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Originally Posted by the new kid 36 View Post

Hello, I am new to the world of hi-fi audio and I am looking for some feed back on some headphones I am looking to buy. The headphones are Grado Labs sr 325 is, Akg k 271 mk II, Akg k 702, B&W p5, and the Sennheiser hd 600. First off let me say that I will not have an amp for at least two to three months but when I do get an amp it will either be a Schiit Lyr or the Valhalla. But for the time being the headphones will be powered by my home receiver, computer, or iPod. What I am looking for from these headphones are sound quality, comfortability, and fit and finish. I will be using them a lot so i don't want something so fragile that when I put them down wrong they will break. I listen to all types of music ranging from Sweatshop Union to Pink Floyd, so the bass should have a strong presence but not over power the mids or the highs. Also I would like my mids lush and full and my highs silky smooth. But as of this moment I have the strong urge to buy the Grados because of their reputation but I just wanted to hear other more experienced audiophiles.



I'd consider HD600 or a maybe different Grado (RS-1, HF-1, HF-2) that has stronger bass & smoother treble.  Comparing the first two to SR225, I instantly preferred them and felt they went a long way toward remedying the flaws in Grado signature.  Those AKGs will not work well with music that has any bass foundation.

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Trying to cover some of the ones that may have been missed in the last two pages...

 

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Originally Posted by fobbywillie View Post

long time lurker first time poster.

 

looking for a full size headphone to use with my Roland electric drums,

I'm looking for something, that first of all have to have great sound stage, secondly, good but more importantly precise bass, and lastly versatile sound range

 

i have narrowed it down to the Grado Alessandro ms1, ATH-M50, or the ultrasone 580s, but really hate making a decision like this without being able to actually listen to the real things(also for ppl who owns any of these, are there and comfort, heat/sweat problems to watch for?).

 

questions:

1.Im not really sure on the open back thing, as i might also use what ever i end up getting for leisure use outside as well as at home, so can open backs be used say on a noisy street, or in a quiet office?

2.im leaning towards the 580s, but as i want to use the headphone for more then drum playing, just wandering are the ultrasone 580s just know for their bass or what? how is its mid to high range and how does the m50 compare in that sense? im looking for something versatile as i listen a wide range of music, from rock to rap to classical.

 

price is not really an issue, but id prefer not go over the low ranged ones unless they just cant get the same soundstage as well as sq as say the mid-high ranged one, then i might have to look into hd650, dt990, d2000...etc

 

also one more curious question, my drum module says it has a output of 1k ohms, so is that technically enough to power the high impendence headphones, or do the amps people use have other properties/features thats needed, sorry if this is a stupid questions, havent really read too much on amps.

 

1) You will want a closed headphone to block outside noise (otherwise you have to crank it to even hear your music, and then you're just fighting noise with louder noise which is going to damage your hearing). You also don't want to disturb people around you in quiet environments. Open headphones in general have nicer soundstage, but they really want a nice quiet personal environment in order to listen to them.
 

2) The 580 is ok but needs a bit of amping to sound its best, is an open headphone and not super strong in the bass. I haven't heard the Ultrasone 580 so can't comment on that. The Ultrasone pro650 has a nice kick to the bass and I consider it a fairly versatile can. The Pro900 is reportedly great for bass, though I've never tried that one. The M50 is a good all-rounder, but it has recessed mids and really isn't good for classical. The DT770 is another bass heavy can with strong highs and overall improves on the strengths of the M50 but has the same weaknesses sonically. I would say the 880 or 990 are more versatile in that family. I would say the D2000 is an excellend all-rounded with a good representation across the spectrum and plays well with most genres. Of course, it also happens to be the most expensive one on the list.

 

3) Your drum amp has an output of 1k ohm? Are you sure you're reading the right spec? That really doesn't make any sense and no gear I can think of has an output impedance that high.

 

 

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Originally Posted by fobbywillie View Post

right.. make sense now, why it is hard to find the combination of the two. ok orthos meaning orthodynamic headphones right, whats stats?

 

stats = electrostats

There aren't too many options there except for STAX, and none of them are cheap.


Orthos aren't easy to come by these days either. The Fostex T50RP is the only "cheap" commercially available one, though it's an extremely popular can for modding (see the huge orthodynamic thread). They're actually quite nice once you give them enough power though. For the vintage stuff, the popular ones are made by Yamaha. For a brief period I had a Yamaha YH-1 rehoused into a Sennheiser HD600 shell which was excellent. I regret selling it, though I didn't have an amp to really drive it properly, plus orthos are a bit too "intense" for my ear as I'm quite sensitive to sound pressure.

 

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Originally Posted by Doorbell View Post

Yeah i'm thinking about either the 225i or 325i's. I'm not sure though. I'm not really into open headphones because I live around loud people.

 

I would recommend an Ultrasone then. The Pro650 is a solid can that fits right in your price range. I think it was succeeded by the more expensive 750, but the 650 should still be available.
 

 


 

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Originally Posted by Maelbox View Post

Hey there! Buying my first set of headphones and hopefully they'll last a while.

