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post #3421 of 29490
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Originally Posted by hfguy View Post

Hello. Great forum! Exactly what I was looking for. I was wondering if anyone can help me. I was looking to get some full size cans.

 

Considerations:

- AIAIAI TMA-1's

- D1100's

- Senn HD25's

- Senn HD595

- ATH-M50's

- AKG K518's (For portability)

 

All within my price range. $100-200.

 

My Music:

- Linkin Park

- Blue October

- Coldplay

- Red

- Jamey Johnson

- Zac Brown Band

- Frank Sinatra/Dean Martin

- Blues

 

I'm not sure if an amp would need to be considered.

 

Thank you for any help you can provide. I'm new to this, but find myself falling deeper into audiophilia.


The TMA-1, and Senn 25s are both on ear headphones. They're good portable options, of which I'd suggest the 25s for the music you enjoy.

I'd honestly suggest the D1100. I love the Denon sound sig, personally. Not bad little all rounders.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfguy View Post

Hello. Great forum! Exactly what I was looking for. I was wondering if anyone can help me. I was looking to get some full size cans.

 

Considerations:

- AIAIAI TMA-1's

- D1100's

- Senn HD25's

- Senn HD595

- ATH-M50's

- AKG K518's (For portability)

 

All within my price range. $100-200.

 

My Music:

- Linkin Park

- Blue October

- Coldplay

- Red

- Jamey Johnson

- Zac Brown Band

- Frank Sinatra/Dean Martin

- Blues

 

I'm not sure if an amp would need to be considered.

 

Thank you for any help you can provide. I'm new to this, but find myself falling deeper into audiophilia.




The TMA-1, and Senn 25s are both on ear headphones. They're good portable options, of which I'd suggest the 25s for the music you enjoy.

I'd honestly suggest the D1100. I love the Denon sound sig, personally. Not bad little all rounders.


 

Thanks for the quick response. My interest here is more towards sitting down on the couch, putting the cans on, and getting lost. No outside sounds at all. That's probably why I favor the circumaural design of the Denon's and Senn's. That and my ears are pretty sensitive and get sore with little on-ear usage. Although I've heard the TMA-1's are pretty darn comfortable for on-ears. I'm not too concerned with portability at the moment, for I primarily use IEMs/Buds. Any other suggestions are welcomed. Particularly with which set for the music I listen to.


Edited by hfguy - 4/25/11 at 11:39am
post #3423 of 29490
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Originally Posted by joelpearce View Post

This isn't a hugely popular recommendation, but I really like my M-Audio Delta soundcard, with line out to an amp.  I find I'm able to get an extremely good, clean signal, as one would expect from a music production soundcard, and they are quite cheap.  In terms of an amp, FWIR the AKGs would probably like a hybrid tube amp, but if minute details are your primary goal, a solid state amp might suit you better.  I'll reserve judgment on that for people who own the K70X and listen to more classical than I do.  You also might want to add the Beyerdynamic DT880 to your headphone research list, if you want something that's detailed but will also dip down to the low bass when you need it to.

 

My main computer setup is M-Audio Delta 24/96->Musical Paradise MP-301, and it does make quite a nice combination.  The Mark II just came out, is in your price range, and looks to be a nice upgrade.
 



 


Thanks for your thoughts.  I have never heard a hybrid tube amp, but I LOVE my Carver M500 solid state (off topic here).  The Carver will do from 1-100kHz at 380w continuous before clipping, tested with a scope... mind you, at 100,000Hz the drivers started to smoke a bit, and we tripped a 15amp breaker.  It's suppose to be rated for 500w, but I can assure you, this amp will drive more than 800 watts per channel from 20 - 20k continuous.

