of 29490
Quote:
Originally Posted by excelsior View Post

how is senn hd 25 -1 - ii compare to fullsize or fullsize +amp in similar price??

considering only sound quality?? smily_headphones1.gif

budget around 150euro.i mainly listen to jazz, rock, pop, rnb

 

it will good if you can help me in other questions in my thread here ;)

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/554476/need-recommendation-what-and-where-to-spend

 

thanx before


The HD25-1-ii is an excellent headphone. It betters the M50 in nearly every category... but you pay a price premium for it. Whether or not that's worth the difference is up to you and your wallet. The M50 is no slouch, but I would pick the HD25.

 



Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkieMark View Post

 

I have no idea how to properly quote your reply (sorry) but thanks for your advice!

I have done some more research regarding open and closed headphones and I think I narrowed it down to these two:

- Sennheiser HD25-1 ii

- Audio Technica ATH-M50

 

What would be the more wise choice to get when you consider my listening habbits?

Again, I'm listening mostly to electronic music like techno, trance, dance, rap and also some drum 'n bass primarily from my iPad and iPhone @ above average volume.

I also may get a cheap portable amp.

 

Unfortunately I have no option to listen to them from where I live.


Do you prefer earpad or full sized? I say choose based on comfort.

 



Quote:
Originally Posted by hankmoody View Post

Hello! I'm an italian user and I'm searching for some advices here... I can see that this community is big, hopefully helpful! :D
Anyway, I would like to buy a new pair of full-size headphones. My budget is about 200-250$; I listen to various genres of music, mainly: R&B (with a lot of vocals), Hip-Hop, Dance (and various sub-genres), Rock, Pop, Alternative Rock. I can't consider myself a basshead, although I like listening to dance, trance songs. My first choice are the Sennheiser hd 598, but I read some reviews that said that they are not that good on basses. Now, I have a pair of Bose On-Ear, and I can say that I have a lot of fun listening to heavy-bass music, but now I'd like to change. I like the Sennheisers because of their look and above all because I read that, in general, they sound really good, balanced, and the have unbelievable mids. I'm only afraid that there will be this lack of bass. What I would like to know is: is this lack of bass that noticeable? Would it be a problem that would make me "stop listening to dance music"? If they are that bad, i'd really like to know what model of headphone would be suitable to me...

Well, thank you and sorry if I made any mistake, my english is not perfect... :)

 

Edit: I have an amplificator at home (Technics), but I'll use my headphones also with my iPhone.

 

 

 


The 598 should be fine, but bear in mind that they are open. If you're in any type of noisy environment, it will be difficult to enjoy your music.

 

post #4074 of 29490

It IS super important, but it's not all that matters...If you value comfort though be very careful with the 25s and the M50s, honestly.

 

The 25s clamping force was too much for me, and the M50s headband is aggravating to some as well.

 

You may want to check out the Phiaton MS 400. I found them a little loose, but that made them very comfortable, and they're excellent for EDM.

 

To be honest, they're all good choices. I'd probably rank them MS 400, 25-1 II, M50. The reasoning behind this is that while the M50 has nice bass, they're very muddy. The other 2 may sound like they have 'less' bass, but it's really the fact that it's not bleeding into the rest of the music.

 

EDIT:

Best sound - Senn 25

Best comfort - MS 400
 

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Originally Posted by MarkieMark View Post




I had to Google EDM (lol!) but yes, the majority of music I listen to is EDM. And again yes, I am currently thinking bass is super important for EDM.

Portability is of no importance to me, comfortability is. I do get a little nervous when you (and others) say the HD25-1 ii is less bass oriented.

 

That is especially the case since I recently bought a pair of in-ear a-jays four where all the reviews claimed they would sound awesome with great bass.

But, I am extremely disappointed with them! Almost no bass, and very weak sound.



