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post #27601 of 29491

Hello, I have a Hifiman-he500 on order because I wanted to try orhto's. I heard it sounds great in most of the review I read. My amp is a Samson S Amp, my DAC is a HRT Music Streamer II. I was wondering what DAC and Amp is should i really go for. I have 30 days to return to the HRT Music Streamer II. Budget 200 max on amp and 200 max on DAC. I would like to save as much as possible. It would be great if a Magni/Modi would be good enough. Let me know thanks.

post #27602 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Rightclick/Scissors View Post

Hey guys,

Trying to figure out some monitor cans for making electronic music. I already have the universally acclaimed ATH-M50's and am looking for another for a second reference, and...well, just to enjoy having two.

Since my M50s are closed, I was thinking maybe I should look at some open ones?

1) Are open headphones better/worse/same for monitoring?
2) My frontrunners are :

-AKG K701, K702 or Q701

-Sony MDR 7506 / 7509

-Beyerdynamic 770/990 Pro. I'm a little confused by the Ohmage variants, though. Are the Pro ranges different from the regulars?

-Senn 600s. I've heard these are more 'neutral' than the 650s, thus better for monitoring. 

-ATH AD900x.


Any advice to offer? I have a good sense of each of the brand's quirks and subtleties, but not much between in terms of how the models vary. e.g. the difference between the 7506 and 7509, or between the 770 and 990.

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Cheers,

Can't comment on a lot of your post, but I can point this out: the DT770s are closed headphones while the 990s are open. I've read somewhere that the 990s have the most recessed mids of the DT line, but I could be mistaken.
post #27603 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Rightclick/Scissors View Post

Hey guys,

 

Trying to figure out some monitor cans for making electronic music. I already have the universally acclaimed ATH-M50's and am looking for another for a second reference, and...well, just to enjoy having two.

 

Since my M50s are closed, I was thinking maybe I should look at some open ones?

 

1) Are open headphones better/worse/same for monitoring?

2) My frontrunners are :

 

-AKG K701, K702 or Q701

 

-Sony MDR 7506 / 7509

 

-Beyerdynamic 770/990 Pro. I'm a little confused by the Ohmage variants, though. Are the Pro ranges different from the regulars?

 

-Senn 600s. I've heard these are more 'neutral' than the 650s, thus better for monitoring. 

 

-ATH AD900x.

 

 

Any advice to offer? I have a good sense of each of the brand's quirks and subtleties, but not much between in terms of how the models vary. e.g. the difference between the 7506 and 7509, or between the 770 and 990.

 

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

 

Cheers,

wanna look into the cd900st as a possibility.

 

The k70x's are fine. Cold is probably the way you'd like it for monitoring. Though the bass is light. 

 

The 7506/v6 are great, but I heard their basses are a bit much. I'm not sure about the 7509 though. 


Edited by MrViolin - 4/21/13 at 7:10pm
post #27604 of 29491
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Can't comment on a lot of your post, but I can point this out: the DT770s are closed headphones while the 990s are open. I've read somewhere that the 990s have the most recessed mids of the DT line, but I could be mistaken.

 

Thanks.

post #27605 of 29491
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Hi KG Jag,

 

At the moment I do not have any amp, I mainly listen via my computer via onboard sound ( I am aware that anything other than onboard sound is an upgrade, but I haven't been able to afford a sizable budget to upgrade ). I'm thinking of getting Schiit Modi + Magni  (or something more powerful (like Asgard2 + Modi ?) depending on the headphone choice ).

 

It's hard to describe the sound signature, as my ears are trained to this headphone for years ( I grow up with it ), so my taste will be heavily biased. I prefer something that shows better sound stage ( so that I can *see* where the pianist sat in an orcheastra in my head ), cleaner mid (?) ( sometimes i find that vocal can muddle/cover the musics that played at the same time ), and a tad more bass when I listen to rock (it doesn't seem to have enough punch ).


Straight out of onboard computer audio, I don't suggest that you spend more that $100 to $150 on your cans.  You just won't get enough or even any benefit of quality cans above that level.  If you want something now, the CAL! is a great choice--at least at U.S. prices.

 

Beyond (or instead of) that get a decent dac/amp or sound card that includes a decent amp.  Use your remaining budget on good can.  Based on our prices, that should leave you about $250 to $300, which will open the door to some fine mid-fi headphones.

post #27606 of 29491
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Originally Posted by cheesegrados View Post

Hello, I have a Hifiman-he500 on order because I wanted to try orhto's. I heard it sounds great in most of the review I read. My amp is a Samson S Amp, my DAC is a HRT Music Streamer II. I was wondering what DAC and Amp is should i really go for. I have 30 days to return to the HRT Music Streamer II. Budget 200 max on amp and 200 max on DAC. I would like to save as much as possible. It would be great if a Magni/Modi would be good enough. Let me know thanks.


I don't know your present equipment.  I know that Schiit claims that the $200 combo of Magni/Modi are up to the job of driving the HE 500.  I don't have personal knowledge to address that claim, but tend to trust them.  Just the same, this is a system that will probably just get you in the door.  I can tell you that my Asgard can drive the HE 500.  I'll bet the $249 Asgard 2 does even better.  That is the level I would aim for.  The HE 500 is a great can.  If you have the budget to avoid it, you don't want to short change yourself with marginal or just OK links in your audio chain that delivers the music to them.

post #27607 of 29491

hello guys, i'm new to the head-fi forum and world of headhone so i need your help :D

 

i saw ATH in amazon japan and it's absolutely cheaper than in any other online web i saw

but may be it's because ATH is japan manufactur so it's cheap, am i correct?