 

This is the kind of performance I look for in my hardware.  I really don't know that much about modern brands, and buy mostly based on technical information and sound (which is most important).  If I could find a solid state headphone amp that would give me the full range of vinyl (say 5Hz - 60k+), without cutting out at 20k, that would be great.  Now I know there are people that say you can't hear things above 20khz, but as an orchestral musician, I know for a fact that overtones are excited from a number of different instruments, specifically cymbals.  I have never figured out why they cut the frequencies off at 20khz.  This is one of the reasons I try to only lissen to WAV files, if I lissen to digital at all, and why I prefer analogue (when I can get a full frequency recording).  I also understand that the physical limitations of headphone drivers (except maybe electrostatic) limit the frequency ranges, but 5Hz - 35kHz (such as the Beyer DT880's) I think would do fine! 

 

I've never owned a headphone that was listed lower than 12Hz, but my HD428 actually reproduce (mostly) the 8.2Hz, 64-foot C-natural of the Worcester Cathedral pipe organ.  FANTASTIC!  I'll take a look at the Beyerdynamics!  I can not wait to hear what a good headphone set will do for low, LOUD sustained bass at these frequencies.

 

I tend to ramble, sorry.

 

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I am also in the market for a set of new headphones.  I was thinking of getting the Beyerdynamics DT 990 with and e9 amp hooked up to the titanium hd sound card.  My budget is around 700 dollars.  I will be using these on my computer and be using them for gaming, movies, and music.  I was also looking at the Denon 2000, but am still going through all the forums to see what people are recommending.  

 

I will admit I do like bass, and would not want a headphone that is to weak in that area especially for gaming.  I guess for headphones my budget is about 300-400 and maybe a little higher that 500 if I do not need an amp.  Can anyone give me some suggestions on other headphones that would have good bass and will be comfortable to wear for long periods of time? 

 

 

 

 

 


 

post #3425 of 29490
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Greetings!

 

This is my first post.  After discovering this site about two weeks ago, I have read some wonderful information in these pages! I'm very glad I found this s

I currently own an old set of Sony monitor series (about 15 years old), and replaced them with a nice set of Sennheiser HD428. I like the HD428's, but I feel I could have something better. I recently built a Chu Moy style amp and could not believe how noisy my equipment was! The amp, even tho cheap, allowed me to bypass all of the source chips built in to the computer and external USB soundcard for a line out.

 

Even going from USB to line out, most of the sources on my computer are very noisy. The Akai reel-to-reel that I use almost every day, and the B&O4002 turntable sound super fantastic in my HD428's. I need better equipment. The first two things I would like your input on is a decent desktop headphone amp, and the AKG K701. After reading many reviews, I normally would just decide and buy, but I found this thread.

 

The majority of the music I lissen to is "classical". Since I am a conductor and composer, I need to hear all the little middle bits that get covered up in heavy compressed recordings. I try to find the best recordings possible, and would like some decent equipment to go along with it. The recordings I lissen to can destroy lesser speakers.

 

There is a particular recording of the Firebird Suite that has a peak 12Hz (maybe lower) punch that will clip at all but the lowest values.  Full orchestral sections can almost always saturate an amp and clip, resulting in much cursing from me. I don't want to have to turn down the volume.  The electronic music I lissen to I don't mind to turn down, as I mainly lissen to it just to pass time, or when I find something new. I don't consider that critical lissening.

 

Anyhow, I've rambled enough. As for budget concerns, I think the $300 spent for the AKG's is money well spent, as for a decent amp, if a very good tube version (preferable) or even solid state were to be had for about the same money that would do the job, I would be happy.

 

Thanks in advance for any information you can give me.

 


While I can't make any recommendations on amping for the K701, I will suggest that you look into getting an external DAC (digital to analog converter). How a DAC works is you plug it into your computer (generally through USB, optical, firewire, or coax depending on the DAC you get) and acts as a sound card, bypassing your computer's built in one. This will greatly reduce the noise you experience when listening through your computer. You can get DAC/amp combos if thats what you're looking for, or you can get them separately. Either way, I strongly recommend looking into getting one!
post #3426 of 29490
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Thanks for your thoughts.  I have never heard a hybrid tube amp, but I LOVE my Carver M500 solid state (off topic here).  The Carver will do from 1-100kHz at 380w continuous before clipping, tested with a scope... mind you, at 100,000Hz the drivers started to smoke a bit, and we tripped a 15amp breaker.  It's suppose to be rated for 500w, but I can assure you, this amp will drive more than 800 watts per channel from 20 - 20k continuous.

