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post #3991 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Doc22 View Post

Hi Guys,

 

I'm looking for a new pair of cans and I really don't know much about them so I figured I'd come here to get some advice and some suggestions. I'm a college student right now studying for the MCAT ( if you don't know what that is, it is the exam you have to take to get into med school) and I want a pair of cans to study with. I'm going to be in the dorms, library, my house and other general study places. Right now I have a pair of in ear Bose headphones that I do enjoy but I'm looking to upgrade to something that can cancel out some more noise and lets be honest has better sound quality. Since I really don't know a thing about different types of cans, I looked at the local Best Buy and was looking at the Bose noise cancel-ling headphones or the Dr Dre Beats. I've read the reviews on both of these and have heard good and bad things but I'm not really sure if this is what I'm looking for or not. Lastly, since I am in college and image is still something, they have to look "cool" or stylish (i.e. Beats). That's the back story now for important stuff:

 

Price: $0-$300 (just want to make sure I get my money's worth on the higher priced cans with durability, sound quality etc.

Music genres: mostly rock, classic rock, metal, alternative, some rap and some classical (so pretty much a little of everything)

Type: Looking for over the ear cause I would like something that does cancel out background noise and will help me focus on studying

Sound type: I'm looking for something that is pretty even through all ranges and has bass qualities, just nothing so extreme that it sacrifices other ranges or give a distorted sound quality 

What will power the cans: It will most likely be stuff without an amp because I want them to be portable but specifically my computer and ipod mostly but maybe my phone as well (I may look into an amp later but right now I don't have one)

Location: Dorms, library, house, airport, Starbucks etc (not the gym since I will use my in ear Bose for that)

Durability: They will have to be durable cause I will be using them daily and transporting them a lot 

Looks: Lets be honest they need to look "cool" or stylish cause I am still a college student and image is still something

 

Any help or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

If you need any other information just ask. 

Thanks!beerchug.gif


Hard to go wrong with the Senn HD25-1-ii. Not the greatest for looks, but excellent durability and isolation with good punchy sound. There's also the B&W P5 which has the looks and isolation, a more laid back sound, good build quality but not as indestructable, and costs a bit more. Both of them should play well with your music genres.

 



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Originally Posted by Frylock View Post

i'm almost about to pull the trigger on the denon d2000 and fiio e7 combo + L3 cord . Just waiting for the price to drop . $1 off, WOW !! really amazon ? Cheapest is $260 on buy.com but i know it will drop further as summer approaches, i hope. i can wait a bit

anyway, this is after tons & tons of research and searches here. I'm only worried about the fiio choice and can spend upto $200 on a portable amp and for my type of use, thats the only type i can see using. I was thinking of ibasso but according to some reviews, it doesnt pair well with the denons. most suggestions point to e7+E9 but thats a desktop solution. Source is laptop and ipod.

Most portable amp reviews are also before FIIO hit the scene and changed the whole market i think, at least in the price/performance sector.

So, any suggestions for a portable amp in the $200 region would be very welcome. i'm in a real bind here.


The iBasso products are just fine and I've powered Denons through them no problem. FiiO is popular because their products are a bit cheaper, and the e7+e9 combo is nice as a portable and desktop solution.

 



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Originally Posted by markkr View Post

I'm considering a complete revamp of my inventory. I would like a closed full size headphone that is fun and "crisp"(for lack of a better term). I listed to rock, heavy rock most of the time... and I'm not a basshead. I can sell whatever is in my profile to raise the appropriate funds, but figure my budget for the cans only is around $750... keep in mind the amps that I currently own vs what I could buy if I sold them as well.

 

Denon D5000?

 

Thanks for the help


Well there's the obligatory Grado mention, though I notice you've already got some of those. You could always climb the ladder there, or try something like the Magnum upgrade for your 325. If looking for something closed, I usually recommend Ultrasones as a closed alternatives to Grado.

 

The D5000 is fun but I wouldn't call it crisp. Most likely too much bass for your liking as well. How about something like the Audio Technica W1000x (or W5000 if you stretch the budget). Cool and mid focused, airy texture, super comfy.

