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Also, I am actually really really curious why people hate so hard on the Beats saying they are overpriced bass-monsters, but say the M100 is a great value when the M100s are the same $300 for really bass-heavy sound. I legit sat down with the Beats Studio & the M100 for 8 hours straight comparing them and objectively difference seemed very small to me. It didn't sound terrible or worse, just different. After 2 months of heavy listening to the M100, I feel like I can finally appreciate the "sonic upgrade" of the M100, but man, I was definitely expecting a more night vs day type difference from the way people talk.

 

My DJ/producer musician friend says that after listening to something more studio-quality & treble-focused like the AKG K550 & Q701, all bass-emphasized headphones sound muddy to him. After he tried my M100, he said good isolation & bass, but he kinda of threw the M100 into the same category as the Beats not as an insult, but just to describe the bass-heavy nature. He also seemed to insinuate that if you wanted to drop $300 on bass, the Beats are fine (lol which would be blasphemy on these forums) as they could out-bass any other headphones & dubwubwub bass-out so hard that the cables rattle hahah (he said that positively but I'm sure people here would say bad microphonics lol). Of course, he's def treble-head & audiophile as he raves about soundstage, clarity, precision, the sparkles & detail of treble, saying the detail there is what makes/breaks a song. Just curious if anyone could enlighten me on this issue.

 

Do I have to train my ear or something to really tell the difference? I mean I can immediately tell when a song isn't at least 320kbps, but w/ all the different headphones I tried I can't hear all these coolio audiophile sonic differences that people throw out there :(


Edited by money4me247 - 2/27/13 at 1:15am
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Perhaps a Logitech UE6000? If I couldn't afford the M-100, I would say the UE6000 is a good headphone for the price and compares similarly to the M-100.

thanks for the advice! I am a bit iffy on active NC headphones though, b/c I already have the ANC-7 which sound solid when NC is turned on, but has occasional stutter/hissing.

 

I guess I am looking for specifically highly-regarded closed, portable basshead phones that I can try out & see. Sounds like the hifi-580, the pro700mk2, ultrasone pro 900 are legit, so i can looking for similar options or opinions/comparisons on these.

 

 

Money is actually not an issue, I can go from $100-$400 without a problem, but I guess I am iffy b/c I personally cannot hear the sonic upgrade on the more expensive headphones. I feel like the changes are a lot more subtle than I expected.

That's the thing about the UE6000, it's highly regarded with the ANC off, and it still meets the criteria you stated earlier. :)

 

Ultrasone's tend to be too bright for me, especially very much so for the PRO900 (I still think it's the brightest and harshest headphone I have ever touched; I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes). The Pro 700 MKII is pretty much the exact opposite, dark, from what I've read. The HFI-580 is supposedly a similar headphone to the ATH-M50 based on the research I did here while searching for my first "hi-fi" headphone (it doesn't have a removable cable though).


Edited by miceblue - 2/27/13 at 1:24am
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That's the thing about the UE6000, it's highly regarded with the ANC off, and it still meets the criteria you stated earlier. :)

 

Ultrasone's tend to be too bright for me, especially very much so for the PRO900 (I still think it's the brightest and harshest headphone I have ever touched; I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes). The Pro 700 MKII is pretty much the exact opposite, dark, from what I've read. The HFI-580 is supposedly a similar headphone to the ATH-M50 based on the research I did here while searching for my first "hi-fi" headphone (it doesn't have a removable cable though).

cool, i'll def look into that. has anyone tried the M-Audio Studiophile Q40 or the Pioneer HDJ-2000? hahaha I rmb reading somewhere that Val (the ceo of vmoda) prefers the pioneers after his own stuff so the sound signature has to be similar right? lol

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cool, i'll def look into that. has anyone tried the M-Audio Studiophile Q40 or the Pioneer HDJ-2000? hahaha I rmb reading somewhere that Val (the ceo of vmoda) prefers the pioneers after his own stuff so the sound signature has to be similar right? lol

I came to the M100's from the Q40s and they are a very, very good headphone for the price. I would be putting my money back into a pair of them if I had to sell the M100's.