 

This is the kind of performance I look for in my hardware.  I really don't know that much about modern brands, and buy mostly based on technical information and sound (which is most important).  If I could find a solid state headphone amp that would give me the full range of vinyl (say 5Hz - 60k+), without cutting out at 20k, that would be great.  Now I know there are people that say you can't hear things above 20khz, but as an orchestral musician, I know for a fact that overtones are excited from a number of different instruments, specifically cymbals.  I have never figured out why they cut the frequencies off at 20khz.  This is one of the reasons I try to only lissen to WAV files, if I lissen to digital at all, and why I prefer analogue (when I can get a full frequency recording).  I also understand that the physical limitations of headphone drivers (except maybe electrostatic) limit the frequency ranges, but 5Hz - 35kHz (such as the Beyer DT880's) I think would do fine! 

 

I've never owned a headphone that was listed lower than 12Hz, but my HD428 actually reproduce (mostly) the 8.2Hz, 64-foot C-natural of the Worcester Cathedral pipe organ.  FANTASTIC!  I'll take a look at the Beyerdynamics!  I can not wait to hear what a good headphone set will do for low, LOUD sustained bass at these frequencies.

 

I tend to ramble, sorry.

 


A lot of the amps people recommend around here are based more or less on euphonics and some strange idea of "synergy" where the combination of faults in two pieces of equipment cancel each other out. I haven't heard this myself, but the Schiit Lyr seems to be designed along the same lines as your Carver. Of note is the silly amount of power it can put out as well as the frequency response: 2Hz-200KHz, -3dB. Its pretty well reviewed so far and assuming you like it it should be able to power any non-electrostatic you throw at it for years to come.
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A lot of the amps people recommend around here are based more or less on euphonics and some strange idea of "synergy" where the combination of faults in two pieces of equipment cancel each other out. I haven't heard this myself, but the Schiit Lyr seems to be designed along the same lines as your Carver. Of note is the silly amount of power it can put out as well as the frequency response: 2Hz-200KHz, -3dB. Its pretty well reviewed so far and assuming you like it it should be able to power any non-electrostatic you throw at it for years to come.

 


Seriously?  Holy expletive Batman! And $449?  I'm sold.  And It will drive 600 ohms, so if I do get the Beyerdynamic's I'll spring for those.  I didn't know anyone was making this kind of product! 

I may order one today.  This has excited me greatly!  Back-order or not... That's the amp for me. 

 

THANK YOU!

 

post #3428 of 29490
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Seriously?  Holy expletive Batman! And $449?  I'm sold.  And It will drive 600 ohms, so if I do get the Beyerdynamic's I'll spring for those.  I didn't know anyone was making this kind of product! 

I may order one today.  This has excited me greatly!  Back-order or not... That's the amp for me. 

 

THANK YOU!

 


I got mine in today. It's brilliant (especially for the price). It looks fabulous and just has SO MUCH POWER. I've been posting my impressions in the D7000 thread as I go along. I'm really enjoying it. It'll blow 600 Ohm Beyers up if you max it out. lol

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post #3429 of 29490
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Seriously?  Holy expletive Batman! And $449?  I'm sold.  And It will drive 600 ohms, so if I do get the Beyerdynamic's I'll spring for those.  I didn't know anyone was making this kind of product! 

I may order one today.  This has excited me greatly!  Back-order or not... That's the amp for me. 

 

THANK YOU!

 


Like I said before, I've never heard it. Its just something I was looking into and considering for myself. You may want to read some impressions from people who actually own one. All I can say is that if it lives up to the posted specs it should be a giant killer.

I'd also keep it away from kids. If somebody gropes the volume dial and cranks it its perfectly capable of destroying 99% of the headphones on the market.
Edited by maverickronin - 4/25/11 at 1:56pm
post #3430 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post




 

The Solos are very meh, with a lower-mid that muddies up the rest of the spectrum. The 428 is much more balanced. The 428 is full sized though, and does not collapse in any way. Are you looking for something portable?