 

For something really different, you might like the Beyerdynamic DT48. There's a ridiculous midrange in there that you have to hear to believe. There are a few threads around on the DT48 worth reading up on.

 

You're good on the amp front. I see no need to upgrade anything there.

 


Edited by Armaegis - 5/16/11 at 1:10am
post #3992 of 29490

For $35, they are the best.  Much better than Sennheiser's offerings.
 

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Originally Posted by rrocketss View Post

I've seen those but...couldn't I get better for the money? They look kinda eh.
 



 



 

post #3993 of 29490

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post


Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc22 View Post

Hi Guys,

 

I'm looking for a new pair of cans and I really don't know much about them so I figured I'd come here to get some advice and some suggestions. I'm a college student right now studying for the MCAT ( if you don't know what that is, it is the exam you have to take to get into med school) and I want a pair of cans to study with. I'm going to be in the dorms, library, my house and other general study places. Right now I have a pair of in ear Bose headphones that I do enjoy but I'm looking to upgrade to something that can cancel out some more noise and lets be honest has better sound quality. Since I really don't know a thing about different types of cans, I looked at the local Best Buy and was looking at the Bose noise cancel-ling headphones or the Dr Dre Beats. I've read the reviews on both of these and have heard good and bad things but I'm not really sure if this is what I'm looking for or not. Lastly, since I am in college and image is still something, they have to look "cool" or stylish (i.e. Beats). That's the back story now for important stuff:

 

Price: $0-$300 (just want to make sure I get my money's worth on the higher priced cans with durability, sound quality etc.

Music genres: mostly rock, classic rock, metal, alternative, some rap and some classical (so pretty much a little of everything)

Type: Looking for over the ear cause I would like something that does cancel out background noise and will help me focus on studying

Sound type: I'm looking for something that is pretty even through all ranges and has bass qualities, just nothing so extreme that it sacrifices other ranges or give a distorted sound quality 

What will power the cans: It will most likely be stuff without an amp because I want them to be portable but specifically my computer and ipod mostly but maybe my phone as well (I may look into an amp later but right now I don't have one)

Location: Dorms, library, house, airport, Starbucks etc (not the gym since I will use my in ear Bose for that)

Durability: They will have to be durable cause I will be using them daily and transporting them a lot 

Looks: Lets be honest they need to look "cool" or stylish cause I am still a college student and image is still something

 

Any help or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

If you need any other information just ask. 

Thanks!beerchug.gif




Hard to go wrong with the Senn HD25-1-ii. Not the greatest for looks, but excellent durability and isolation with good punchy sound. There's also the B&W P5 which has the looks and isolation, a more laid back sound, good build quality but not as indestructable, and costs a bit more. Both of them should play well with your music genres.

Thanks for the response Armageis!

 

I've seen the B&W P5 on another website and I'm not sure the look is what I'm going for. Also would they be able to play Metal music well? I just get the feel that they are more aimed at calmer music and such.

 

I've seen the Senn HD25-1-ii mentioned before and I kinda like the idea of them even though they aren't the best looking, they seem like they are extremely durable and will last me a long time. I saw a post talking about Senn. HD25ii Adidas and I just wanted to know are these the same pair with just a different look?

 

After a little more looking around this forum I also found a couple other options to maybe get your opinion on:

Senn. HD25ii Adidas

Phiaton MS-400

Denon D1100 or D2000

ATH M50

Beyerdynamic 770 or dt880 or dt990

Bose QC15 or QC3

Beats by Dr Dre (least likely since they either break or are uncomfortable for long listening) 

 

This is just a quick little list I compiled after looking for about an hour. If you could just give me your opinion on which of these would suit my needs or if I can use all these w/o an amp, I would greatly appreciate it. Also if you think of any other options, just add them on. Lastly if you could just let me know which one of these you would buy for yourself considering my circumstances I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks for all your help guys!!


Edited by Doc22 - 5/15/11 at 9:50pm
post #3994 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Doc22 View Post

Thanks for the response Armageis!

 

I've seen the B&W P5 on another website and I'm not sure the look is what I'm going for. Also would they be able to play Metal music well? I just get the feel that they are more aimed at calmer music and such.

