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post #4021 of 29490
It's really stupid here =/ The HD25s are almost as expensive as the P5s so I'll probably just go with the P5s
post #4022 of 29490

You're getting a great headphone either way. I personally would take P5s over the 25s any day.
 

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It's really stupid here =/ The HD25s are almost as expensive as the P5s so I'll probably just go with the P5s


 

 

post #4023 of 29490

 

will i like the HD650?
 
well, im going to upgrade my cans. currently i have a modded wooden grado sr80i with bowl pads. of course its hard not to enjoy the PRaT and in-your face sound of the SR80i even in jazz records.
i want to explore higher-end headphones, maybe of a different league/plane. so i thought of purchasing the HD650. i have a DIY EL84 tube amp to use it with.
 
most of the time i listen to the following:
 
norah jones (im a big sucker for norah)
ac/dc (especially when waking up or walking down the street)
pink floyd - wall/darkside/wish you were here (coffee time)
regina spektor (not really but some girl whom i spend a lot of time with listens to her a lot)
massive attack (due to rave bass reviews)
beatles (of course, you gotta love the raw groove)
jimi hendrix (axis and many others)
diana krall and sara k (stolen from an uncle. yummy tunes)
 
and uhhh i might not be able to get a return for this item once its shipped.
post #4024 of 29490
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will i like the HD650?

 

Hard to say if you will like it, coming from Grado just know it's a very warm sound. That said the warmth when you get used too it will be intimacy and depth, an easy listen you'll find yourself getting lost in the sound. If however you instantly compare them to your Grado's you'll find them muddy and likely detail lacking due to less treble energy.

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Originally Posted by hi-fiber View Post

 

will i like the HD650?
 
well, im going to upgrade my cans. currently i have a modded wooden grado sr80i with bowl pads. of course its hard not to enjoy the PRaT and in-your face sound of the SR80i even in jazz records.
i want to explore higher-end headphones, maybe of a different league/plane. so i thought of purchasing the HD650. i have a DIY EL84 tube amp to use it with.
 
most of the time i listen to the following:
 
norah jones (im a big sucker for norah)
ac/dc (especially when waking up or walking down the street)
pink floyd - wall/darkside/wish you were here (coffee time)
regina spektor (not really but some girl whom i spend a lot of time with listens to her a lot)
massive attack (due to rave bass reviews)
beatles (of course, you gotta love the raw groove)
jimi hendrix (axis and many others)
diana krall and sara k (stolen from an uncle. yummy tunes)
 
and uhhh i might not be able to get a return for this item once its shipped.


The HD650s are great with female vocals but you might find the bass extension lacking for electronica and similar genres.  Some people hate them with rock and metal, but I didn't really mind and metal is my primary genre.  They aren't innately bad with stuff like that but most people who are fans of it also like a more forward and aggressive sound which the HD650 don't have.

 

Since it sounds like you're into DIY you might want to consider modding a Fostex T50RP.  I've got mine to the point where they easily outclass my HD650s (my previous favorites at any sane price) in almost every area and I haven't even put them in wooden cups yet.  You'll need an amp with some decent output current though and I don't know enough about different tube types to say if the EL84 will handle it.

post #4026 of 29490
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That's a great price for the D7000. Was it a sale?

 

In general, the Denons are pretty easy to drive. If you're satisfied with the sound, no need to upgrade. You can always use a home receiver for power.


 

I called J&R and talked to a sales Rep. I send him an email of an online site selling them from $570 with a code or $650 (I believe these numbers are correct). He talked to management and said $700 is as low as he can go. I bit as I was unsure about the legitimacy of the other site and their online 'help' i spoke with so I went with J&R.

 

I messaged MorbidToaster and he gave me the suggestion for the FiiO e7/e9 combo. I had no idea why you needed a DAC and AMP nor how they worked until today. eek.gif I appreciate the input and am highly considering picking those up.