 

Of the other choices, I would say the 440 is your best choice. I've heard either the M30 or M35 I don't remember, but I feel the 440 is the nicest. A note though: these are all relatively neutral response headphones. If you're looking for bass, you probably won't be happy with these.


 


I only have experience with the closed Ultrasones. I liked the Pro 650 model (the 550 was a little lean in the bass).

 

I've been compiling a list of Canadian retailers here:

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/548624/listing-canadian-companies-retailers

In general the prices are higher than US, but at least you don't have ridiculous shipping and customs fees.


Which of the two would you say is a better headphone, the HD 428's or the 440's? Neutral tones are fine for me, I'm looking for an overall solid pair that does everything well. The lack of folding on the Senns doesn't really bother me, I don't usually fold mine anyways. Thanks for that Canadian retail list as well, even though it was for someone else. I'm Canadian as well, so that definitely helps me figure out where I can find these things.

 

post #3431 of 29490
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Originally Posted by MetaLicca View Post




Which of the two would you say is a better headphone, the HD 428's or the 440's? Neutral tones are fine for me, I'm looking for an overall solid pair that does everything well. The lack of folding on the Senns doesn't really bother me, I don't usually fold mine anyways. Thanks for that Canadian retail list as well, even though it was for someone else. I'm Canadian as well, so that definitely helps me figure out where I can find these things.

 


I would pick the 440 over the 428. The Shures feel more comfortable and have a bit better detail to them.

 

post #3432 of 29490
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I would pick the 440 over the 428. The Shures feel more comfortable and have a bit better detail to them.

 

 

Alright sweet, thanks a lot.
 

 

post #3433 of 29490
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Originally Posted by mongoosenco View Post

I am also in the market for a set of new headphones.  I was thinking of getting the Beyerdynamics DT 990 with and e9 amp hooked up to the titanium hd sound card.  My budget is around 700 dollars.  I will be using these on my computer and be using them for gaming, movies, and music.  I was also looking at the Denon 2000, but am still going through all the forums to see what people are recommending.  

 

I will admit I do like bass, and would not want a headphone that is to weak in that area especially for gaming.  I guess for headphones my budget is about 300-400 and maybe a little higher that 500 if I do not need an amp.  Can anyone give me some suggestions on other headphones that would have good bass and will be comfortable to wear for long periods of time? 

 

 

The DT990/e9 combo should be plenty. That said, for competitive gaming strong bass is actually detrimental because it obscures positional details.

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Armaegis thanks for the reply.  I am not into competitive gaming, just gaming to have fun.  I also like to be able to feel the explosions when I am playing it just makes the game so much better in my opinion.  It seems I may end up going with the DT990/e9, but someone mentioned the ultrasonic pro 900 as well, but from what I can tell the DT990 will be more comfortable over long periods of time and not to mention the pro 900s are a bit more expensive than the DT990.  

 

I never thought choosing a pair of quality headphones would be so difficult.  Since this will be my first real pair.  I used to use a 5.1 Medusa headset for gaming, but learned later they weren't that great.  I am currently using the Corsair usb headset and its seems to be lacking in many areas as well.  

 

So I hope by spending a little bit more money I will get a much better audio experience all around.  Again thanks for replying.

post #3435 of 29490
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The Phiaton MS 400 might be just the thing for you, if you can find them in your price range.  They aren't quite fully over-ear, but they are quite comfortable.  The Sennheiser PX-100 would also be a really nice counterpoint for Grados.

 


MS 400s seem to be sitting around $170 without getting lucky and finding a nice sale on one, a little out of reach right now. PX100 was a consideration, but I am wondering what kind of isolation that they would provide being open and all.

Isolation is one of my bigger concerns at the moment. It's noisy here and Grado is terrible for isolation (overpowering the weak droning background is one thing, annoying random noise is another).
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