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Hello, I am new to the world of hi-fi audio and I am looking for some feed back on some headphones I am looking to buy. The headphones are Grado Labs sr 325 is, Akg k 271 mk II, Akg k 702, B&W p5, and the Sennheiser hd 600. First off let me say that I will not have an amp for at least two to three months but when I do get an amp it will either be a Schiit Lyr or the Valhalla. But for the time being the headphones will be powered by my home receiver, computer, or iPod. What I am looking for from these headphones are sound quality, comfortability, and fit and finish. I will be using them a lot so i don't want something so fragile that when I put them down wrong they will break. I listen to all types of music ranging from Sweatshop Union to Pink Floyd, so the bass should have a strong presence but not over power the mids or the highs. Also I would like my mids lush and full and my highs silky smooth. But as of this moment I have the strong urge to buy the Grados because of their reputation but I just wanted to hear other more experienced audiophiles.

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Originally Posted by the new kid 36 View Post

Hello, I am new to the world of hi-fi audio and I am looking for some feed back on some headphones I am looking to buy. The headphones are Grado Labs sr 325 is, Akg k 271 mk II, Akg k 702, B&W p5, and the Sennheiser hd 600. First off let me say that I will not have an amp for at least two to three months but when I do get an amp it will either be a Schiit Lyr or the Valhalla. But for the time being the headphones will be powered by my home receiver, computer, or iPod. What I am looking for from these headphones are sound quality, comfortability, and fit and finish. I will be using them a lot so i don't want something so fragile that when I put them down wrong they will break. I listen to all types of music ranging from Sweatshop Union to Pink Floyd, so the bass should have a strong presence but not over power the mids or the highs. Also I would like my mids lush and full and my highs silky smooth. But as of this moment I have the strong urge to buy the Grados because of their reputation but I just wanted to hear other more experienced audiophiles.


I think the P5 would be the best choice out of those if you're using them as a portable headphone at all. They look great, sound great, and are deceptivly durable. They're a pretty good all rounder from the little I've heard from them, which seems like what you need if you listen to large variety.

Although Grado wouldn't be a bad choice if they're only for home use. I will warn that Grado has a very specific sound and if you dislike it, you're pretty much never going to go after a Grado again.
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Anyone have an

 

opinion on Shure 530s vs Sennheiser HD25-1 IIs?  I just saw the review with the Adidas versions and wow, they look awesome.  How do they compare to the Shures as I might end up getting them

 

 

 

 

post #3304 of 29490

I hate this hobby.... :P

 

This editor is also terrible

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Originally Posted by the new kid 36 View Post

Hello, I am new to the world of hi-fi audio and I am looking for some feed back on some headphones I am looking to buy. The headphones are Grado Labs sr 325 is, Akg k 271 mk II, Akg k 702, B&W p5, and the Sennheiser hd 600. First off let me say that I will not have an amp for at least two to three months but when I do get an amp it will either be a Schiit Lyr or the Valhalla. But for the time being the headphones will be powered by my home receiver, computer, or iPod. What I am looking for from these headphones are sound quality, comfortability, and fit and finish. I will be using them a lot so i don't want something so fragile that when I put them down wrong they will break. I listen to all types of music ranging from Sweatshop Union to Pink Floyd, so the bass should have a strong presence but not over power the mids or the highs. Also I would like my mids lush and full and my highs silky smooth. But as of this moment I have the strong urge to buy the Grados because of their reputation but I just wanted to hear other more experienced audiophiles.


If you're going to be using them at home then you'll probably want to go with an open 'phone (since they usually sound better) unless you've got some background noise to deal with like a load A/C unit or if sound leakage might bother someone else in the same room.

That crosses off the 271s and P5s

Second, if you want a comfortable pair, then you should probably stay away from the Grados. Most people find them uncomfortable.

Now for the sound. There isn't anything in your price range I know of that has deep bass, lush mids, and smooth highs. You've essentially asked for a perfect headphone, and that doesn't exist. There are some fairly balanced choices in the price range you're looking at though. The 701 focuses more on the mids and highs. The last few octaves of bass are a bit weak and some find the highs a bit harsh or excessive. The HD600 has lush mids and smoother highs with a smidgen more bass. You may also want to look at the Beyerdynamic DT880 It has better extended bass and treble but the mids are are a little cold sounding.

Another word of advice. Due to the impedance curves of the Beyers and Senns they'll likely (I can't tell you for sure without more details about it) have more bass on your receiver than the Lyr. They'll sound like they were designed to on the Lyr but your preferences may be different.
Edited by maverickronin - 4/21/11 at 6:49pm
post #3306 of 29490

Hey there! Buying my first set of headphones and hopefully they'll last a while.

 

HD448
HD228
Aviators
HD215
HD515
HD438
HD218

 

These are the headphones I can choose from. I'm looking for a good bass, I listen to them in a quiet environment, and the genres are pretty broad: rap/hip-hop/techno/dance/classical/rock, plus gaming. 

 

I'm leaning towards the 448's. I love the look of the Aviators, although apparently the bass isn't too good on them and people are bashing their sound quality. So can anyone with experience with some of these make a recommendation please?

post #3307 of 29490

Need recommendation on a set of open cans that do well with basically every type of music. $600 limit.

 

Thanks

post #3308 of 29490
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Anyone have an

 

opinion on Shure 530s vs Sennheiser HD25-1 IIs?  I just saw the review with the Adidas versions and wow, they look awesome.  How do they compare to the Shures as I might end up getting them

 

 

 

 


I've never heard the HD25s but if you like the Shure house sound, I doubt they'll better than the SE530s at anything except treble extension which is the 530s only weak point IMO. I like their sound and I've had a hard time finding anything full size and reasonably priced that I like better.