 

I've seen the Senn HD25-1-ii mentioned before and I kinda like the idea of them even though they aren't the best looking, they seem like they are extremely durable and will last me a long time. I saw a post talking about Senn. HD25ii Adidas and I just wanted to know are these the same pair with just a different look?

 

After a little more looking around this forum I also found a couple other options to maybe get your opinion on:

Senn. HD25ii Adidas

Phiaton MS-400

Denon D1100 or D2000

ATH M50

Beyerdynamic 770 or dt880 or dt990

Bose QC15 or QC3

Beats by Dr Dre (least likely since they either break or are uncomfortable for long listening) 

 

This is just a quick little list I compiled after looking for about an hour. If you could just give me your opinion on which of these would suit my needs or if I can use all these w/o an amp, I would greatly appreciate it. Also if you think of any other options, just add them on. Lastly if you could just let me know which one of these you would buy for yourself considering my circumstances I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks for all your help guys!!

 

I actually thought metal was quite good through the P5, though I was listening to doom metal which is a bit smoother.


HD25-1-ii Adidas version:  is the same thing except as regular version except you're paying th,e premium for colour and logo.

 

Phiaton MS400: one of my favourites, but not my first choice for rock since they're overly warm sounding and I like metal to be a bit edgier

 

Denon D1100/2000: great all-rounder, though I would say too laid back as well

 

ATH M50: good choice, mids kinda recessed, a bit big to be really portable, personally not a fan of the sound (but I'm in the minority)

 

Beyer DT770/880/990: typically hard to drive, even the lower impedance models, recessed mids on all of them, lots of bass and highs, very comfortable, 770 has excellent isolation, not portable in the slightest

 

Bose QC15: ok sound, very comfy, pricey, do you need the active noise cancellation?

 

Beats: actually very comfy, prone to breaking, bleh sound

 

post #3995 of 29490
Note- had originally posted this in its own thread but then realized it should probably be here instead since I'm seeking new headphone advIce.

Hi folks,
I'm currently considering a few pairs of headphones which, if my fellow Head-Fiers would be so kind, I would be humbled and grateful if you would rate on a scale of 1 (lowest) to 5 highest) the criteria listed below pertaining to each.

The headphones themselves are as follows-

A. Hifiman HE-5LE
B. Hifiman HE-4
C. Sony MDR-CD3000
D. Beyer DT900 600ohm
E. "Thunderpants"
F. audio-technica W1000X
G. JVC DX1000

CRITERIA
Bass
Mids
Highs
Sound Stage
Classical music
Electronic music
Jazz music
Synergy with tube amps
Ease to drive

In addition, if you have experience with some or any of these cans but not all, feel free to chime in.

I should also mention that I am fairly certain a decent tube amp (or hybrid) is what I plan to purchase, so please take that into account. At the very least it will likely be of the approximate quality of a Woo 3 or something of that sort, and I'm very open to DIY amps as well.

Thanks so much for your time if you're able to help me make my decision an easier one.
Edited by dmcs414 - 5/15/11 at 10:29pm
post #3996 of 29490

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post



 

I actually thought metal was quite good through the P5, though I was listening to doom metal which is a bit smoother.


HD25-1-ii Adidas version:  is the same thing except as regular version except you're paying th,e premium for colour and logo.

 

Phiaton MS400: one of my favourites, but not my first choice for rock since they're overly warm sounding and I like metal to be a bit edgier

 

Denon D1100/2000: great all-rounder, though I would say too laid back as well

 

ATH M50: good choice, mids kinda recessed, a bit big to be really portable, personally not a fan of the sound (but I'm in the minority)

 

Beyer DT770/880/990: typically hard to drive, even the lower impedance models, recessed mids on all of them, lots of bass and highs, very comfortable, 770 has excellent isolation, not portable in the slightest

 

Bose QC15: ok sound, very comfy, pricey, do you need the active noise cancellation?

 

Beats: actually very comfy, prone to breaking, bleh sound

 


Just to give you an idea my favorite metal band right now is Avenged Sevenfold.

 

Just from talking to you and the list I have narrowed it down a couple so if I could just get a couple more opinions from you.

