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post #23941 of 29491

So I recently made a thread unaware of this one, so excuse me for that haha tongue.gif well I'll just copy and paste what I wrote in the other one:

 

Hello everyone,

 

So I recently bought some Audio Technica ATH-A700X headphones and while they sounded great in the highs and mids, they were very lacking in bass. I would like to find a pair of cans that are full and rich in the mids and highs but that also provide a punchy and strong bass. 

 

I've been looking at tons of reviews and almost ordered the A900Xs, but many reviewers said they sounded similar to the ones I had previously. I've seen the DT990s, D2000s, and various other headphones show up in my searches as well, but I'd like the input from you guys.

 

I listen mainly to rock and classical with a little bit of pop. I don't want the bass to be so overwhelming that higher frequencies are drowned out, especially because I listen to classical. I also game a lot so I would like a pair with a larger soundstage (I don't really have a preference of open vs closed). When I listen to music I want to feel the bass, I want it to have an impact, which the 700s just didn't provide at all. After all that narrows down the choices, I would also like to remain ~$250 or lower and low impedance cans are preferred. 

 

I have also seen a lot of mention of German Maestro 8.35D Monitor headphones, but there are very few reviews on them. Does anyone have any knowledge of their classical performance or their soundstage for gaming?

 

Thanks a lot everyone smily_headphones1.gif!!

post #23942 of 29491

@EzalmoN ;

 

he-400 and hd650 are many leagues above ath-M50 .

 

I have he-400 and listened  a bit to hd650. IMO they're sidegrade but with very different signature : he-400 is V-shaped , has great details, transparency and fastness , fantastic bass quality, good but a bit recessed mids and sparkly trebles . Hd650 is (still in my opinion) more mid centric with good bass but not as good/extended than he-400 IMO and smooth trebles. Hd650 is darker and more relaxed, he-400 brighter and more "in your face".   he-400 has sparkly trebles which can sound sometimes sibilant. hd650 is not the most energetic headphone I heard.

 

Choosing between the two is a matter of tastes and musical preferences.  for good mids and bass with smooth trebles , HD650 si the better way I think redface.gif


Edited by Sorrodje - 1/26/13 at 2:42pm
post #23943 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Nick Hale View Post

As a newbie to the market, I'm looking for a pair of cans that are preferably closed, and therefore minimal leakage, looking for high quality cans that will be used predominantly with an iPod/laptop and without an amp either full size or portable. I listen to a lot of bass heavy music, dub, electronic, progressive and the like. I'm looking to spend about $300. I'm open to any brand although Sennheiser, Beyersdynamic and AKG as I have easy access to said suppliers. On a side note, what is the general consensus on Beats and Bose? Many thanks chaps


Have you checked the buying guides that are linked in the opening post of this thread.  It is a very good place to start.  Look for cans rated a "1".  Some of those rated a "2" will work too, but that comes more iffy.

post #23944 of 29491
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Originally Posted by SoundNation View Post

i was not aware to post in this thread for advice, so i posted a new thread.

sorry for that

 

but anywayz

 

i am going to buy dt 880 600 ohms or 250 ohms with fiio e17 or a better dedicated desktop amp

(if u have some recomendations i am glad to read it)

 

But i have another question. I have here bose 901 speakers. I got it from my fam. Its

from the 2 series or 1 series i quess. So is pretty old. Like 25-30 years. But they sound wonderfull

i have a jvc dynamic stereo amp for it (maybe 10 years old. Do you think this amp can drive the dt880 600 ohm well?

i read on the back of the stero amp that it has only maximum of  4-16 ohm output and 8-16 ohm output.

 

another question, Is there a headphone that sounds like the bose 901? I know its a pretty dumb lame question. of course

headphones cant reproduce speaker sound. But when i heard the dt880 i was pretty impressed to buy my

first headphone because of the clarirty etc. the only thing missimg was the bass, but i heard it unamped. so can

a stereo amp provide bass for the dt800 600 ohm?

 
The 600 Ohm DT 880 needs an amp to be properly powered.  That accomplished, it has good bass, but will not give you the sub bass you will get from a good vintage speaker system or a more modern set-up with sub-woofer.  These speaker let you feel as well as hear the bass.  That is very difficult to replicate with a headphone.

