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post #24031 of 29491

Hey gents,

 

I'm looking for some advice. I'm looking for some closed headphones for about $300 to maybe $350.

I want them to be very comfortable for extended listening sessions, portability is definitely a plus, and I would prefer if they didn't leak too much.

 

Sound-wise I want something that is non-fatiguing, and fun to listen to. I listen to a lot of punk rock, classic rock, alternative (alot of rock in general), and a little hip-hop.

I currently own M80s and Pro900's, but I find them both pretty uncomfortable and the 900's are a bit harsh to my ears. I'll be pairing these with my Ipod Classic and Ibasso D2+, but I'll probably be investing in the Schiit Modi and Magni soon, or possible a Zo2.

 

I've been looking into the Sony mdr-1r's, Vmoda M100s, or maybe the Maddogs. Any suggestions would be great, thanks!

post #24032 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

Are you OK with open cans (they leak sound)?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

What music genres do you plan run through these cans?

 

Yeah, these are gonna be desk duty phones, so open is fine. These are pretty open as far as I know...

 

It's kind of hard to describe, I just love how good the bass and midrange is on these, but the 448's are a lot more clear. I can handle a bit of loss in the high end, but the last thing I want is "all-lows and highs, grind your ears to death" you get from skullcandy kit now.

 

I use pretty much all MP3s, at an absolute minimum of 192kbit/sec, most of it is MP3 V0. I don't use flac.

 

I listen to a lot of electronic music

post #24033 of 29491

Hi. I'm looking for a pair of headphones that are open and are suited for mostly rock and jazz. I tried the sr80i for a few months and absolutely hated it.. they were really harsh on my ears and I could not stand how uncomfortable they were. I listen to music like Tool, Led Zeppelin, some Dream Theater and lots of smooth jazz. Most of my favourite parts of the music I listen to is the drumming but I do not like too much bass. I also prefer a flat EQ and prefer not to mess with the EQ. I've been looking around and I like the look of the HD 598. Can I have your thoughts on it? I like a laid back sound signature. Grado has too much attack for me. I have a budget of $300-$500. Will be sourcing them off an Asus Essence STX. Thank you

post #24034 of 29491
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Originally Posted by bzdsftw View Post

Hi. I'm looking for a pair of headphones that are open and are suited for mostly rock and jazz. I tried the sr80i for a few months and absolutely hated it.. they were really harsh on my ears and I could not stand how uncomfortable they were. I listen to music like Tool, Led Zeppelin, some Dream Theater and lots of smooth jazz. Most of my favourite parts of the music I listen to is the drumming but I do not like too much bass. I also prefer a flat EQ and prefer not to mess with the EQ. I've been looking around and I like the look of the HD 598. Can I have your thoughts on it? I like a laid back sound signature. Grado has too much attack for me. I have a budget of $300-$500. Will be sourcing them off an Asus Essence STX. Thank you

go for the hd 600 if your looking for neutrality.
post #24035 of 29491
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Originally Posted by bzdsftw View Post

Hi. I'm looking for a pair of headphones that are open and are suited for mostly rock and jazz. I tried the sr80i for a few months and absolutely hated it.. they were really harsh on my ears and I could not stand how uncomfortable they were. I listen to music like Tool, Led Zeppelin, some Dream Theater and lots of smooth jazz. Most of my favourite parts of the music I listen to is the drumming but I do not like too much bass. I also prefer a flat EQ and prefer not to mess with the EQ. I've been looking around and I like the look of the HD 598. Can I have your thoughts on it? I like a laid back sound signature. Grado has too much attack for me. I have a budget of $300-$500. Will be sourcing them off an Asus Essence STX. Thank you


The Beyer DT 880 (+/- Pro) is worth considering as well.

post #24036 of 29491

get audio technica m50's, they have nice isolation and good sound quality for techno genre.

post #24037 of 29491
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go for the hd 600 if your looking for neutrality.

 

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


The Beyer DT 880 (+/- Pro) is worth considering as well.

 

I would add he-400 too  .. colored ( v-shaped) but quite near to neutral , energetic , not "in your face" , very airy and precise. Good bass and mids . Sparkle trebles though.  Same league than above advices in my opinion.  From my experience , he-400 sounds good ( both engaging and accurate) for Jazz and Rock.