 

The next thing I need to do is figure out all the jargon and the reasoning behind it.

 

 

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Would it be worth it to spend more on a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 440 headphones over a pair of ATH-AD700 or Senn HD555 for EMB and Industrial music? Would the DT 440 have noticeably better bass characteristics? Which of those three would anyone recommend?

 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

In general, closed headphones will give you better bass than open ones. The AD700 and HD555 are not going to satisfy you in the bass if you're looking for heavy thump.



I'm not looking for a heavy thump. I'm just looking for the best overall sound in my budget. I've read that open back headphones have better soundstages than closed back, and been told almost any music, especially electronic, can benefit from a wider soundstage. As for bass, I just want it to be clean, accurate, and punchy. I believe all three of those headphones, the DT 440, AD700, and HD555 are open and within my budget. What I'm asking is if the production and advertised more dynamic punch to the music is any better than the other two and worth spending up to $50 more for?

 

They will be driven off of either a Xonar DX or Titanium HD sound card. I have no plans for an amp just yet.


Edited by RebelExtrm02 - 5/16/11 at 10:35pm
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I called J&R and talked to a sales Rep. I send him an email of an online site selling them from $570 with a code or $650 (I believe these numbers are correct). He talked to management and said $700 is as low as he can go. I bit as I was unsure about the legitimacy of the other site and their online 'help' i spoke with so I went with J&R.

 

I messaged MorbidToaster and he gave me the suggestion for the FiiO e7/e9 combo. I had no idea why you needed a DAC and AMP nor how they worked until today. eek.gif I appreciate the input and am highly considering picking those up.

 

The next thing I need to do is figure out all the jargon and the reasoning behind it.

 

 

The dac is basically what converts the digital information into an analog voltage signal. This signal goes through an amp which provides the current to match, as well as usually multiplying the voltage by some factor.

 

A dac/amp is really just a fancy name for a sound card that makes us audiophiles feel better. Your basic computer sound card does an ok job, but typically suffers from lousy power supply and noise from neighbouring computer components. Most ipods and mp3 players are ok, but basically have limitations of power (both current and voltage) due to battery and other design limitation.

 

That all said, the e7/e9 is a popular and good bang for the buck solution. I recommend trying out your current gear first before diving into the upgrades.

post #4029 of 29490
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Originally Posted by RebelExtrm02 View Post

 

I'm not looking for a heavy thump. I'm just looking for the best overall sound in my budget. I've read that open back headphones have better soundstages than closed back, and been told almost any music, especially electronic, can benefit from a wider soundstage. As for bass, I just want it to be clean, accurate, and punchy. I believe all three of those headphones, the DT 440, AD700, and HD555 are open and within my budget. What I'm asking is if the production and advertised more dynamic punch to the music is any better than the other two and worth spending up to $50 more for?

 

They will be driven off of either a Xonar DX or Titanium HD sound card. I have no plans for an amp just yet.



The DT440 aren't well known here, and I've never heard them either. Maybe just search around a bit. Here's one thread with some info and links: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/484918/about-the-dt440

 

post #4030 of 29490
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

I have the HD 202s and they really don't have that much bass or impact.  Portapros will leave you MUCH more satisfied.  Hell, you could also get the Grado SR-60i, but some people disagree about the bass.
 



 


Hmm But i noticed the "comfort zone" the portapros have, will they push against my specs? Oh and I did some prodding around and it seems that the portapros are open headphones. Will open/closed headphones affect the quality of music?

My other concerns for portapro is that will it leak out too much sound? I would most likely use the portapro in library/ studying sessions etc

Oh and do you have any good closed headphones in mind? That are not too funky? haha thanks :D

 

post #4031 of 29490

thank you for your reply maverickronin,

 

ive looked into the Fostex T50RP and it got my attention and yeah its a SANE price. ive been needing a headphone for on-the-go listening. i dont want to go all closed because the street has its dangers i need to be aware of. though i wanna know about its efficiency, say, compared to a grado.