 

HD448
HD228
Aviators
HD215
HD515
HD438
HD218

 

These are the headphones I can choose from. I'm looking for a good bass, I listen to them in a quiet environment, and the genres are pretty broad: rap/hip-hop/techno/dance/classical/rock, plus gaming. 

 

I'm leaning towards the 448's. I love the look of the Aviators, although apparently the bass isn't too good on them and people are bashing their sound quality. So can anyone with experience with some of these make a recommendation please?

 

Of the ones listed, I've owned/heard the 215/228/438/448.


The 448 is a little lean in the bass department. I much preferred the 438 for the warmer and bassier tone, though the 448 does win out *slightly* in the upper range detailing.

 


 

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Originally Posted by aceofspades104 View Post

I made a thread earlier, but realized this might be a better place to post. I have been using an my dads old pair of QC3s that work on and off and use cheap skull candy earbuds when i dont need to reattach the wire. I would like a new pair of cans since the sound quality of my QC3s has diminished greatly.  I do need to take a trip to guitar center, but it is a one hour bike ride and my parents have other priorities than driving me around places (I have yet to get my drivers license). I am looking in the $600 range (650 wont be a problem).

The models I have been looking at are:

Pioneer HDJ-2000 and SE-DIR800C

Sennheiser HD650 (anyone know a sub 1000 deal on the HD800s :D)

Grado RS1i

AKG K701

 

I listen to almost any kind of music.  I like Dub Step, Alt Rock, Classical, Jazz, and a bit of Country.

 

Thanks in advance


While not absolutely necessary, the HD650 and K701 really like to have an amp behind them. They are hard to drive to loud levels and sound a bit flabby without sufficient control/power behind them. That said, they're still ok to pick up and work just fine pushing them from a home receiver, and you can invest in an amp later on.

 

First off, do you want open or closed? Secondly, do you want/need portablity? Do they need to be rugged?

 

I'm one of the few people here who has the HDJ-2000 and I like it, but it doesn't have a great soundstage compared to all the others on your list. The sound is U-shaped like typical DJ cans but actually very flat in comparison to others. Comfort and isolation are excellent.

 

HD650 is a solid performer across all genres.

 

K701 has a lot of lovers and haters. Generally considered excellent for classical, not so much for others. Great mids, weak bass.

 

RS1i as a Grado is predominantly known for rock. I haven't heard this specific model but plenty others in the Grado family. Punchy sound, solid mids and mid highs, easy to drive, not that comfortable (but this is highly dependent on each person)

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post


some budget options:

Electric Avenue pa2v2, HotAudio Thunderbolt, FiiO e7, iBasso T3/T4, cmoy by JDS/BSG/FredFred

 

Might as well use the same amp for home as portable. It gets kind of silly to be spending so much money on two separate amps for a single headphone.

 



Thanks! Although I meant a portable one for the M50 (which is likely going to be the E7 or E11 once I see the price of it) and a desktop one for the 558. Although if using the same for both seems to work I'll go with that.

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Both are relatively easy to drive. No need to go spending oodles of money when you don't have to. The same amp can be used for both headphones and for portable and home use.

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Finally picked up Sennheiser 201s for 27 from best buy. Had gone in for the 202 but they had just this lying in some corner.

 

First impression: It's not as comfy as I'd expected, fits well but gets a lil irritating after 30 mins or so, specially the ear warming issue. Sounds good overall but not as much bass as I wanted neither as loud...sounded quite soft in a slightly noisy environment.

 

I know I got what I paid for and still consider it good value for money but like I'd mentioned earlier I didn't wanna buy anything without trying it first.

I had been researching headphones for a week but now it seems like I'd much rather go with IEMs. I will be using em mostly at home, in a quiet environment so good sound quality (specially bass) and comfort are my top priority.

 

Though satisfied with the sennheisers have started my research on IEMs and have found one that I think i'll like. The Hippo series EB/VB/Pearl.

Again opinions/responses appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by neo316 View Post

Finally picked up Sennheiser 201s for 27 from best buy. Had gone in for the 202 but they had just this lying in some corner.

 

First impression: It's not as comfy as I'd expected, fits well but gets a lil irritating after 30 mins or so, specially the ear warming issue. Sounds good overall but not as much bass as I wanted neither as loud...sounded quite soft in a slightly noisy environment.

 

I know I got what I paid for and still consider it good value for money but like I'd mentioned earlier I didn't wanna buy anything without trying it first.

I had been researching headphones for a week but now it seems like I'd much rather go with IEMs. I will be using em mostly at home, in a quiet environment so good sound quality (specially bass) and comfort are my top priority.

 

Though satisfied with the sennheisers have started my research on IEMs and have found one that I think i'll like. The Hippo series EB/VB/Pearl.

Again opinions/responses appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 


Sennheiser 201 is NOT for bass. 201 and 202 are completely different.

Headroom Frequency Response Graph:
500

Noooo~ bass.

You're going to pay at least $50 for a decent IEM. If you don't buy it online, you're looking at $80+. That's if you can find it in a store redface.gif
post #3322 of 29490

BY GOD THATS A MESSED FR CURVE!!!!