Out of all the 'phones on my lists They are almost my favorite. My HD650s are tied with them and only my modded Fostex T50RPs and SE535s are better to my ears and tastes.

If you aren't a fan of the Shure sound then you'll likely think differently. What kind of sound sig are you looking for?
post #3309 of 29490
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Need recommendation on a set of open cans that do well with basically every type of music. $600 limit.

 

Thanks


Used HE-5LE or probably new HE-4, if you've already got a strong amp. I haven't heard the HE-4s but they're supposed be identical to the HE-5LEs except less efficient.

The HE-5LEs have strong extension on both ends with smoothness throughout the spectrum. Their mild "smile curve" FR shouldn't limit genre bandwidth much.
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Originally Posted by DivergeUnify View Post

Anyone have an

 

opinion on Shure 530s vs Sennheiser HD25-1 IIs?  I just saw the review with the Adidas versions and wow, they look awesome.  How do they compare to the Shures as I might end up getting them

 

 

 

 




I've never heard the HD25s but if you like the Shure house sound, I doubt they'll better than the SE530s at anything except treble extension which is the 530s only weak point IMO. I like their sound and I've had a hard time finding anything full size and reasonably priced that I like better.

Out of all the 'phones on my lists They are almost my favorite. My HD650s are tied with them and only my modded Fostex T50RPs and SE535s are better to my ears and tastes.

If you aren't a fan of the Shure sound then you'll likely think differently. What kind of sound sig are you looking for?


Sig doesn't really matter that much to me- mids are the most important thing to me.  I bought a pair of Grado 325is to get a sound really different from the 530s and I love them both( although I definitely find the Grados superior). 

 

I just don't want a dark set of headphones.  Not really aggressive treble, but I guess more extended than the Shure's.

 


Edited by DivergeUnify - 4/21/11 at 7:20pm
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Sig doesn't really matter that much to me- mids are the most important thing to me.  I bought a pair of Grado 325is to get a sound really different from the 530s and I love them both( although I definitely find the Grados superior). 

 

I just don't want a dark set of headphones.  Not really aggressive treble, but I guess more extended than the Shure's.

 


Shures have about the best mids in the business to my ears. Most things I've heard that are better in that area are a lot more expensive. From the graphs it doesn't look to have anywhere near as much treble as the SR325s, but still more than the SE530s.
post #3312 of 29490

I just thought I'd share my experience with Grados (SR80i and RS1i).

 

I have worn them regularly for between 1 and 4 hours at a time and haven't felt any discomfort whatsoever. And in the poking around this site and others that I've done in the last 2 years, I haven't found that my experience is a decidedly minority one...

 

Sound wise, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either Grado I own to others.

 

So if you've never heard a Grado headphone and are thinking about taking the plunge, don't let hearing that some people find them uncomfortable stop you.

 

In fact, I would be surprised to hear that a good number of people around here wouldn't put the Grado SR series on their list of most recommended for so-called "noobs" to try to "see what the fuss is about"...without breaking the bank. (That comes later smile.gif)

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post #3314 of 29490

I made a thread earlier, but realized this might be a better place to post. I have been using an my dads old pair of QC3s that work on and off and use cheap skull candy earbuds when i dont need to reattach the wire. I would like a new pair of cans since the sound quality of my QC3s has diminished greatly.  I do need to take a trip to guitar center, but it is a one hour bike ride and my parents have other priorities than driving me around places (I have yet to get my drivers license). I am looking in the $600 range (650 wont be a problem).

The models I have been looking at are:

Pioneer HDJ-2000 and SE-DIR800C

Sennheiser HD650 (anyone know a sub 1000 deal on the HD800s :D)

Grado RS1i

AKG K701

 

I listen to almost any kind of music.  I like Dub Step, Alt Rock, Classical, Jazz, and a bit of Country.

 

Thanks in advance

post #3315 of 29490

for the classical and jazz the i find the AKGs to be beautiful, but they are hit and miss for other genres. I personally like them, but unless you pair them with a really suitable amp they suck fun and soul out of music. The sound they produce can be quite "thin" and the bass is too light for some and spot on for others. i like them because of the some what "airy" sound they produce and the way that brings out detail in music. i love being able to hear every note by every member of a quintet and these do that perfectly.  That's a double edged sword though as simple music with little "going on" tends to sound very thin and lifeless, makes Simon and Garfunkel sound one dimensional for example.

 

I am personally not a massive fan of the sen 650s, so i wont comment on them (note that i haven't spent much time with them either) . But alot of people really like them and i can see why that is so.

 

haven't listened to the Pioneer or Grado. I'm fairly new to the scene (as you can tell by my post count :P ) so hopefully i can get to hear some more high end gear some time soon.

 

Headphones are a very personal thing, once you get over $200 or so its more about what you personally like in music rather than what is technically better or more accurate. so its a good idea to read through reviews of any sets you are thinking of and pay attention to what people are saying about the qualities that those emphasize in the music. Then decide what you think you would like and go and audition those ones to make sure.

 

keep in mind that most, if not all of those headphones will require amping. Which most of the time will cost more than the headphones themselves. For example my (modest at best) entry level AKG 702 set up was $235(headphones) + 140(Fiio E9 Amp) + 79(fiio E7 DAC) = $454.

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