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Originally Posted by danielghofrani View Post

thanks guys but you did not tell me which usb dac and amp I should buy to power the HE500 from my pc.

 

thanks in advance

Dan


I don't use a DAC.  You should go to the HE-500 appreciation thread or to the amp sections of the forum for the best advice on that.

 

There are a number of amps that sound good with the HE-500, like the EF-5 and others.  To some degree picking an amp is a matter of taste and preference.

post #25892 of 29494
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Originally Posted by BigCabDaddy View Post


So theoretically, I agree with you absolutely... 100%. But here's the thing: Unless you have a dedicated listening room that you can outfit exactly as you see best fit, you have a much better chance of BETTER creating such an ideal space via headphones and various ancillaries including crossfeed. That's how I've come to head audiophilia. At first I didn't get it but then somewhere along the way the light bulb went on. I can come much closer to creating my ideal in every respect in head-fi. And not only that, I can have it be fairly portable to boot!

 

 

 

Thats true, headphones are far simples, but still they will never achieve the soundstage of speakers. Even in a not so perfect setup. I mean, my speaker setup is far from perfect, speakers are not far enough from walls and corners, room is not in any way modified to be more suited acoustically, in fact left speaker is next to a big window, speakers stands are home made (30kg heavy mind you, but just welded steel, not "engineered for acoustic performance" in any way) etc. And still, just by simply making a triangle with the speakers, where you are approximately equally distanced from both speakers, creates a great feeling of soundstage and depth.  Even with some really cheap speakers.

 

True, you will get better detail, tonality, less destortion, better frequency balance, cleaner sound with headphones if you compare them with equally priced speakers up to about 700-800 dollars. But above that, speakers just chew headphones up and spit them out, in all aspects of sound.

 

 

By the way, what kind of crossfeed are you using? I've tried various plug ins for Foobar, but never go the settings to sound right.

post #25893 of 29494
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Originally Posted by LDonnie View Post

I hope some of you may have some solid advise for me. The Netherlands offer no shops for me to go to and audition a bunch of headphones. If I purchase one, it will be sight unseen.

 

Here is my wish list.

 

- Over-ear, closed design (portable is a plus).

- Good passive isolation.

- Detachable cables. I destroy them.

- I listen to diverse styles, though the lion's share lies in the rock/progressive/metal range. Tool comes to mind, A Perfect Circle, Meshuggah, but also The Script, Maroon 5, 30 Seconds to Mars, Beastie Boys... Etc.

- The sound I am looking for has tight, punchy bass. I like the bass to have depth as well, though attack has my preference. Also, I enjoy neutral mids and sparkling highs, if that makes any sense.

- The most important feature perhaps, is detail. I want to be able to easily distinguish various instruments. This is called a "soundstage"?

- Budget up to 300 euros.

 

I own an ATH-M50. I find it has deep bass, but is a bit too flabby. Also the mids are too recessed for my tastes. I like the highs.

 

So far, I have had my eyes set on the Beyerdynamic DT770's or the Ultrasone Pro 750's, but I am far from being completely sold on them.

 

Thanks in advance!
 


You're looking in the wrong place.  You should be looking at the Beyer DT 880 (+/- Pro) 250 Ohms or higher.

post #25894 of 29494
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Originally Posted by gamingdave View Post

I am looking for advice concerning a new purchase of some closed back headphones. The primary use will be in an office environment during the day, but they will also be used for travelling and possibly some late night gaming or film watching. I currently own a pair of Sennheiser HD 595 which are my current late night headphones and some Etymotic HF2 which I use out and about. I like both of them but the Senns are obviously useless in any sort of noisy environment and a bit shy on bass (I compensate for this with my AV amp when watching films or gaming), and the HF2s can get a little uncomfortable when used for long periods.

 

I listen to a range of music including country, rock (all sorts), blues, soul, funk, rap, hip-hop and drum and bass with a bit of classical. I don’t listen to jazz or many female vocalists (with the exception of vintage soul like Motown and Stax) and don’t really listen to any pop and no modern R&B (to me R&B is Dr. Feelgood, Tom Jones and Otis Redding). Some listening is done via high quality Spotify but a great deal is from my own rips which are all either 320kps MP3 or FLAC with the odd high resolution download. At work my source will be my laptop, but I am planning on buying a FiiO E17 or E07k to use as an external DAC and amp. Depending how they compare to my current Sennheisers I will also possibly use them at home for films and games.

