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Yeah--you have not been around for a while.  Both the HD 600 & 650 now are normally priced well north of $300--thanks to Senn's MAP.

 

Depending on your choice of sound signatures, you are probably best off checking out the DT 880 Pro (250 Ohms) and Q 701.

 

 

Are you suggesting those in general, or just within my price range?

 

I've seen the 650 for ~$450, and I figure I could stretch to that amount if needed.

 

How different are the DT 880's from the DT 770's?


I very much like the HD 600 & 650.  Of course there is more and better competition at $400 to $500 than there was at about $300.

 

The audiophile oriented and open DT 880 are massively different than the closed, bass heavy and mids light DT 770.  More about (best flavor of) the DT 880 here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-ultimate-ears-uerm-added-4-14-13#user_DT880

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I am looking for a pair of full-size cans that will be my "go-to" listen to all the time cans. I currently have several iems and a few full-size cans. Current inventory of IEMs: Shure SE215, Klipsch Image S4A and Reference S4, MeElectronics M6, Ety ER6i, and Senn MX719. My cans are: Monoprice 8323 and an old MDR-V600.

 

So, I love the sound of the SE215s and similarly the Monoprices (but the comfort on these is bad, after an hour I just want to take them off). I would like to get a sound signature similar to these - full impactful bass, nice midrange, smooth treble - but an open can with a bigger soundstage. Problem is that I don't really have anywhere close where I can audition any of these. I have to drive to San Jose ~100 miles to find respectable hi-fi dealers.

 

Here are the cans I am considering: AT ATH-AD900x, AKG Q701/K702, K240, Hifiman HE400, Beyer DT880, DT990, Shure SRH-840/940, Grado SR125/225, Senn HD598. I would like to keep my cost around $200, which kinda rules out the HE400s, but I believe these would be an excellent fit for my needs. I am concerned that the ATH-AD900s and Q701/K702 might not have enough bass (also HD598 apparently have anemic bass), but I hear understand they have excellent sound stage. The Beyers might be good choices and I can get the pros in my price range. Shures should have a sound signature I like, but is the sound stage open enough? Grado's I have comfort concerns again (along with Q701).

 

Other notes. Sources is mostly high-quality flac/MP3 -> iPod/Cowon Z2/PC/Mac Pro -> FiiO E10, E11, E17.

 

So, which Can is going to give me the best sound/comfort at the $200-$250 pricepoint with my criteria?

 

Thanks,

DrKraut 


Edited by DrKraut - 5/10/13 at 11:05am
post #28383 of 29491
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Originally Posted by DrKraut View Post

I am looking for a pair of full-size cans that will be my "go-to" listen to all the time cans. I currently have several iems and a few full-size cans. Current inventory of IEMs: Shure SE215, Klipsch Image S4A and Reference S4, MeElectronics M6, Ety ER6i, and Senn MX719. My cans are: Monoprice 8323 and an old MDR-V600.

 

So, I love the sound of the SE215s and similarly the Monoprices (but the comfort on these is bad, after an hour I just want to take them off). I would like to get a sound signature similar to these - full impactful bass, nice midrange, smooth treble - but an open can with a bigger soundstage. Problem is that I don't really have anywhere close where I can audition any of these. I have to drive to San Jose ~100 miles to find respectable hi-fi dealers.

 

Here are the cans I am considering: AT ATH-AD900x, AKG Q701/K702, K240, Hifiman HE400, Beyer DT880, DT990, Shure SRH-840/940, Grado SR125/225, Senn HD598. I would like to keep my cost around $200, which kinda rules out the HE400s, but I believe these would be an excellent fit for my needs. I am concerned that the ATH-AD900s and Q701/K702 might not have enough bass (also HD598 apparently have anemic bass), but I hear understand they have excellent sound stage. The Beyers might be good choices and I can get the pros in my price range. Shures should have a sound signature I like, but is the sound stage open enough? Grado's I have comfort concerns again (along with Q701).

 

Other notes. Sources is mostly high-quality flac/MP3 -> iPod/Cowon Z2/PC/Mac Pro -> FiiO E10, E11, E17.

 

So, which Can is going to give me the best sound/comfort at the $200-$250 pricepoint with my criteria?