 

 


Edited by MorbidToaster - 5/18/11 at 10:56am
post #4075 of 29490

Well, this isn't my problem... I'll mainly use them in my room. I think that I could use them with the Bose, I mean without selling the Bose, for outdoor listening. Thank You!
 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




The HD25-1-ii is an excellent headphone. It betters the M50 in nearly every category... but you pay a price premium for it. Whether or not that's worth the difference is up to you and your wallet. The M50 is no slouch, but I would pick the HD25.

 




Do you prefer earpad or full sized? I say choose based on comfort.

 



 

 

 


The 598 should be fine, but bear in mind that they are open. If you're in any type of noisy environment, it will be difficult to enjoy your music.

 



 

post #4076 of 29490

I love posting in this thread sometimes. :D

 

Alright...So...My anniversary is coming up and I want to get my fiancee (dating anniversary, not marriage...hoping to change that very soon) a nice pair of headphones.

 

She loves...LOVES...David Bowie, and general 80s glam stuff. She's also into 90s pop, but much less so.

 

I'm thinkin' Grados, but it's always good to get a second opinion. The other thing that's nice about Grados is I can mod them and personalize it a little beyond 'a pair of headphones'.

 

Suggest away!

post #4077 of 29490
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

It IS super important, but it's not all that matters...If you value comfort though be very careful with the 25s and the M50s, honestly.

 

The 25s clamping force was too much for me, and the M50s headband is aggravating to some as well.

 

You may want to check out the Phiaton MS 400. I found them a little loose, but that made them very comfortable, and they're excellent for EDM.

 

To be honest, they're all good choices. I'd probably rank them MS 400, 25-1 II, M50. The reasoning behind this is that while the M50 has nice bass, they're very muddy. The other 2 may sound like they have 'less' bass, but it's really the fact that it's not bleeding into the rest of the music.

 

EDIT:

Best sound - Senn 25

Best comfort - MS 400
 


I actually found the MS400 a little tight, but I have a wide head. Ranking wise, I would actually put the HD25 for better comfort, and the MS400 for better sound. The HD25 wins hands down for ruggedness and isolation. The MS400 wins for girl appeal. biggrin.gif

 

post #4078 of 29490

Tighter than the 25-1? ...Weirdo... (lol)

 

I really like the MS 400...Not sure why I haven't bought another pair for my portables...
 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




I actually found the MS400 a little tight, but I have a wide head. Ranking wise, I would actually put the HD25 for better comfort, and the MS400 for better sound. The HD25 wins hands down for ruggedness and isolation. The MS400 wins for girl appeal. biggrin.gif

 



 

 

post #4079 of 29490

Oh whoops, I should have separated the sentences there.

 

The HD25 is definitely tighter than the MS400. I was just saying that the MS400 is still a tight fit on my head.

post #4080 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




The M50 are not really flat, and the K271 don't sound that great without an amp. Both are ok on the isolation though. The K271 is kinda big for portable as well, and doesn't collapse in any way. The Shure 440 has fairly flat response and does fold up, plus is easier to drive.

 

King of isolation in your price range would be the Sennheiser HD280. Practically an industry standard, well built, collapsible, flat response, not the greatest soundstage.

 

The Sony 7509 is the step up, but there are mixed reviews. I say if you were happy with the 7506, then stick with that (also look up the V6 which is basically the same thing but often cheaper).

 



Thanks for the heads up.  I don't necessarily need "king" level of isolation.  NYC subway makes a racket on its own, but when I'm in the mood for some Misery Index I don't want to scare the little old ladies next to me evil_smiley.gif.  I also am not against getting an amp if that will help the sound blossom.  But I'd definitely like to keep the amp price under $100 and portable enabled.  The Audigy 2 ZS has a DAC in it so that should be acceptable (am I right?).  The size of the K271 shouldn't be an issue since I always have my backpack with me. 

 

Is the K271 with a Fiio E5 (or E11 when available) a higher class of SQ than a 7506/V6?  If I wanted a step-up from 7506 that is closed back and over-the-ear, that seems like a good combo.  Also anyone know a store in NYC where I can go listen to some nice cans like these?

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