 

I’ll say now I do love my bass, but only in a controlled way. In my home cinema setup I have a 500W Monolith+ sub, but it is well balanced in the system and not used to be a dominate the overall sound, rather just to add really well controlled low frequencies with plenty of punch. I tend to like listening to music as intended but when listening on the move I have been known to slightly boost bass and treble to suit and give a bit more of a “fun” sound. I don’t want bass for the sake of it though and wouldn’t want it to either dominate to the detriment of other frequencies or come at a cost (too boomy or too slow). One thing I do appreciate is a decent soundstage.

 

Having spent the last couple of weeks looking at a lot of reviews online and reading a lot on here I have narrowed it down to a few choices and would really appreciate any input. Here is my list with a summary from what I can gleam on here, and UK prices.

 

Sennheiser HD 25-1 II - £140 – completely rebuildable and would appear to have a fun sound with a punchy bass. Most portable of my shortlist, but on ear and with a small soundstage so not great for some of my genres or all day listening.

 

Audio-Technica ATH-M50S - £125 – very well regarded and frequently recommended. A bigger soundstage than the Sennheiser with a good all round sound but can be uncomfortable for all day listening.

 

AKG K 550 - £150 – I think these look superb, but they are large so the least portable (but do rotate so are transportable). Huge soundstage and super comfy but a solid seal is really important, I have a relatively large head so hope they would fit well. A very accurate sound though some report having issues with a treble spike and a possibly weak bass (though reposts vary on this).

 

Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro-80 - £130 – soundstage second only to the AKGs but still very good. Comfortable for long session, though can get hot. Mids are a bit recessed and require a long burn in but have a more balanced sound once done.

 

Price wise there is very little in it, though some came out at a considerably higher cost originally, with a lot of the (very good) reviews for the AKGs being written when they cost nearly twice as much. My gut is leaning me away from the Sennheiser as I do want them to be comfortable for all day listening and I do want a decent soundstage. Out of the remaining 3 the AKG and Beyeres are currently highest in my list.

 

A few direct questions…

 

When people talk about the AKGs lacking bass (even after getting a good seal) is this something that can be compensated for at all in EQ? Is it just that they are well balanced when run without any EQ, and that even with a slight boost from an amp or software are they still lacking energy or depth?

 

Compared to the Beyers is the soundstage of the AKGs that much bigger and are they cleaner and more accurate generally? Are they that much more “fun”?

 

I don’t intend to blast my ears all day, but sometimes I do like to pump up the volume. How do these all fair when driven harder?

 

If I am going to be using an amp (portable one at that) what are the advantages (and disadvantages) to the 250ohm Beyers over the 80ohms?

 

Generally speaking, how easy/hard is it to compensate for a particular headphones weaknesses at certain frequencies with a bit of EQ?

 

Over the last few days I keep flitting between the AKGs and Beyers. I’m sure both will sound great but would really appreciate any input into my comparisons. Obviously there are higher quality phones available, but my budget is set at this time and so comments relative to what they will cost me, not what the original retail price are what I am after.

 

Cheers

 

Dave


I don't see how you would like the DT 770 with its recessed mids.  They are also very large.

 

I also don't understand how someone can say that K 550 with a good seal lacks bass--unless their baseline is wayyy above neutral.  I haven't heard them, but the K 551 is a portable version of the K 550.

post #25895 of 29494

Okay, just gonna list off stuff now.

 

Budget: $200 abs. max.

Currently looking at: Shure SRH840, Fostex T50RP w/ 840 pads, Utrasone HFI-780.

 

     I like the look of all of these headphones, but the T50RP don't look too durable/portable which isn't a huge deal. If I got the T50RP I would for s(h)ure get the 840 pads for them and maybe do a bit of modding. I am concerned about the cable, I see it is detachable but has a 1/4" jack and no 3.5mm adapter. How hard would that be to mod? I don't like the look of any of the adapters I could find. I think I would keep the SRH 840 stock. The Ultrasone I am a bit confused with, do they have a detachable cable? what is the difference between the HFI-780 and 580? On amazon the 580 is more expensive and has the 50mm drivers and the 780 has 40mm. The 580 is also $40 more. What is up with that?

 

I'm not too charmed with the Shures, I think I would have more fun modding the T50RP for that money but i am worried about the cable. The Ultrasones are sorta in the middle.

post #25896 of 29494
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Originally Posted by unpimpauto View Post

Okay, just gonna list off stuff now.

 

Budget: $200 abs. max.

Currently looking at: Shure SRH840, Fostex T50RP w/ 840 pads, Utrasone HFI-780.

