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post #26206 of 29491
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Originally Posted by infinitesnow View Post

Hi everyone!
I'm planning to replace my hi-fi with a headphone rig. I've underlined what I was thinking to buy, in addition to the headphones

OVERALL BUDGET: 600€ (I consider the secondhand market)
USE: Both outdoor (on trains, at the university), both at home
SOURCE: iPhone 4 (192kbps) + low-quality friendly portable amp  / macbook pro + hiface + Valab NOS dac (will replace these two if needed) + full-size amp at home
ISOLATION: Needed.
SIGNATURE: Deep but clear bass, possibly realistic trebles, good stage (at least with home configuration). Strong sound temper, but also sturdy manufacuring.

I have been adviced for the Sony MDR-7520 which don't need amplification. But I'd prefer to have different amplifications for mobility and home due to the different quality of the source. What do you think? Is this a correct approach?

Thank You in advance!

 

There's generally nothing wrong with throwing an amp in between an highly efficient can and its source. Most of the time, it will help. I, too, was looking at the MDR-7520, but I just happen to find a real great deal on a Shure SRH940 instead. When I get around to it, I'll seek out the 7520 just to hear it.

 

Maybe throw the Shure SRH840 and DT770 Pro just to have something else to compare the 7520 to.

post #26207 of 29491
well, my final choice was the shure 440s. any experience with them?
post #26208 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

I just got the mdr 1r and while they are great for portable use and home use, i know i can get something with a wider soundstage for gaming and rock for home use in the same price range.

 

Cans i see that are recommended the most include: SR225i, MA900, hd598.

 

Best open rock and R&B headphones in between $200 and $300

Indoor, Gaming

Ipod 4, Galaxy Media Player, 270-320kb/s, maybe fiio e11 or e6

Dont need isolation

Something with a wide soundstage, and sounds like the mdr 1r with mid emphasis, or at least just no recessed mids.  SR80i were good for rock but too uncomfortable without mods.

 

Thanks!


Go with the HD 598. 

 

The Grado is designed for slam and the Grado wall of sound.  That is not the best for gaming and a wide/deep sound stage.

post #26209 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Sekhmet View Post

well, my final choice was the shure 440s. any experience with them?


They are a good closed can in their price range with a good amount of features, like their removable cable, for their price point.  You might want to swap out their ear pads with the replacement pads for the SRH 840, which are significantly more comfortable to many due to their memory foam.

post #26210 of 29491

Greetings!

I seek wisdom regarding the Hifiman HE-500 and HE-400.

 

I want to buy either of these headphones, however I have only heard the 500. To be frank, I was absolutely blown away by it. I think it could be my 'end game' headphone.

My problem is that where I am in Germany I cannot find an HE-400 for audition to compare to the 500. 

 

My main question is: What are the noticeable and notable differences between the two and are the extra 300 euros truly worth it?

I listen to quite a lot of rock and acoustic music, and wonder if the dip in the upper mids of the HE-400 would badly effect the genres for my taste (I love Grados mids and treble for rock but I don't like the bass roll-off). 

 

I'm selling my Grado RS2i to fund the new headphone.

For reference - That leaves me with Senneheiser Momentum, Beyer DT990 (vintage) and AKG K241 (vintage) 

post #26211 of 29491
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

Greetings!

I seek wisdom regarding the Hifiman HE-500 and HE-400.

 

I want to buy either of these headphones, however I have only heard the 500. To be frank, I was absolutely blown away by it. I think it could be my 'end game' headphone.

My problem is that where I am in Germany I cannot find an HE-400 for audition to compare to the 500. 

 

My main question is: What are the noticeable and notable differences between the two and are the extra 300 euros truly worth it?

I listen to quite a lot of rock and acoustic music, and wonder if the dip in the upper mids of the HE-400 would badly effect the genres for my taste (I love Grados mids and treble for rock but I don't like the bass roll-off). 

 

I'm selling my Grado RS2i to fund the new headphone.

For reference - That leaves me with Senneheiser Momentum, Beyer DT990 (vintage) and AKG K241 (vintage) 


If you have to dump your RS2i, only the HE 500 is a clear step up.  The 500 is neutral with it all there.  You can read about the 400, 500 and even your Grado here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-hifiman-he-400-added-12-24-12

post #26212 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

I just got the mdr 1r and while they are great for portable use and home use, i know i can get something with a wider soundstage for gaming and rock for home use in the same price range.

 

Cans i see that are recommended the most include: SR225i, MA900, hd598.