 

Will a (even a very good) modern-ish receiver (your vintage) properly power this can?  Who know unless some has your particular receiver.  For many years most companies have cheaped out on their headphones section.  They are gnerally but a shadow of what they were 30 +/- and more years ago.  My Sansui G-7500 will full power the HE-6.  I have an otherwise very good new-ish Onkyo that has trouble pushing even  moderately difficult to push cans.  In limited experience, I have found that the Yamaha Adventage line has a good headphone section, albeit no where near that of my vintage stereo receivers.

post #23945 of 29491
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Originally Posted by EzAlmoN View Post

Hello everybody, 

 

I have just gotten into the audiophile community and after some research and some visits at different stores I have come here to ask for any recommendations for Full Size headphones (max 500$, doesnt matter to me if they're closed or open as long as I can listen to them without any discomfort after many hours). I already have a pretty full size amp/dac from Denon, which sounds really nice imo (might get a headphone amp/dac just for the headphones later if I want it). I listen to classical, folk, rock, and various techno genres and I really enjoy having good mids and bass, and the high frequencies not biting my ears as it sometimes happens. I have looked at the Hifiman HE 400, Sennheiser 650 and the Denon AH-D600.

 

^^ Please help me out as I am really unexperienced and dont want to waste any money for something that I dont want. I have listened to the AH-D600's and they simply sound amazing but I have not heard the HD650's or the HIFIMAN's. How would you compare these headphones and, which other headphones in this price range would you recommend. I am open to any suggestions and mainly want to use these headphones for home use and am aiming for quality. 


If you like the new Denon, you almost certainly like a bass enhanced sound signature.

 

Althougth the Senn and HiFiMan are not neutral, they will be moving you away from the amout of bass enhancement you apparently like in the Denon.  They of course are both much better than the Denon for classical, folk and rock.  You can read more about the 650 and 400 here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-hifiman-he-400-added-12-24-12#user_MDRSA5000

post #23946 of 29491
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Originally Posted by dyno0919 View Post

So I recently made a thread unaware of this one, so excuse me for that haha tongue.gif well I'll just copy and paste what I wrote in the other one:

 

Hello everyone,

 

So I recently bought some Audio Technica ATH-A700X headphones and while they sounded great in the highs and mids, they were very lacking in bass. I would like to find a pair of cans that are full and rich in the mids and highs but that also provide a punchy and strong bass. 

 

I've been looking at tons of reviews and almost ordered the A900Xs, but many reviewers said they sounded similar to the ones I had previously. I've seen the DT990s, D2000s, and various other headphones show up in my searches as well, but I'd like the input from you guys.

 

I listen mainly to rock and classical with a little bit of pop. I don't want the bass to be so overwhelming that higher frequencies are drowned out, especially because I listen to classical. I also game a lot so I would like a pair with a larger soundstage (I don't really have a preference of open vs closed). When I listen to music I want to feel the bass, I want it to have an impact, which the 700s just didn't provide at all. After all that narrows down the choices, I would also like to remain ~$250 or lower and low impedance cans are preferred. 

 

I have also seen a lot of mention of German Maestro 8.35D Monitor headphones, but there are very few reviews on them. Does anyone have any knowledge of their classical performance or their soundstage for gaming?

 

Thanks a lot everyone smily_headphones1.gif!!


Had not heard of the German Maestro line, but they appear to review well--although there aren't many reviews even on Amazon.

 

You should also consider the HD 598--although they certainly are not bass monsters.

post #23947 of 29491
hi there im looking to buy 2 headphones (open and closed) within the $300-400 range each. One for home and the other for portability.
I will be mainly using them with my laptop and iphone 5 (with bit rate of 320 on almost most of the music) and i plan to buy a dac/amp in the future but not now.

While i am fairly new to the hifi and can consider myself to be a bit of a noob, i have been snopping around the hifi forums about headphones for the last 3 months, although it wasnt until yesterday that i bothered to sign up. My exposure to good quality audiogears are quite limited, (ue 400, cx 300 ii) for iems and denon hd1100, senn hd 202.

I listen to mainly all kind of rock and metal music starting from the alternative (radiohead, alter bridge, foo fighters, soad) to the progressive (porcupine tree/anathema)to the psychedelic(pink floyd, mars volta, tool, apc, at the drive in) to the metal core(underoath, killswitch engage, all that remains, as i lay dying) to heavy and thrash metal (iron maiden, pantera, led zeppelin, megadeth, slayer) to the death melodic (in flames, bodom, at the gates, insomnium,dark tranquility) to the death progressive (opeth my fav band, dan swano, edge of society, ) to the folk/doom metal (ulver, agalloch, in extremo, saltatio mortis, eluveitei,empyrium, katatonia, paradise lost, my dying bride) , celtic metal (cruachan, primordial) and some post metal bands such as alcest, les discrets and some fusion bands such as dead can dance .

i know the range of music is quite large and it is nt possible to cover them all, but as long as the headphone does some justice to the fast paced riffs and to the melody it should be fine. please bear in mind that i live in australia (im going to update my profile very soon) and the retail price of headphones and for that matter any electronics is out of the world even though the aussie dollar is stronger than the us now.