 

Thanks,

DrKraut 

I'd say the best overall matches are DT990s or the more balanced, less bassy DT880s. Both are superbly comfortable with good soundstage.  Just to reiterate; DT990s=fuller bass and less midrange

post #28384 of 29491
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Originally Posted by DrKraut View Post

I am looking for a pair of full-size cans that will be my "go-to" listen to all the time cans. I currently have several iems and a few full-size cans. Current inventory of IEMs: Shure SE215, Klipsch Image S4A and Reference S4, MeElectronics M6, Ety ER6i, and Senn MX719. My cans are: Monoprice 8323 and an old MDR-V600.

So, I love the sound of the SE215s and similarly the Monoprices (but the comfort on these is bad, after an hour I just want to take them off). I would like to get a sound signature similar to these - full impactful bass, nice midrange, smooth treble - but an open can with a bigger soundstage. Problem is that I don't really have anywhere close where I can audition any of these. I have to drive to San Jose ~100 miles to find respectable hi-fi dealers.

Here are the cans I am considering: AT ATH-AD900x, AKG Q701/K702, K240, Hifiman HE400, Beyer DT880, DT990, Shure SRH-840/940, Grado SR125/225, Senn HD598. I would like to keep my cost around $200, which kinda rules out the HE400s, but I believe these would be an excellent fit for my needs. I am concerned that the ATH-AD900s and Q701/K702 might not have enough bass (also HD598 apparently have anemic bass), but I hear understand they have excellent sound stage. The Beyers might be good choices and I can get the pros in my price range. Shures should have a sound signature I like, but is the sound stage open enough? Grado's I have comfort concerns again (along with Q701).

Other notes. Sources is mostly high-quality flac/MP3 -> iPod/Cowon Z2/PC/Mac Pro -> FiiO E10, E11, E17.

So, which Can is going to give me the best sound/comfort at the $200-$250 pricepoint with my criteria?

Thanks,
DrKraut 

If your afraid of anemic bass, that rules out (from my reading): k701/2, and grados, maybe even hd598, but you should seriously consider the Sony mdr ma900. They've definitely got enough bass, and a huge soundstage.

It should be a toss up between the dt880 and mdr ma900.
post #28385 of 29491
I guess I'll be going with the HD 449 and trying the bass mod.

Anyone got an opinion? People say the HD 449 is a dissapointment
post #28386 of 29491
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I am concerned that the ATH-AD900s and Q701/K702 might not have enough bass (also HD598 apparently have anemic bass), but I hear understand they have excellent sound stage.

It depends on what you mean by anemic bass. Most of the people describing the bass as anemic are looking for deep sub bass (40hz and below output) or bass emphasis (more bass than a neutral response). The bass in the Q701's not anemic. As a comparison, the Q701 is more like what you get from a good pair of bookshelf speakers with 5" or 6" drivers with decent 50hz response. Even the Grado SR225i can do OK down to 50hz with a little bass boost to bring them up to a more neutral response because their response is more mid and treble forward. Of those three, the DT880s will certainly have the most bass and be more like what you would get from a tower speaker with decent low end response.
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If your afraid of anemic bass, that rules out (from my reading): k701/2, and grados, maybe even hd598, but you should seriously consider the Sony mdr ma900. They've definitely got enough bass, and a huge soundstage.

It should be a toss up between the dt880 and mdr ma900.

Based on my reading of measurements of the Sony MA900s (I have not heard them and measurements don't tell the whole story), they probably will have some midbass emphasis, but not too good for sub bass either, and may not have much more bass than the Q701s. Best to see if someone has compared those two directly.
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If there's any metalheads in here, if you would kindly visit my "portable headphones for metal" thread, I would appreciate it. I still can't find a headphone as a worthy upgrade to my bose AE2 headphones. I'm stuck on the prospect of getting monitoring headphones like the Sony V6 and somehow modifying the cable or braiding it to make it portable. Suffice to say, I'm in need of help. I can't figure out what portable headphone I should get. Some recommendations would be appreciated.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663295/help-a-metalhead-find-grab-and-go-headphones-please


Edited by Hifi Man - 5/10/13 at 12:03pm
post #28388 of 29491
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I very much like the HD 600 & 650.  Of course there is more and better competition at $400 to $500 than there was at about $300.

 

The audiophile oriented and open DT 880 are massively different than the closed, bass heavy and mids light DT 770.  More about (best flavor of) the DT 880 here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-ultimate-ears-uerm-added-4-14-13#user_DT880

 

 

Thanks. Much appreciated.