 

HD25-1-ii: from the sound of it they are around the better/cheaper pairs for their price range and the only real problem is that the cups don't fold and the addidas model is priced high to carry a name and blue color

 

Phiaton MS400: Only real problem here is that they are to "smooth"? 

 

P5: How would you compare the sound quality compared to the other cans on the list? (I'm not sold on the looks of them so if I were to get them, I'd want the sound quality to be real good)

 

Denon D1100/2000: What do you mean by laid back? Do you mean that they are just to "smoth"

 

If you had to get a pair again in my circumstances and could only afford one, which one would you get? I know this is a hard question but seeing as you know your stuff just curious which you like the best.

 

Thanks again!

post #3997 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Doc22 View Post


Just to give you an idea my favorite metal band right now is Avenged Sevenfold.

 

Just from talking to you and the list I have narrowed it down a couple so if I could just get a couple more opinions from you.

 

HD25-1-ii: from the sound of it they are around the better/cheaper pairs for their price range and the only real problem is that the cups don't fold and the addidas model is priced high to carry a name and blue color

 

Phiaton MS400: Only real problem here is that they are to "smooth"? 

 

P5: How would you compare the sound quality compared to the other cans on the list? (I'm not sold on the looks of them so if I were to get them, I'd want the sound quality to be real good)

 

Denon D1100/2000: What do you mean by laid back? Do you mean that they are just to "smoth"

 

If you had to get a pair again in my circumstances and could only afford one, which one would you get? I know this is a hard question but seeing as you know your stuff just curious which you like the best.

 

Thanks again!


HD25-1-ii: great sound and durability, sound is punchy with a bit of bite to it, stronger lows and highs, the cups don't fold but they do rotate up (for DJ'ing). An alternative with similar styling/aesthetic would be the new Beyer DT1350 that people seem to be drooling over. I haven't heard it myself, but reviews are generally very positive.

 

MS400: midbass focused, very warm and smooth sound, great for vocals, but recessed highs so you lose out on guitar and cymbals

 

P5: to be honest I wasn't a huge fan of the P5 sound, but a lot of people around here like it. I find it a solid contender, just didn't have that "wow" to the sound. The isolation is fantastic though, and I would say it's even better than the HD25-1-ii

 

D2000/1100 (I've heard the D1001, not 1100): The denon sound is typically bassier though quite flat frequency response, with an excellent bass extension that goes super deep without losing power. Those harmonics and resonance can tend to overwhelm the mids and highs though, even if they aren't artificially loud. Overall sound is smoother and relaxed and not as aggressive.

 

I would be hard pressed to pick just one, though the one I held onto the longest was the Phiaton MS400, and really I just traded that away because I have an insatiable curiosity to try new sounds.

 

post #3998 of 29490

v-moda crossfade and ultrasone dj1 pro are not as good as ms400 and shure 750dj?

base on bass and sound quality for hip-hop and rap.
 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




The D5000 is a solid headphone with nice deep bass and plays well across most genres. Then spend the extra few bucks for the jmoney leather earpads. Or you could get the HE4/EF5 combo from Head-Direct, and have enough leftover for a dac.

 



 

If you're not listening at high volumes, the HD598 should be fine out of an ipod. I would recommend getting a small portable amp though. Still, I wouldn't go with the 5xx series for electronic and would rather stick to a closed headphone like the Senn HD25-1-ii or an Ultrasone.
 

 




 

Check the first post of this thread for a link to a gaming headphones review. Something to be aware of though, big bass and gaming do not mix well. Heavy bass tends to bleed into the mids and obscures details, particularly directional ones, which obviously isn't what you want for gaming.

 

Depending how competitive you are, you might consider separate headphones for gaming and music listening.



 

I say don't bother with burn-in and just enjoy your headphones from the get-go.
 

 




The Senns are solid performers, choose depending if you want open or closed (I'd prefer open).

 



 

 

 

 

I'd say one of the following:
Phiaton MS400 - great mids and midbass, flashy looks

Shure 750DJ - large, big bass and highs, good isolation

 



 

post #3999 of 29490
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Originally Posted by indy1314 View Post

v-moda crossfade and ultrasone dj1 pro are not as good as ms400 and shure 750dj?

base on bass and sound quality for hip-hop and rap.
 