 

then i browse some other headphone to compare and found that beyerdynamic is also much cheaper

let say three headphone i saw were :

 

- DT 770 pro 250 ohm version price at 17800 yen

- DT 880 pro 250 ohm version price at 21800 yen

- T 70 250 ohm version price at 26800 yen

 

what make me confused is that beyerdynamic is german manufacture, so why these line-up relatively cheaper than in other online store, let say amazon.com?

 

 

and also i found in every listing i found in beyerdynamic, it says [TEAC] in fron of the product name. what is this mean?

 

and does they have any difference with the one in amazon.com?

 

 

thanks and appreciate your help :D

post #27608 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Straight out of onboard computer audio, I don't suggest that you spend more that $100 to $150 on your cans.  You just won't get enough or even any benefit of quality cans above that level.  If you want something now, the CAL! is a great choice--at least at U.S. prices.

 

Beyond (or instead of) that get a decent dac/amp or sound card that includes a decent amp.  Use your remaining budget on good can.  Based on our prices, that should leave you about $250 to $300, which will open the door to some fine mid-fi headphones.

 

Sorry I didn't mention my plan clear enough.

 

I plan to move away from onboard sound. I plan to spend < $500 on headphones (willing to go higher up to around $1k if it's really worth it), and will spec out another budget for dac/amp once I settle on headphone. My motherboard supports S/PDIF, so I can go either optical out / USB DAC if required. 


Edited by NamelessOne - 4/21/13 at 9:50pm
post #27609 of 29491
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Originally Posted by avesta07 View Post

hello guys, i'm new to the head-fi forum and world of headhone so i need your help :D

 

i saw ATH in amazon japan and it's absolutely cheaper than in any other online web i saw

but may be it's because ATH is japan manufactur so it's cheap, am i correct?

 

then i browse some other headphone to compare and found that beyerdynamic is also much cheaper

let say three headphone i saw were :

 

- DT 770 pro 250 ohm version price at 17800 yen

- DT 880 pro 250 ohm version price at 21800 yen

- T 70 250 ohm version price at 26800 yen

 

what make me confused is that beyerdynamic is german manufacture, so why these line-up relatively cheaper than in other online store, let say amazon.com?

 

 

and also i found in every listing i found in beyerdynamic, it says [TEAC] in fron of the product name. what is this mean?

 

and does they have any difference with the one in amazon.com?

 

 

thanks and appreciate your help :D

should try german amazon as well wink.gif

post #27610 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Straight out of onboard computer audio, I don't suggest that you spend more that $100 to $150 on your cans.  You just won't get enough or even any benefit of quality cans above that level.  If you want something now, the CAL! is a great choice--at least at U.S. prices.

 

Beyond (or instead of) that get a decent dac/amp or sound card that includes a decent amp.  Use your remaining budget on good can.  Based on our prices, that should leave you about $250 to $300, which will open the door to some fine mid-fi headphones.

 

Sorry I didn't mention my plan clear enough.

 

I plan to move away from onboard sound. I plan to spend < $500 on headphones (willing to go higher up to around $1k if it's really worth it), and will spec out another budget for dac/amp once I settle on headphone. My motherboard supports S/PDIF, so I can go either optical out / USB DAC if required. 


If you can afford it (and an open can will work for you), try to build your system around the HE 500.

post #27611 of 29491
Hi Head-Fiers biggrin.gif

I'm new to the hi-fi world (started looking around in Jan),

I currently have some Beyer DT 990 prems, Etymotic ER-4Bs, some Senn Aptx headphones for mobility, use a DAC with some Amp & Lossless music

I'm currently after some $1000-$2000+ headphones for reference, however I'd like wood ones that I can switch pads to test different wood types with! (I have a buddy who is a world-class wood carver)

Sorry about the weird request! I'd be happy to be pointed in the right direction ^^

Notes: I'm cool with suggestions for modded Grados, Denons etc
Music I listen to is pretty ordinary pop and trance ^^'

Thanks!
post #27612 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


If you can afford it (and an open can will work for you), try to build your system around the HE 500.


Thanks !

 

I prefer closed headphone so I won't bother anyone around me.

post #27613 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

The sound signature change alone will be more than enough for you to heard a big difference--even with a not-so-neutral (but much more so than Beats) M50.

what do you mean when you say sound signature? 

post #27614 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

What is your budget?

 

Are you OK with open cans (they leak sound)?

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

If you don't know your preferred sound signature (and even if you do), what genres of music do you plan to run through these cans?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

 

- Up to about $170

- Well, they shouldn't leak too much sound. Half-Closed should still be okay though.

- They'll probably be powered with this http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-System-SB1240/dp/B004275EO4

- mp3, aac, dts, flac, pretty much everything. 

- I like clean, precise sound.

- That's what I put the YT Links for. It's mostly electronic music. ;)

- Not really.

 

YT Links again so you don't have to go back to the old post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSL3m8FvQs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UPCLR8-Aeo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-IWRmpefzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDvC3VmaGpY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Qfoi1pVbQ

post #27615 of 29491

Hello, I want to buy a headphone for maximum €150,- ($200 max). They need to be over ear and closed, and they shouldn't need an amp.

I'm listening to rap/hiphop, but that doesn't mean all I want is bass. I want a neutral headphone with very slight emphasis on bass, with very good instrument separation and details, with very good mids and highs. Also, the vocals need to sound really clear.

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