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Would the Phillips Citiscape Up/Downtowns be suitable for rock and metal etc? Bearing in mind I listen to pretty much everything, so anything from Sweet to Mozart with Einaudi in the middle. Apart from the physical differences, what are the main differences between the two? They both seem to be quite highly rated.

 

Would I be right in saying the Uptowns would be better for isolation and leakage, which is an almost neurotic distraction for me?

 

On Amazon UK the Uptowns are currently £56 and the Downtowns £49, though I do have a £10 voucher to be used up.

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Would the Phillips Citiscape Up/Downtowns be suitable for rock and metal etc? Bearing in mind I listen to pretty much everything, so anything from Sweet to Mozart with Einaudi in the middle. Apart from the physical differences, what are the main differences between the two? They both seem to be quite highly rated.

 

Would I be right in saying the Uptowns would be better for isolation and leakage, which is an almost neurotic distraction for me?

 

On Amazon UK the Uptowns are currently £56 and the Downtowns £49, though I do have a £10 voucher to be used up.


Those are cans with a colored sound signature that won't go well with Mozart.

 

If you like a bass oriented sound that does not quite get you into basshead territory, then maybe they are for you.

post #28391 of 29491
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Those are cans with a colored sound signature that won't go well with Mozart.

 

If you like a bass oriented sound that does not quite get you into basshead territory, then maybe they are for you.

Thanks for the quick reply.

 

I'm leaning toward the Uptown at the moment, would I be right with the isolation+leakage being better than the Downtown?

 

As I say, I listen to most things so as long as they can cope I don't mind them lacking in some areas as that's probably to be expected.

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I have the first two and the older AD900.

Comfort is a very individual thing.  However, the MA 900 is very light and I would expect few to have comfort issues with it.

Choosing between those three very fine cans will almost certainly come down to personal preference,including how well each works with your existing or soon to be added equipment. 

Which is best for listening to rock?
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I have the first two and the older AD900.

Comfort is a very individual thing.  However, the MA 900 is very light and I would expect few to have comfort issues with it.

Choosing between those three very fine cans will almost certainly come down to personal preference,including how well each works with your existing or soon to be added equipment. 

Which is best for listening to rock?


That's a matter of both personal taste (mostly) and what kind of rock (as well).

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What do guys you think of a AKG 702 + Schiit Modi/Magni for Classical?

Bump.

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I am very much torn finding cans for general use. At present i have the Superlux 668b which i need to replace with closed cans as the wife is constantly complaining about hearing my music. My requirements can be based off my experience with the Superlux.

 

To me, the superlux had about the right amount of sound stage. The highs are a little on the shrilly side, kinda harsh on some things IMO. The Superlux also do not have the kind of bass i want. Now i am not a basshead and do not want bloated ugly bass. I like bass to present when its supposed to be but gone when its not. Such as say Eminem, i expect the bass to be punchy like bump bump not boomy.

 

I listen to rock, jazz, classical, symphony, alternative, country, techno, some dubstep, a little pop, even less rap, tons of classic rock, southern rock, some punk, and im sure i am missing other ganres but i figure you get the idea. I listen a little of everything all in FLAC ripped from cd or purchased in FLAC form. I dont like mp3 sound at least that which i have heard and itunes purchased AAC isnt any better from my ears.

 

As for my source i have Xonar DX, Xonar DG, ALC889A with dolby home theater, and an old pioneer vsx- 514. Of all these i prefer the sound of the DX but it does not have an amp for headphones. With the dg the superlux sound pretty descent in my ears minus the slight lack of bass and sometimes sharp highs.

 

My budget is slim. 100 is my max with maybe only tax going over that amount. From research i have looked at

SRH440 - im worried about the bass not being enough

KRK KNS6800- worried about the lack of reviews other than "OMG THESE ARE TEH EPIC" and "OMG TIS DA SUX"

sennheisers- all seem out of my price range for any which have a sound which seems close, based on reviews

 

So i am at a loss. I can use the DG if i need the amp, but them by speakers which are 2.1 dayton bookshelves with lepai 2020A+ and 10 inch sub seem to sound less than stellar. The DX sounds good with the speakers and so does onboard but headphones, not so much. Or at least with the headphones i have anyway.

 

So, hit me with what someone experienced with some cans in the sound area i described and please, i cant spend more so telling me to get a DAC and amp and blah will just be a waste of time.

 

For the record, i already searched around my home town and cannot find anywhere with the SRH440 or the KRK to test them so im hopeing i gave enough of sound sig information to get pointed in a descent direction.

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