 

Best open rock and R&B headphones in between $200 and $300

Indoor, Gaming

Ipod 4, Galaxy Media Player, 270-320kb/s, maybe fiio e11 or e6

Dont need isolation

Something with a wide soundstage, and sounds like the mdr 1r with mid emphasis, or at least just no recessed mids.  SR80i were good for rock but too uncomfortable without mods.

 

Thanks!

 

Sennheiser, although I'd pick up a used 600 or 650 instead of a hd598.

 

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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

Greetings!

I seek wisdom regarding the Hifiman HE-500 and HE-400.

 

I want to buy either of these headphones, however I have only heard the 500. To be frank, I was absolutely blown away by it. I think it could be my 'end game' headphone.

My problem is that where I am in Germany I cannot find an HE-400 for audition to compare to the 500. 

 

My main question is: What are the noticeable and notable differences between the two and are the extra 300 euros truly worth it?

I listen to quite a lot of rock and acoustic music, and wonder if the dip in the upper mids of the HE-400 would badly effect the genres for my taste (I love Grados mids and treble for rock but I don't like the bass roll-off). 

 

I'm selling my Grado RS2i to fund the new headphone.

For reference - That leaves me with Senneheiser Momentum, Beyer DT990 (vintage) and AKG K241 (vintage) 

 

I would go for the 500 if you know you like it. Most people consider it an upgrade from the 400 and also the RS2i

post #26213 of 29491

Hi guys, totally new at this...

 

I'm looking to upgrade from my current combo of Cowon S9 + Audio Technica AD700s, I'd like to keep the S9 as it is a great little player (battery lasts for ages and it sounds great) but I need new headphones and possibly a DIY portable amp (I'm looking for a desktop DAC and an amp secondhand as I can't afford new) but back to the headphones...

 

I like tight punchy bass and am not a fan of boomy bass - I listen to a lot of progressive and 'regular' metal (Between the Buried and Me, Opeth, Ihsahn, Cynic, Gojira, Bloodbath) but I also enjoy the musical stylings of Steven Wilson, the Dire Straits and Pink Floyd.

 

My budget is ~$500 AUD for the headphones is this adequate to upgrade from the AD700s?

 

Cheers - I better go read some more info threads..

post #26214 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

Hi guys, totally new at this...

 

I'm looking to upgrade from my current combo of Cowon S9 + Audio Technica AD700s, I'd like to keep the S9 as it is a great little player (battery lasts for ages and it sounds great) but I need new headphones and possibly a DIY portable amp (I'm looking for a desktop DAC and an amp secondhand as I can't afford new) but back to the headphones...

 

I like tight punchy bass and am not a fan of boomy bass - I listen to a lot of progressive and 'regular' metal (Between the Buried and Me, Opeth, Ihsahn, Cynic, Gojira, Bloodbath) but I also enjoy the musical stylings of Steven Wilson, the Dire Straits and Pink Floyd.

 

My budget is ~$500 AUD for the headphones is this adequate to upgrade from the AD700s?

 

Cheers - I better go read some more info threads..


Yes--it should be enough to upgrade--based on a rough idea what you can get in Australia for that money.

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

post #26215 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


If you have to dump your RS2i, only the HE 500 is a clear step up.  The 500 is neutral with it all there.  You can read about the 400, 500 and even your Grado here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-hifiman-he-400-added-12-24-12

Thanks for the reply, but I've read those reviews too many times already redface.gif

 

I'm looking to hear some real life differences from people who have lived with both or at least done direct A-B comparisons.

While I agree with a lot of the things said in the "57 Flagships" about all the headphones I've heard listed there, I don't want to base a 700 euro decision on one man's opinions. rolleyes.gif

post #26216 of 29491

Hey, I've been looking to buy some music only headhphones (since i already have my gaming ones), and I've been looking into the V-Moda M80s, speacially since i listen to a lot of electronic music.
Anyways, is there any other headphone I might look, or should I just ge those? (my budget is pretty much $200)
Any help is appreciated.

post #26217 of 29491
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Originally Posted by neocero View Post

Hey, I've been looking to buy some music only headhphones (since i already have my gaming ones), and I've been looking into the V-Moda M80s, speacially since i listen to a lot of electronic music.
Anyways, is there any other headphone I might look, or should I just ge those? (my budget is pretty much $200)
Any help is appreciated.

 

There are others to look at, but first...

  • Budget of $200.
  • Where/how do you plan on using these can?
  • What are your isolation needs? Open or closed cans?
  • What kind of music do you listen to and what's the format/bit rate?
  • What source device will it be coming from and what amp, if any, will you be using?
  • Do you know what kind of signature you're trying to find?
post #26218 of 29491
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Originally Posted by joeywreck View Post

I made a thread about this earlier because I didn't notice this thread.. I'll just copy and paste what I typed here and maybe I'll get more responses.