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Hy guys I posted yesterday and was recommended quite a few cans, the ath m50 in particular seemed to be a popular choice. However it seems its agreed that the mids are recessed . I noticed a cheap pair at the beginning of the thread the monoprice 8323. Thoughts? Are they comfortable? Should I stop being cheap and spring for a better pair lol. These are for rock music by the way and they need to be closed and I don't use an amp and mostly listen to mp3s on my iPod
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And I want an even sound, as the song is supposed to sound.how it was originally mixed and mastered. Comfort is important too
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Hi guys,

 I am pulling the trigger on a pair of dt 770's(250ohm) and a ODAC mainly will be used for rap hip/hop electronic, techno and some rock please tell me if i am doing it wrong?. My budget is 400$ if maxed it would be 420$.. will be getting an amp for them later, mainly i have heard they have not that sharp of highs which i like i like kind of rolled off highs with good amount of tight bass. PLEASE HELP A NOOB OUT! 

 

Also had interest in the M100 aswell. rolleyes.gif

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And I want an even sound, as the song is supposed to sound.how it was originally mixed and mastered. Comfort is important too


Yes, you should stop being so cheap, if your sound signature goal is as you stated.  The Monoprice full sized can will give you a good frequency response range, especially for its price.  However, the sound that is presented is very colored and just...well it's just off what it should be.

 

Absent a close out sale (and ignoring amping issues) about $50 is the bare minimum you can spend and get an entry level quality can that has anything approaching a balanced, although probably not neutral, sound.  Going to $75 or $100 gives you choices and increased quality.

post #25464 of 29491
So what do you recommend for balanced sound for rock and comfort in that price range?
post #25465 of 29491

Have you heard planar magnetics (Audez'e, HiFiMan, Mad Dogs)?  What a jump in sound - and a Schiit Magni powers them well.

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Also, I am actually really really curious why people hate so hard on the Beats saying they are overpriced bass-monsters, but say the M100 is a great value when the M100s are the same $300 for really bass-heavy sound. I legit sat down with the Beats Studio & the M100 for 8 hours straight comparing them and objectively difference seemed very small to me. It didn't sound terrible or worse, just different. After 2 months of heavy listening to the M100, I feel like I can finally appreciate the "sonic upgrade" of the M100, but man, I was definitely expecting a more night vs day type difference from the way people talk.

 

My DJ/producer musician friend says that after listening to something more studio-quality & treble-focused like the AKG K550 & Q701, all bass-emphasized headphones sound muddy to him. After he tried my M100, he said good isolation & bass, but he kinda of threw the M100 into the same category as the Beats not as an insult, but just to describe the bass-heavy nature. He also seemed to insinuate that if you wanted to drop $300 on bass, the Beats are fine (lol which would be blasphemy on these forums) as they could out-bass any other headphones & dubwubwub bass-out so hard that the cables rattle hahah (he said that positively but I'm sure people here would say bad microphonics lol). Of course, he's def treble-head & audiophile as he raves about soundstage, clarity, precision, the sparkles & detail of treble, saying the detail there is what makes/breaks a song. Just curious if anyone could enlighten me on this issue.

 

Do I have to train my ear or something to really tell the difference? I mean I can immediately tell when a song isn't at least 320kbps, but w/ all the different headphones I tried I can't hear all these coolio audiophile sonic differences that people throw out there :(

Its all relative to the kind of music you listen too...I cannot stand flat cans for EDM, half the song is missing somewhere. Where as if you listened to something that was recorded with vocals...and real instruments then yes flat cans would be ideal...

post #25467 of 29491

I cant stand my HD 448's. They have a balanced response with good mids but no bass...and I just can't stand them for EDM. You see what im getting at?

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So what do you recommend for balanced sound for rock and comfort in that price range?


In which price range?  Will you be using an amp?

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I cant stand my HD 448's. They have a balanced response with good mids but no bass...and I just can't stand them for EDM. You see what im getting at?


There is not such thing as a balanced can with no bass--unless it also has no treble.  In such case it's just bad--and hopefully very cheap.

post #25470 of 29491

 Hi everyone, I'm here askin if there are better full-sized headphones than Denon D600?

I'll use that headphones when traveling, so isolation and portability are needed.

Budget: $600  Must be comfortable to wear btw.

Thanks

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