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post #25156 of 29494
2/21/13 at 11:23pm

don't yell at me if this isn't where I should post something like this, but I recently read a super interesting article about the emerging headphone industry and I was just wondering what more experienced headphone enthusiasts thought about this:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/technology/personaltech/some-premium-headphones-amplify-celebrities-over-sound.html?pagewanted=all

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post #25157 of 29494
2/21/13 at 11:49pm

I actually think this is deserving of its own thread. It is rather interesting to read I just glanced over it but it seems like an interesting read

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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

don't yell at me if this isn't where I should post something like this, but I recently read a super interesting article about the emerging headphone industry and I was just wondering what more experienced headphone enthusiasts thought about this:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/technology/personaltech/some-premium-headphones-amplify-celebrities-over-sound.html?pagewanted=all

post #25158 of 29494
2/22/13 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

don't yell at me if this isn't where I should post something like this, but I recently read a super interesting article about the emerging headphone industry and I was just wondering what more experienced headphone enthusiasts thought about this:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/technology/personaltech/some-premium-headphones-amplify-celebrities-over-sound.html?pagewanted=all


OK--in a quiet voice: this is OT.  While I'm glad that it was informative to you, there's nothing (or at least very, very little) in that article that's new or informative to most all the folks on a headphone site and forum for more than just a fast pass.


Edited by KG Jag - 2/22/13 at 12:37am
post #25159 of 29494
2/22/13 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

At the current time, I have no amp but would be open to suggestions for a decent amp or DAC (in that case my budget would be about $250 total.  I'll be using my computer, never leaving the house.

 

Format is generally lossless, but some mp3.  Music only.

 

As far as sound signature, As long as they aren't too bass heavy I'll be happy.  

 

Thanks!

post #25160 of 29494
2/22/13 at 1:40am
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATHM50S-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B004ZG9TMA

Will this headphone drop to $99 again....I want to kick myself..I miss this deal during black friday.
I also miss the deal of fiio e10 and e17....
Thank you
post #25161 of 29494
2/22/13 at 1:42am
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

At the current time, I have no amp but would be open to suggestions for a decent amp or DAC (in that case my budget would be about $250 total.  I'll be using my computer, never leaving the house.

 

Format is generally lossless, but some mp3.  Music only.

 

As far as sound signature, As long as they aren't too bass heavy I'll be happy.  

 

Thanks!


For up to $150 and not needing an amp to complement your Grados, you should consider the KRK KNS 8400, Audio Technica ATH-A700X and the open Audio Technica ATH-AD700.

post #25162 of 29494
2/22/13 at 1:45am
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http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATHM50S-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B004ZG9TMA

Will this headphone drop to $99 again....I want to kick myself..I miss this deal during black friday.
I also miss the deal of fiio e10 and e17....
Thank you


They seem to drop to within about $10 of that price from time to time.  Keep an eye on the Deals 2 thread.

post #25163 of 29494
2/22/13 at 3:47am
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Originally Posted by eucariote View Post

HE500 all the way.  I've owned or heard all the headphones on your list except for Grado ps500 and HE500 are a league above, the other ones aren't even close.  O2 is a capable little amp, it'll do great.
Thank You very much for your time! I think I know you are correct in picking the he-500. The he-400 or one of the Grados interest me as th
post #25164 of 29494
2/22/13 at 8:16am
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Thank You very much for your time! I think I know you are correct in picking the he-500. The he-400 or one of the Grados interest me as though for when I might want to travel lighter without the amp?
post #25165 of 29494
2/22/13 at 8:48am

 

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Yes.  The airiest closed-back can I know is the Ortofon O-One.  Its bass level is just a little higher than that of the AD700, which you are well familiar with.

 

Keep in mind I'm learning here. The way I read that is that the bass still doesn't even get back to neutral on those since it's sooo recessed on the AD700. Would you consider the O-One to be a neutral headphone? I think I'm starting to get some of this terminology down and I think I'm looking for a neutral closed-back headphone that has a relatively large soundstage... I think.

I would consider the Ortofon O-One to be a natural sounding headphone, in the sense that it conveys the sound of a symphonic performance in a concert hall. Please see my review of the Ortofon O-One for a more detailed discussion: http://www.head-fi.org/products/ortofon-o-one-headphones-black/reviews/6819. See also these threads: http://www.head-fi.org/t/504815/review-ortofon-o-one-updated-840-m50-vs-o-one-comparison and http://www.head-fi.org/t/606219/closed-headphones-for-classical-orchestras.  I am attaching a frequency response graph for four headphones that are considered good for classical music listening.  Three of them (including the much less expensive Beyerdynamic DT-235, which I own, and the AKG K271 MkII, which I do not own) are closed; the fourth one is the AD700, which you are familiar with.  Note how they behave in the low frequencies: http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2661&graphID[]=1773&graphID[]=2901&graphID[]=213.  In contrast, the Sennheiser HD-518, for example, which is about the same price as the AD700, has much more emphasized bass.  To me, this makes for an unnatural emphasis on, say, cello and double bass on what is otherwise a very nice presentation, e.g, to remain in the classical music arena, it is a joy to listen to male voices in some operas with the HD-518.
 


Edited by MarcoGV - 2/22/13 at 8:51am
post #25166 of 29494
2/22/13 at 9:13am
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For up to $150 and not needing an amp to complement your Grados, you should consider the KRK KNS 8400, Audio Technica ATH-A700X and the open Audio Technica ATH-AD700.

Thanks again!
post #25167 of 29494
2/22/13 at 9:22am

Here goes:

: < Im sort of done with the overprice-paying for fashion headphones. (Although I can't deny I prefer a pair to look good) 

Im new to having good sound when on the go. AND IT IS WONDERFUL. AKA... Im an Audiophile Noob. With anything but Records Im pretty much "Derp this sounds awesome I like this" .__. Forgive me!