 

 

I haven't heard the crossfades, so can't comment on them from experience. From what I've read though, they aren't so hot.

 

I've heard the Ortofon O-One which to my understanding is a rebadged DJ1. I wasn't too impressed with the sound on that either. There was bass, but the frequency response was very wobbly (peaks and valleys everywhere) so things felt a bit disconnected.

 

I'm not a basshead though, so take my opinions as just that.

post #4000 of 29490

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




HD25-1-ii: great sound and durability, sound is punchy with a bit of bite to it, stronger lows and highs, the cups don't fold but they do rotate up (for DJ'ing). An alternative with similar styling/aesthetic would be the new Beyer DT1350 that people seem to be drooling over. I haven't heard it myself, but reviews are generally very positive.

 

MS400: midbass focused, very warm and smooth sound, great for vocals, but recessed highs so you lose out on guitar and cymbals

 

P5: to be honest I wasn't a huge fan of the P5 sound, but a lot of people around here like it. I find it a solid contender, just didn't have that "wow" to the sound. The isolation is fantastic though, and I would say it's even better than the HD25-1-ii

 

D2000/1100 (I've heard the D1001, not 1100): The denon sound is typically bassier though quite flat frequency response, with an excellent bass extension that goes super deep without losing power. Those harmonics and resonance can tend to overwhelm the mids and highs though, even if they aren't artificially loud. Overall sound is smoother and relaxed and not as aggressive.

 

I would be hard pressed to pick just one, though the one I held onto the longest was the Phiaton MS400, and really I just traded that away because I have an insatiable curiosity to try new sounds.

 


After reading this I think I've narrowed it down to either the HD25-1-ii, MS400 or the DT1350 for a beginning pair of cans (hopefully it doesn't get me too addicted to better sound quality or I won't have any money left for food).

 

Just want to make sure I've got the best idea for all these and I should soon be out of your hair so another newbie can annoy you for a while.

 

HD25-1-ii: Tried and true, it is a really good pair of beginning cans. For it's price range it is extremely durable and has great sound in the lows and highs. Not as much focused on mids or bass. Has great isolation. Becomes more aesthetically pleasing when you pay the extra money for the "blue" adidas stripes.

 

MS400: Is not as edgy as the HD25's but is more focused on midbass and less highs. Is a pretty tested pair of cans with a good reputation for a more "bassy" smooth sound. Has decent isolation.

 

DT1350: Not as much is known about these since they are more recently released but seem to be an improvement on their predecessor which had some major problems and were a disappointment. Do you know if they fixed the problems with them or how they compare with the HD25's since they are sooo similar? Just from the reviews it seems it has pretty good isolation and good sound quality. 

 

I hate to do it to you again but from these three which would you recommend for a first "real" pair of cans. Sorry if you feel like your deadhorse.gif just want to see where you stand on these three.

 

Thanks again! 

post #4001 of 29490

I'm looking to get one good headphone and stick to it for good. I basically change once every few months a while back on those $20-$40 brandless when I'm still into hardcore late-night gaming. I ever tried a $700++ sennheiser headphone on a few rock genre songs over at my friend house and I can't seem to hear the differences between that pricing vs a $40. No side by side comparison at the same time though.

 

This new headphone I'm planning to get is for listening to a wide range of music genre, but lesser on rock and heavy metal. I watch a lot of drama and movie shows during my free time instead of gaming nowadays. I like to get into the world of audiophiles with the help of this new gear as well. I suppose there's no one specific headphone that excel for general usage so I'm not really sure on what I want on the sound preferably.

 

I say the look or design of the headphone is very important to me. I'm willing to pay $50-$100 more for headphone that appeal to me with the same specifications. I tend to sweat very easily so comfort level is another point I'm looking out for.

 

Since I'm looking to get into the world of an audiophile, expansion like getting an amp and sound card in the future to bring the headphone to a whole new level can be taken into consideration.