 

I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50s.. I'm a little disappointed. I think I was expecting too much out of them. When I compare them with my Skullcandy Hesh 2.0, I'm not hearing much of a difference.. nothing sounds very new, and I can't tell if sometimes when I hear a song sounding better than the last time I've heard it if it's because of a placebo effect or if it's the headphones. I'm new to what people would call really good headphones.. I got this because I heard great things about it, but now I'm unsure whether I was just listening to a lot of loyal fans (the equivalent of Linux fans or Ron Paul fans)..

 

Again, The sound doesn't sound much different compared to my year-old Skullcandy Hesh 2.0.. I'm not noticing anything different. I'm considering going to the store later to try others on. What are your recommendations? Should I keep these and give them some time or get something else? I listen to all genres. I don't have anything more specific than my favorite being post-hardcore and hip hop.. but it ranges daily. I'm listening to Wiz Khalifa but an hour ago I was listening to a Live album of Celia Cruz (salsa).. I do like bass, but I don't want anything unneccessary like what Beats would give me.

 
Comfort is not my top priority, sound is. However, I would want at least something better than the Hesh that I've been using.. It was hard as a rock. It literally crushes your skull.. and also my ears would hurt after hours of use.
 
Seeing how I spent $200 already because of warranty (which I don't really need) and taxes and the fact that the store already charges too much for the headphones, I guess my price range is up to $200.
 
The top recommendation I've seen from lurking is ATH-M50s.. or maybe it used to be the most recommended. What are the others? Could I get at least some educated guess on what would be best for me from reading what I typed?

I now have the Sennheisers HD 380 PRO. I thought I had enough time to try them on at Guitar Center but I still feel like I'm trying it on. I'll let you know how it is. Not as much bass, which I liked on the ATH-M50s.. I cant say if it sounds better yet. I'll let you know.

 

Anyone compared these to the ATH-M50s? if so, what were your thoughts?


Edited by joeywreck - 3/18/13 at 3:17pm
post #26219 of 29491
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

 

There are others to look at, but first...

  • Budget of $200.
  • Where/how do you plan on using these can?
  • What are your isolation needs? Open or closed cans?
  • What kind of music do you listen to and what's the format/bit rate?
  • What source device will it be coming from and what amp, if any, will you be using?
  • Do you know what kind of signature you're trying to find?


First of all thanks for the reply...

Now let me try and answer those.

So, you got my budget.

I plan on using them mostly in my house, though I'd like something thats a bit portable and that I might also be able to use while going to college (by wich I ride a train and a subway, so lot of background noise there). So by that I guess I'd prefer closed cans, also I dont like how the open ones leek (I own an ATH AD700).

I listen to electronic music mostly, or at least I'd like some headphones for that type of music specifically. Mp3 format mostly, and bit rate varies, though I like to get my music in 320kbps. Though some are as low as 192.

Device would be an ipod if I'll be moving around, or my computer. I've got a Xi-Fi Titanium on it (wich i bought mostly for gaming, mind you).

And I don't really know what kind of signature I'm trying to find, I haven't really put much thought on it, but I guess for electronic music bass is good, but i don't want a headphone thats just pure bass. I wish i could help you a bit more here, but I honestly don't know.


Edited by neocero - 3/19/13 at 9:09am
post #26220 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


If you have to dump your RS2i, only the HE 500 is a clear step up.  The 500 is neutral with it all there.  You can read about the 400, 500 and even your Grado here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-hifiman-he-400-added-12-24-12

Thanks for the reply, but I've read those reviews too many times already redface.gif

 

I'm looking to hear some real life differences from people who have lived with both or at least done direct A-B comparisons.

While I agree with a lot of the things said in the "57 Flagships" about all the headphones I've heard listed there, I don't want to base a 700 euro decision on one man's opinions. rolleyes.gif


But you see, I happen to agree with that one man on most of his reviews of cans that I also have heard.  I own the the HE 500 and RS2i and have spent a bit of time listening to the HE 400, most recently at the Head-Fi meet in Austin held earlier this month.

 

The Grado and HE 400 are both colored cans.  The HE 400 has (net) forward and slightly funky mids.  To me the weakness of the Grado is its very bright treble.  Still--both are very good cans.

 

On the other hand the HE 500 is just about dead neutral with no real weaknesses.  Nothing is lacking.  Nothing sounds off.  There are other cans that also have it all and do certain things even better, but all of them cost significantly more than the HE 500.  The only negative things I can say about the HE 500 is that is fairly heavy and it needs a somewhat powerful amp to properly drive it.

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