Edited by Sorrodje - 1/29/13 at 4:26am
post #24038 of 29491

hey, sorry if this is in the wrong thread, but I was just wondering if more experienced people could give me some advice.

 

I am currently streaming music from Spotify as my primary source of music for commuting, and I was wondering if upgrading to a nicer set of full-sized headphones would improve the sound quality. Spotify probably throws out 160-320kbps mp3 files, so I feel like I won't be able to achieve really audiophile-type SQ, but what kind of full-sized headphones should I be looking at? 

 

I am currently using the Bose Mei2 (please don't hate, but in-ears are super uncomfy for me), and I would like to experience better sound quality via closed over ear headphones. recommendations/tips?

 

thank you so much for reading my post and giving me advice! :)

 

Edit: I guess I should say that I do like extra bass boost. I listen to mainly pop, hip hop/rap, r&b, electronica/house/trance/techno/dubstep.


Edited by money4me247 - 1/29/13 at 5:20am
post #24039 of 29491

I have spent at least 40+ hours researching and reading all the reviews about this phone vs.that phone threads and I could use some help. This will be my first good set of headphones. I am not a real audiophile because I have a slight hearing loss from 10+ years of machine shops and commercial lawn mowers. I enjoy quality products and a touch of style doesn't hurt. 

Intended audio:

Christian rock/pop, Christian Rap, Macbook Pro(new) for movies, Audio lectures/Bible studies, PC and Xbox Gaming (in order of time spent).

Where/when:

I will use them sometimes when my wife is sleeping next to me, while walking around town or on the way to work and at home "after hours". I will use them once in a great while while traveling (airplane) but only a couple times per year. I will be on the move 90% of the time when I use these so I don't want HUGE cans on my average/smaller sized head. Average time of use will be 1-2hr per day. 

Source used:

60% iPod touch 4th gen; without amp.....for now, 30% Macbook Pro, 10% TV(Gaming).

 

I'm looking at spending $150 and I have found two headphones that I like for that price. I have narrowed it down to two cans:

 

V-moda M80 ($150) 

Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 ($150)

Phiaton MS 400 ($138)

 

 

 

Will the Beyer need an amp to run good off of my iPod? Or even my Mac? I know they make a 32 but it costs $75 more.

Thanks for the help! 

 

post #24040 of 29491
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Where/when:

I will use them sometimes when my wife is sleeping next to me, while walking around town or on the way to work and at home "after hours". I will use them once in a great while while traveling (airplane) but only a couple times per year. I will be on the move 90% of the time when I use these so I don't want HUGE cans on my average/smaller sized head. Average time of use will be 1-2hr per day. 


 

I'd suggest you get an IEM  instead, especially if you'd be using them on airplane.

Recently I  was listening gregorian chants with my eph-100 before sleeping, and this was great.

However they isolate well, so it might be dangerous to walk on road with them.

post #24041 of 29491
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I'd suggest you get an IEM  instead, especially if you'd be using them on airplane.

Recently I  was listening gregorian chants with my eph-100 before sleeping, and this was great.

However they isolate well, so it might be dangerous to walk on road with them.

I have been highly disappointed with IEM. I just can't seem to find any that fit well, comfortable, and stay in place. I really don't want to buy an IEM without trying them on first. I'm selling my Beats because they don't fit well at all (I got them in a trade and regret it very much). I don't walk in the street, just out of the parking structure at work and a couple blocks on the sidewalk into my workplace.


Edited by BriGuy31 - 1/29/13 at 5:56am
post #24042 of 29491

I have been highly disappointed with IEM. I just can't seem to find any that fit well, comfortable, and stay in place.

 

I know that feel. I have extremely small ear canals so basically nothing fits in my ears.

post #24043 of 29491
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Originally Posted by BriGuy31 View Post

I have been highly disappointed with IEM. I just can't seem to find any that fit well, comfortable, and stay in place. I really don't want to buy an IEM without trying them on first. I'm selling my Beats because they don't fit well at all (I got them in a trade and regret it very much). I don't walk in the street, just out of the parking structure at work and a couple blocks on the sidewalk into my workplace.

Well , if you got the beat tours, they are well known to have fits issues.

I have no problem to insert the eph-100 and to have deep bass, but comfort might not be the best.