 

     I like the look of all of these headphones, but the T50RP don't look too durable/portable which isn't a huge deal. If I got the T50RP I would for s(h)ure get the 840 pads for them and maybe do a bit of modding. I am concerned about the cable, I see it is detachable but has a 1/4" jack and no 3.5mm adapter. How hard would that be to mod? I don't like the look of any of the adapters I could find. I think I would keep the SRH 840 stock. The Ultrasone I am a bit confused with, do they have a detachable cable? what is the difference between the HFI-780 and 580? On amazon the 580 is more expensive and has the 50mm drivers and the 780 has 40mm. The 580 is also $40 more. What is up with that?

 

I'm not too charmed with the Shures, I think I would have more fun modding the T50RP for that money but i am worried about the cable. The Ultrasones are sorta in the middle.


The 580 is a basshead can.  Although the 780 has significant bass, it is not.

 

The 780's cable is fixed.  You have to go up to the Pro 750 (the brother of the 780) to get a detachable cable.

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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

MDR 1R or Philips Fidelio L1 or M80s or UE6000 (dont want the senn momentum or m100)

 

Please Help, i need to choose quickly.

My favorite genres include: R&B, small amount of rap, jrock/pop, a little classical.

I will be using these on the train and bus, so portability and isolation are priorities.

Im just wondering if i should save up for the MDR 1R or settle for the Fidelio L1.  It doesn't really seem like the others even have a chance, but whatever.

 

Decision must be made within 2 days and i have $250.

 

Thanks in Advance!

 

Have not heard the Fidelio L1, so I can't comment on that one at all.

 

I was trying to decide on a fun set of cans a couple of weeks ago and was choosing between the Momentum, 1R, M80, and UE6000. I was looking at the K550 as well, but you didn't ask about that one. There were things I liked and didn't like about all of them. I'll be very quick on my pros and cons. Keep in mind these are my impressions and all of it is very subjective, so you'll need to form your own opinion. I'm just giving you my opinion.

 

Momentum:

  • Pros - sound signature, build quality, efficiency
  • Cons - comfort, price

MDR-1R

  • Pros - sound signature (close to the same signature as the Momentum), comfort, efficiency
  • Cons - build quality

M80

  • Pros - build quality, efficiency, price
  • Cons - sound signature (it was fine, just not what I was looking for), aesthetics, comfort

UE6000

  • Pros - efficiency, comfort, price
  • Cons - sound signature, build quality, aesthetics

 

Ultimately, I decided on the MDR-1R. It's more comfortable than everything else I tried and it sounds amazing even unamped. They seem more efficient which is nice for the portability aspects. I've been with them for almost 2 weeks now and I'm very happy with my decision so far. Check out this comparison as well.

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The 580 is a basshead can.  Although the 780 has significant bass, it is not.

 

The 780's cable is fixed.  You have to go up to the Pro 750 (the brother of the 780) to get a detachable cable.

Or down to PRO 550? How do the DJ1 Pros Compare? Or how much would it cost and how hard is it to rewire for a detachable cable?

post #25899 of 29494
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Originally Posted by lestatdi View Post

Hi, im from Brazil and new in the world of good headphones.

Actually, i have some low end ekips: ATH-M50, HD280Pro, etc... and im looking for better cans.

I listen to gothic, heavy, doom and symphonic metal or hip-hop, house and trance sometimes.

 

I read a lot in the forum and finished with theses options:

 

- Sennheiser Momentum

- V-Moda M100

- Yamaha Pro 500 (probably the chosen one)

- ATH-A900X

- Sony MDR-1R
 

My needs: I rly don't wanna use an amp, but if its necessary, np at all.

I prefer closed cans and im little basshead (just a little)(i had a Sennheiser HD598, loved but sold because the bass was weak to me)

I love musical fidelity, thats y i didnt even think about colored cans like beats pro.

 

Wich headphone would u pickup from the list above? Is there any other option on the market?

Money isnt rly a problem but i dont wanna spent all in a fullsize because i wanna buy some IEM too...

Ahh, im going to MIAMI... Is there any store with nice options of headphones to listen to?

 

Thanks to all opinions!


Anyone, please?

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Hi everybody! Which closed headphones would you highly recommend that have the best of MTPC(highs, mids) and V-Moda LP2(bass)?

I just got the V-Moda LP2 and I have to say that the bass is simply amazing, ground shaking, cinema like, exactly what I was searching for. On the other hand I have the MTPC where I just love the highs and the mids and the small details that they provide, they are simply amazing in that area. Unfortunately the LP2 fails a bit in Highs, Mids are so so but not as in the Copper Pro, The Coppers have a nice tight bass but it's far away from what the LP2 delivers. I know I shouldn't compare closed vs in-ear but still I'm doing it so you can get an idea of what I want. So, I guess I am searching for a closed headphones that can provide best of both worlds ? What currently is in my mind is something like V-Moda M-100 and Ultrasone pro-900. I’m just afraid that the M-100 wouldn’t have the same thumping bass effect as the LP2. About Ultrasone, I’m kind of clueless but I read really good reviews? And if by any chance you think that any In-ear monitors can have the same bass as LP2, please share their name ! :)

 

p.s.