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Are there any differences between the HFI 580s and the DJ1's sound?
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Hi all, I'm looking at the Piaton MS 400 and the Audio Technica ATH-M50, I'd like to know which performs better unamped and secondarily how each might perform powered by an Icon Mobile. I appreciate the input

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I've never heard the MS 400 but the M50 is in my opinion goes very well unamped and benefits from many mods.


 

 

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Hi guys, this is my first post, I have been reading alot from this forum and have decided to purchase Shure SRH750DJ on ebay. 

 

My main purpose for the headphone is to use it at the band rehearsal, where we use Jamhub to avoid upsetting the neighbours, I am using Sennheiser HD202 atm and would like to upgrade. 

 

The music we play range from Rock to metal to a few pop songs, we're a 3 piece band with guitar, bass and drum. I play guitar and sing lead vocal as well, from the information I've gathers 750 seems to be a nice fit for my need, if any of you are using 750 similar to my situation please let me know your experience with these, suggestions welcome if you think other model suit my situation better. 

 

So I have been looking on Ebay for a best possible deal and found this (click here) which seems like a great deal but the problem is the price ($89 + $35 shipping to NZ) seems too good to be true? Even the second hand 750 cost more that this brand new set, am I looking at a fake replica? Where do you guys buy your headphone from? I live in NZ and 750 cost about $260USD here so I need some guidance from you guys ;) 

 

ps. please excuse my broken English. 

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Yeah I realize that, it's just that I wanted to start somewhere. Have been using IEMs all my life so wanted to get an idea of how headphones feel and sound.

Might just return these and pick up another pair.

 

Any idea about the availability for the Hippos? checked jaben and http://www.traudio.org/Hippo.html so far...
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo316 View Post

Finally picked up Sennheiser 201s for 27 from best buy. Had gone in for the 202 but they had just this lying in some corner.

 

First impression: It's not as comfy as I'd expected, fits well but gets a lil irritating after 30 mins or so, specially the ear warming issue. Sounds good overall but not as much bass as I wanted neither as loud...sounded quite soft in a slightly noisy environment.

 

I know I got what I paid for and still consider it good value for money but like I'd mentioned earlier I didn't wanna buy anything without trying it first.

I had been researching headphones for a week but now it seems like I'd much rather go with IEMs. I will be using em mostly at home, in a quiet environment so good sound quality (specially bass) and comfort are my top priority.

 

Though satisfied with the sennheisers have started my research on IEMs and have found one that I think i'll like. The Hippo series EB/VB/Pearl.

Again opinions/responses appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 




Sennheiser 201 is NOT for bass. 201 and 202 are completely different.

Headroom Frequency Response Graph:
500

Noooo~ bass.

You're going to pay at least $50 for a decent IEM. If you don't buy it online, you're looking at $80+. That's if you can find it in a store redface.gif


 

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That's cheap, but not ridiculously cheap.  They drop down to 129 in Canada sometimes.

 

I'm not aware of any fake Shures--a google search doesn't turn up any real responses.  The replacement line is coming out soon, so they might be trying to push through the stock.

 

FWIR, they should be a great choice for that purpose, as well.

post #3329 of 29490
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Originally Posted by blkicy View Post

 

Hi guys, this is my first post, I have been reading alot from this forum and have decided to purchase Shure SRH750DJ on ebay. 

 

My main purpose for the headphone is to use it at the band rehearsal, where we use Jamhub to avoid upsetting the neighbours, I am using Sennheiser HD202 atm and would like to upgrade. 

 

The music we play range from Rock to metal to a few pop songs, we're a 3 piece band with guitar, bass and drum. I play guitar and sing lead vocal as well, from the information I've gathers 750 seems to be a nice fit for my need, if any of you are using 750 similar to my situation please let me know your experience with these, suggestions welcome if you think other model suit my situation better. 

 

So I have been looking on Ebay for a best possible deal and found this (click here) which seems like a great deal but the problem is the price ($89 + $35 shipping to NZ) seems too good to be true? Even the second hand 750 cost more that this brand new set, am I looking at a fake replica? Where do you guys buy your headphone from? I live in NZ and 750 cost about $260USD here so I need some guidance from you guys ;) 

 

ps. please excuse my broken English. 


Hi - fellow kiwi

 

The shipping to NZ sounds about right.  If you want to try some straight up e-tailers before you pull the trigger - try emailing these guys, and ask for their best pricing:

 

J&R - http://www.jr.com/

B&H - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

Headroom - http://www.headphone.com/

RMC Audio - http://www.rmcaudiodirect.com/

 

Not sure if they all would ship to NZ or not (you'll need to check) - because I travel to the US, I was able to deliver to US address and pick up.  I bought my SRH840's through RMC at $129 USD.  They retail NZ at NZD $429!  Going through a proper e-tailer, at least you know they are genuine.

 

Hope this helps.

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I'm new to this Hi-Fi thing so... what exactly is a headphone amp? i have never heard of these before.


 

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