 

back to my question,

 

ive been using audiotechs and this grado for a long time and theyre all forward sounding. most of my listening hours are done with coffee relaxing or trying to fall asleep. almost always like getting lost in the sound so i think something with warmth helps. sometimes norah's voice gets over the top with the grado. gets a bit shrill.

post #4032 of 29490

 

anyone can do comparison on v-moda, dj1 pro, and shure 750dj ?

which one is bassy and good for hip-hop / rap?

post #4033 of 29490
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thank you for your reply maverickronin,

 

ive looked into the Fostex T50RP and it got my attention and yeah its a SANE price. ive been needing a headphone for on-the-go listening. i dont want to go all closed because the street has its dangers i need to be aware of. though i wanna know about its efficiency, say, compared to a grado.

 

back to my question,

 

ive been using audiotechs and this grado for a long time and theyre all forward sounding. most of my listening hours are done with coffee relaxing or trying to fall asleep. almost always like getting lost in the sound so i think something with warmth helps. sometimes norah's voice gets over the top with the grado. gets a bit shrill.

 

1)  The T50RP isn't stupid inefficient like the HiFiMans but its less efficient than your average low impedance dynamic like a Grado.  Its specified at something like 98dB/mW but that seems very optimistic to me and mods only reduce the efficiency further.  Unless you damp them to hell a strong single ended portable amp will do the job.  My XM6 is great with them, but you can probably get something a lot cheaper if you don't need want the DAC and extra features.  After typing that last reply I decided to test them again with my Bottlehead Crack and it went better than I remembered.  Since planars/orthos are all mechanically damped and have flat impedance curves you don't have to worry about anything but shear current capacity from a tube amp.  I do listen softer than most people though so my impressions may not be valid for others who want more volume.

 

2)  The HD650s have a slightly lush midrange and soft, gentle, and peak free treble.  The peak free treble is the reason I liked them so much because there aren't many dynamics that can do that.  It makes a few sacrifices in overall fidelity of the highest octaves to achieve that but its nothing major unless you're a real treble head.  All that makes the HD650s very relaxing to listen to and lets you listen for long periods of time without fatigue.

post #4034 of 29490

I have glasses as well, and they don't push against them, the comfort zone pad will be above them.  They are also very comfy for on ear headphones.  They might be a bit loud at the library unless you have them down low.  Being open though, they are going to have better sound quality than closed.  There is nothing wrong with the HD 202s for your purpose, but there are definitely better sounding open phones in the price range.  As for closed...  I really don't know.
 

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Hmm But i noticed the "comfort zone" the portapros have, will they push against my specs? Oh and I did some prodding around and it seems that the portapros are open headphones. Will open/closed headphones affect the quality of music?

My other concerns for portapro is that will it leak out too much sound? I would most likely use the portapro in library/ studying sessions etc

Oh and do you have any good closed headphones in mind? That are not too funky? haha thanks :D

 



 

post #4035 of 29490

I made a thread like an idiot. So I will post in here.

 

I am looking for a pair of Headphones for $60 or less (something Bhphotovideo has would be great). They will be used about 8 hours a day. They will be for radio/podcasting/audio work. However I also want to use them for PC gaming and music.

 

There are a couple catches though. I use very senstivie condenser microphones that pick up EVERYTHING. So if the vocals (while podcasting/radio/recording) leak out of the headphones, the mic will pick it up. Keep in mind though, I do not blast the vocals while doing audio work.

 

The second catch is they can't be Sennheiser or Audio Technica. I am from Canada, and both brands charge double or triple what they do in the states. Americans sites that have them for goodprices (grey market I assume)  refuse to ship to Canada.

 

Someone suggested the Shure SRH240, but I have heard mixed reviews. Any other opinions would be great.


Edited by Trax416 - 5/17/11 at 7:56am
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