Just one last small question....would any portable AMP actually improve any aspect of the LP2 sound, I am using sony mp3 player NWZ-A865?


Edited by gen66 - 3/11/13 at 3:34pm
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I think now i have my mind fairly set on some ATH-A900X's, but now I'm wondering if it's worth The 70 buck jump from the 700X's. I can afford it with the 900's, but if i get the 700's i can easilly grab the FiiO E6 and L9, but i saw somewhere that with Audio Technicas, amps aren't needed.
post #25902 of 29494
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


The 580 is a basshead can.  Although the 780 has significant bass, it is not.

 

The 780's cable is fixed.  You have to go up to the Pro 750 (the brother of the 780) to get a detachable cable.

Or down to PRO 550? How do the DJ1 Pros Compare? Or how much would it cost and how hard is it to rewire for a detachable cable?


The 550 is also a basshead can.  I have not heard the DJ1.

post #25903 of 29494
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Originally Posted by BiggerHead View Post

I'm kind of leaning back toward the koss.  I want to like the logitechs.   I like the idea of the built in amp and big enough stock pads and noise cancellation even if not amazing.  Also I did find where Tyll said exactly that the bass can "confuse" the mids. hmm maybe that's where I subconsciously got that word from anyway. That's a little different than the sports car analogy because still at some quality point I might be comparing to mids on cheaper stuff that are more confused anyway even without the bass interference. 

 

Wish I could try them out.  The UE6000 are not even available locally for mail order.  Maybe they are too new.  Logitech is everywhere.

 

hahah... i think you are reading too much into it, but yea, for sure go try them out.

 

If you have a Best Buy nearby, that is where I heard the UE6000. You might also be able to find them at Apple stores, but I would just call your local Best Buy. They should definitely have them. These aren't that new, been out since end of 2012 I believe, so you should def be able to find em somewhere.

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I currently have the Denon D2000's and a 1713 receiver...looking to upgrade and I hate sibilance.  Since I live in Canada my options are very limited since many sets are not avaliable, not avaliable from retailers with good return/exchange policies, ridiculously over priced.  I want something with a real warranty, manufacturers only offering 1 year warranties is insulting.  Will only order from Canadian retailers for warranty reasons and I do not want to pay duty.

 

I listen to pretty much everything except for rap and country, but I mainly listen to rock, heavy metal, electronica/dance (lots of A State of Trance), techno, and classical (game and movie soundtracks usually).  I like the bass on the Denon D200's but I would prefer to have accuracy.  

 

These have tickled my fancy

 

Sony MD1-R (215$ from ShopRBC)

+From what I have read these are very balanced and good for all types of music

?These seem like more of a side grade vs. the D2000's

-1 year Warranty from Sony

-No Canadian retailers with good return+exchange policies sell these

 

Sennheiser Momentum (350$ From Futureshop)

+Can purchase Futureshop's warranty

+Reviews from both users and pro's indicate that these are great

+2 Year Warranty

?Side grade

-I've read many threads on here and reviews and I like the idea of the Sony's more

-Don't think they are worth twice as much as the Sony's

 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 600ohms (600$)

+5 Year Warranty

-Was reading about the T90's (530$ from AV shop.ca) and was put off Zombie's review and a few others mentioning the sibilance

-Only avaliable from Amazon.ca selelrs

 

Sennheiser HD 650's (530$)

+I find Sennheiser's very comfy+

+These get good reviews

+like the sound of the PC 360's I am currently using, maybe more than the Denon D2000's

+can be purchased from places like Amazon

 

Sony 7520 (370$)

Need to research these more

-1 Year warranty

 

AKG K550

+Reviews give the impression that these are awesome

-1 year warranty


Edited by MenacingTuba - 3/11/13 at 6:31pm
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I am new to cans and my first purchase was the v moda lp crossfade had them for about 2 months, I think im ready for an upgrade. I really like that they have very nice bass just wish the mids wouldn't get mixed in with the bass and wish the highs were slightly more sparkly... I also ordred a pair of klipsch reference one last week. they have good bass but the highs are a little hot, they are going back... any advice would be appreciated...don't wanna keep spending money budget is around 100.00.

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