 

I don't want to restrict myself to a budget but that does not mean I had a deep pocket. I'll save up or club less for it since I'm going to keep this headphone for at least a few years. Please recommend me one that you think will not be underutilized in my care. Thank you.

post #4002 of 29490

Would it be worth it to spend more on a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 440 headphones over a pair of ATH-AD700 or Senn HD555 for EMB and Industrial music? Would the DT 440 have noticeably better bass characteristics? Which of those three would anyone recommend?

post #4003 of 29490

Can the Indeed G2 Hybrid Valve amp power a DT990 (600ohms) or a HD650?

 

If not, what amps do you guys recommend?


Edited by Kyaw - 5/16/11 at 8:51am
post #4004 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Doc22 View Post


After reading this I think I've narrowed it down to either the HD25-1-ii, MS400 or the DT1350 for a beginning pair of cans (hopefully it doesn't get me too addicted to better sound quality or I won't have any money left for food).

 

Just want to make sure I've got the best idea for all these and I should soon be out of your hair so another newbie can annoy you for a while.

 

HD25-1-ii: Tried and true, it is a really good pair of beginning cans. For it's price range it is extremely durable and has great sound in the lows and highs. Not as much focused on mids or bass. Has great isolation. Becomes more aesthetically pleasing when you pay the extra money for the "blue" adidas stripes.

 

MS400: Is not as edgy as the HD25's but is more focused on midbass and less highs. Is a pretty tested pair of cans with a good reputation for a more "bassy" smooth sound. Has decent isolation.

 

DT1350: Not as much is known about these since they are more recently released but seem to be an improvement on their predecessor which had some major problems and were a disappointment. Do you know if they fixed the problems with them or how they compare with the HD25's since they are sooo similar? Just from the reviews it seems it has pretty good isolation and good sound quality. 

 

I hate to do it to you again but from these three which would you recommend for a first "real" pair of cans. Sorry if you feel like your deadhorse.gif just want to see where you stand on these three.

 

Thanks again! 



That's a really tough choice for me. I would probably take the DT1350 just because I've heard the other two and I love to try out new gear. In your case, you really can't go wrong with them. Roll the dice (literally) and go!

 

 



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Originally Posted by triegh View Post

I'm looking to get one good headphone and stick to it for good. I basically change once every few months a while back on those $20-$40 brandless when I'm still into hardcore late-night gaming. I ever tried a $700++ sennheiser headphone on a few rock genre songs over at my friend house and I can't seem to hear the differences between that pricing vs a $40. No side by side comparison at the same time though.

 

This new headphone I'm planning to get is for listening to a wide range of music genre, but lesser on rock and heavy metal. I watch a lot of drama and movie shows during my free time instead of gaming nowadays. I like to get into the world of audiophiles with the help of this new gear as well. I suppose there's no one specific headphone that excel for general usage so I'm not really sure on what I want on the sound preferably.

 

I say the look or design of the headphone is very important to me. I'm willing to pay $50-$100 more for headphone that appeal to me with the same specifications. I tend to sweat very easily so comfort level is another point I'm looking out for.

 

Since I'm looking to get into the world of an audiophile, expansion like getting an amp and sound card in the future to bring the headphone to a whole new level can be taken into consideration.

 

I don't want to restrict myself to a budget but that does not mean I had a deep pocket. I'll save up or club less for it since I'm going to keep this headphone for at least a few years. Please recommend me one that you think will not be underutilized in my care. Thank you.


The Senn H5xx series is a good starting point. The 595 was on sale through Amazon recently. The newer 558/598 have been getting good reviews, but cost more than the 555/595. These cans are relatively easy to drive, and will improve as you give them more power. One step up would be the 600/650, but you're into mandatory amping territory there. However, a home receiver works just as well rather than buying an expensive headphone amp. If you can find them, a used 580 is basically the same as a 600 and significantly cheaper.

 

Other good cans to consider: Denon D2000, Beyer DT770/880/990, Shure 840/940.

 

post #4005 of 29490
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Originally Posted by RebelExtrm02 View Post

Would it be worth it to spend more on a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 440 headphones over a pair of ATH-AD700 or Senn HD555 for EMB and Industrial music? Would the DT 440 have noticeably better bass characteristics? Which of those three would anyone recommend?



In general, closed headphones will give you better bass than open ones. The AD700 and HD555 are not going to satisfy you in the bass if you're looking for heavy thump.

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