I think it's more easy to be disappointed with full size headphone, none have as deep bass,

and are as balanced "out of the box", without any mod or eq.

post #24044 of 29491
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These results were about what I was expecting and gives a case for potential impedance mismatch.  Yes, a separate amplifier should absolutely solve your problem as the D100's internal amp will not be involved in the circuit and only the DAC section will be utilized.  I'm in the camp that believes you want your signal to be as neutral as possible as you get nearer and nearer to the source in the audio chain.  I think If you're shooting for a warm signature, that 339 is a decent route and gives you the pleasure of tube rolling to tune your sound.  I'm more of a solid state guy myself, but to each their own... I also probably wouldn't go solid state  desired colorations are best achieved in the peripherals (amp or headphone). if I wanted a warm sound signature.

 

As far as using the balanced outputs of the D100, there are benefits but the exact physics has been a topic of debate around the forums.  Subjectively, most people agree that a balanced headphone is either equal to (only reported in some cases) or better (more often reported) than your traditional single ended (your standard HP jack you're used to).  Of course, these subjective tests weren't performed perfectly and bias could likely be a factor.  Coming from a speaker background, I have still been scratching my head as to why this single ended wiring became a standard for headphones because theoretically it handicaps a few things - but it is likely economic in nature.  You need a specific XLR cable to use the balanced outputs of the DAC, which are line level just like the single ended RCAs.  Unfortunately, it looks as though the 339 accepts RCA (single ended) inputs only, so I wouldn't worry too much about the balancing thing if your heart is dead set on the 339.

 

I think the D100's amp is fine considering the price of the unit with the nicely implemented DAC, but I have found with picky and difficult to drive headphones that the amp section can run out of steam a bit.  I'd put the HD650 in the "moderately difficult to drive" and not necessarily "difficult" camp, but a discerning ear should hear the benefits of a better amp with the HD650, despite it being not overly picky... especially if you're hearing the differences we discussed between the single ended outputs of the D100.

 

My vote is to get your new amp and try the headphones on it before making a move on the new set of headphones.  Warm and bassy describes the HD650 pretty well... and that sound like what you're after.

Hi.. I took a few days to reply because in the meantime I got to try my Yulong D100 with a Darkvoice 336 amplifier! And waddaya know, voila - my thin/transparency problems disappeared! The amp (with a tung-sol 5998 tube) warmed up the sound and rolled off the treble more just how I like it. However, I did notice less bass slam - but overall much preferred the "fatigueless" sound on the DV336.

 

A new amp is exactly the next upgrade that I'll do - just have to decide between the warm relaxed tube sound of La Figaro 339 or the dynamic, harder hitting Violectric V200. The 339 excited me too much, however apparently V200 is so dynamic - and probably best for my dynamic music in Rap etc. Hard decisions - need to trial these both I think!

 

Thank you so much for your help - really made my life easier!

post #24045 of 29491
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Originally Posted by BriGuy31 View Post

I have spent at least 40+ hours researching and reading all the reviews about this phone vs.that phone threads and I could use some help. This will be my first good set of headphones. I am not a real audiophile because I have a slight hearing loss from 10+ years of machine shops and commercial lawn mowers. I enjoy quality products and a touch of style doesn't hurt. 

Intended audio:

Christian rock/pop, Christian Rap, Macbook Pro(new) for movies, Audio lectures/Bible studies, PC and Xbox Gaming (in order of time spent).

Where/when:

I will use them sometimes when my wife is sleeping next to me, while walking around town or on the way to work and at home "after hours". I will use them once in a great while while traveling (airplane) but only a couple times per year. I will be on the move 90% of the time when I use these so I don't want HUGE cans on my average/smaller sized head. Average time of use will be 1-2hr per day. 

Source used:

60% iPod touch 4th gen; without amp.....for now, 30% Macbook Pro, 10% TV(Gaming).

 

I'm looking at spending $150 and I have found two headphones that I like for that price. I have narrowed it down to two cans:

 

V-moda M80 ($150) 

Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 ($150)

Phiaton MS 400 ($138)

 

 

 

Will the Beyer need an amp to run good off of my iPod? Or even my Mac? I know they make a 32 but it costs $75 more.

Thanks for the help! 

 

Why not Ultrasone? B&H has the entire HFI series for 150 dollars or less. You can do 780's for a more refined sound or 580's for some extra oomph in the low end. And they're both 32 ohms, they run great off a computer, iPod, etc.

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