 

Im currently using a pair of wesc's my grandma got me after my old pair broke.

 

I recently looked at Monster Diesel headphones, and Im -well- aware that is paying for brand, and I wouldn't be surprised if I could get a headphone of similar quality for less, So I came to post here!

Im looking for a pair of on-ear or over-ear, preferably over-ear, as I will be using these for: car trips when I'm not in charge of the radio/I'm not in a car with good sound, airplane rides, working on art projects out of home... I would like the quality to be better or equal to those monster diesels (Yes I know monster headphones and the like are frowned upon by most audiophiles, and I agree. However it is the only "sound point" I can offer as I live in a junky small town.) 

When listening to music at home I use my record player and run it through a maranz set-up, So my knowledge of music is all based in records/upkeep of my player and maranz. 

My music taste is 60s-80s, with some stuff like Jim Noir thrown in. Vocals and guitar are big for me.

Price range limit is 350$s 

Can't be to huge, I'm open to big cans, but damnit, if I feel like they are trying to eat my head or draw way to much attention to me I don't want to wear em.

At least -sort- of stylish.

Fashion points Im fond of are generally more of an "old school" feel. AKG Q 701s for example have a design I LOVE but, they are so massive!

 

Thank you in advance! :D

 

TL;DR:

Price range: 300 $

Semi Fashionable, Over Ear Preffered, Can size not overly obtrusive.

Quality better or equal to monster diesels

Portable in car/on plane, in art studio use.


Edited by kabikaz - 2/22/13 at 9:30am
post #25168 of 29494
2/22/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by kabikaz View Post

Here goes:

: < Im sort of done with the overprice-paying for fashion headphones. (Although I can't deny I prefer a pair to look good) 

Im new to having good sound when on the go. AND IT IS WONDERFUL. AKA... Im an Audiophile Noob. With anything but Records Im pretty much "Derp this sounds awesome I like this" .__. Forgive me!

 

Im currently using a pair of wesc's my grandma got me after my old pair broke.

 

I recently looked at Monster Diesel headphones, and Im -well- aware that is paying for brand, and I wouldn't be surprised if I could get a headphone of similar quality for less, So I came to post here!

Im looking for a pair of on-ear or over-ear, preferably over-ear, as I will be using these for: car trips when I'm not in charge of the radio/I'm not in a car with good sound, airplane rides, working on art projects out of home... I would like the quality to be better or equal to those monster diesels (Yes I know monster headphones and the like are frowned upon by most audiophiles, and I agree. However it is the only "sound point" I can offer as I live in a junky small town.) 

When listening to music at home I use my record player and run it through a maranz set-up, So my knowledge of music is all based in records/upkeep of my player and maranz. 

My music taste is 60s-80s, with some stuff like Jim Noir thrown in. Vocals and guitar are big for me.

Price range limit is 350$s 

Can't be to huge, I'm open to big cans, but damnit, if I feel like they are trying to eat my head or draw way to much attention to me I don't want to wear em.

At least -sort- of stylish.

Fashion points Im fond of are generally more of an "old school" feel. AKG Q 701s for example have a design I LOVE but, they are so massive!

 

Thank you in advance! :D

 

TL;DR:

Price range: 300 $

Semi Fashionable, Over Ear Preffered, Can size not overly obtrusive.

Quality better or equal to monster diesels

Portable in car/on plane, in art studio use.

Here are some portable over-ear lifestyle headphones options that are much better than Monster Diesel

1.) V-moda Crossfade M100 ($300-$310): very highly rated SQ

2.) Sennheiser Momentum ($350): also very highly rated SQ

3.) Sony MDR-1R ($300): heard these are extremely comfortable

->AKG K500 ($240) or AKG K551 ($330): these might be too big for true portable use, so probably not for you

 

From my own personal extensive research, #1-3 offer the best sound quality at the $300 price range & would blow away the Monster Diesel on a strictly sound quality comparison. For the Monster Diesel, you are paying more for the looks than the sound. There are probably other solid options in different price ranges, but these are the best "lifestyle" fashion headphones you can get at $300ish. M100 & MDR-1R can fold up. M100 & Momentum are made w/ very nice non-plastic materials. MDR-1R is supposed to be super comfy. The differences in SQ between the M100, Momentum, and MDR-1R would probably be hard to hear for a newbie audiophile, so if one design grabs your attention, I would say go for that one.


Edited by money4me247 - 2/22/13 at 10:12am
post #25169 of 29494
2/22/13 at 10:12am
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


They seem to drop to within about $10 of that price from time to time.  Keep an eye on the Deals 2 thread.

Thank you for your remind again. Actually, except Fiio, any good portable headphone DAC amplifers like E10, E7, around $100?

post #25170 of 29494
2/22/13 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by KG Jag 
Here's the thing: if you like the sound signature of the DT 770 & 990, your right on the border of being a basshead lite.  Cans that are in that neighborhood are not airy (even relatively--when compared to neutral-ish and even near neutral-ish cans).  They are not good all-arounders--most have recessed mids and even those that don't have too much bass emphasis (perhaps another way to say recess mids & treble relative to bass) to be good with many/most genres. Bottom line--you need to pick on which side of the divide you want to be.  With the Denons discontinued, there's really not much, if any, middle ground.

Ok. I can live with that. In that case, I believe I'm looking for closed-back headphones that are neutral and airy. Is that a better way to put it?

So yeah. I'm looking for a neutral sounding, relatively airy, closed-back headphone that's following most of my original guidelines. Thoughts?
Edited by roguegeek - 2/22/13 at 10:45am
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