I know grados are universally referred here for rock musics, but how abt metals? how abt the denon hd 2000 and the dt 770-880-990 series?

thanks for taking time to read my 1st post. Cheers mate

ps: i love my denon hd 1100 and i got it at a killer deal too. £40 from uk and had my frnd ship it to aus for another £10. i am absolutely loving it :d
Edited by nadn1 - 1/26/13 at 7:08pm
post #23948 of 29491

Hello, new here. I'm looking for an upgrade from my M50's. 

 

I'm looking for some cans that work well with Trance and House (or EDM) because that is what my playlist is made of.

 

Looking for over ear, comfortable headphones Preferably closed and Price range around 150-300$. Mostly for desktop but would also need to plug into an ipod. 

 

Thanks.

post #23949 of 29491
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Originally Posted by MazBrah View Post

Hello, new here. I'm looking for an upgrade from my M50's. 

 

I'm looking for some cans that work well with Trance and House (or EDM) because that is what my playlist is made of.

 

Looking for over ear, comfortable headphones Preferably closed and Price range around 150-300$. Mostly for desktop but would also need to plug into an ipod. 

 

Thanks.

Hello there, welcome to Head-Fi and sorry about your wallet! wink.gif

 

The V-MODA Crossfade M-100 might be a good upgrade from the M50's for that kind of music. Comfort is kind of a hit-or-miss with them, but if you purchase the M-100's from V-MODA's website, they offer a 60-day risk-free trial period. If you don't like them within 60 days of purchase, you can send them back for a full refund. That plus there are a few easy-to-do, reversible earpad modifications to help with the comfort.

post #23950 of 29491

ViralCow, Thanks for the wise advice of actually going to the store to try them! The resourcefulness of the internet is a valuable thing but it's easy to forget the obvious. 

 

I went over to magnolia in best buy and tried on a bunch of phones. It was clear to me that what I liked most were the giant over the ear phones made by Sennheiser. I tried the AKG K550 which sounded great and were beautiful but they were a bit tight (would only know from trying on.) 

 

I found the Senn  558's (I believe) to sound really really good and gave me that giant spread feel I liked. They were only $170 too. However they were open backed. No go.

 

---

 

 

I found a pair of Senn pcx 450's which were large, had noise cancelling and closed. They cost about twice as much. I bought them.

 

The noise canceling was significant. It cut out a lot of the air droning at work. The sound was nice, but became quite nice with the canceling off. 

 

I still think the 558's sound better, but they are "open" so that is not a fair comparison.

 

I'll try these out for a bit longer, but like them so far. For home though now I want a set of open cans :--D

 

---

 

 

Are there any large comfy rivals to these headphones with better audio? 


Edited by sotov - 1/26/13 at 11:42pm
post #23951 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


If you like the new Denon, you almost certainly like a bass enhanced sound signature.

 

Althougth the Senn and HiFiMan are not neutral, they will be moving you away from the amout of bass enhancement you apparently like in the Denon.  They of course are both much better than the Denon for classical, folk and rock.  You can read more about the 650 and 400 here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-57-headphones-compared-update-hifiman-he-400-added-12-24-12#user_MDRSA5000

The Denons in my opinion just look, feel and sound amazing, but I still will have to listen to all three of them in order to trully be able to decide which one to buy, because of the fact that I like bass I might first get a Denon and later get a headphone more focused on the mids and trebles, as I said before, the AH-D600 that I listened to in the store blew my mind in many areas - comfort, warmth and durability. With glassfiber ear cups they don't look like they are going to break anytime soon.

post #23952 of 29491

Alright, so I've come into a bit of extra money, and to add to that I've also got my birthday coming up.

So i got to thinking, why not treat myself to something

or rather treat my ears to something.

I'm quite excited about this, but I have no clue where to start!!!!

I'm on the hunt for some headphones!

 

I was quite intrigued about the Hifiman HE-400, but I'm not sure whether there may be other value for money headphones out there.

I kind of need some help in this area, as this could potentially be my first hifi or midfi purchase.

 

For those with experience, and the time to share there knowledge with me that would be greatly appreciated.

just a note:

I love my bass :)

 

Thanks

post #23953 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Omnom View Post

Alright, so I've come into a bit of extra money, and to add to that I've also got my birthday coming up.

So i got to thinking, why not treat myself to something

or rather treat my ears to something.

I'm quite excited about this, but I have no clue where to start!!!!

I'm on the hunt for some headphones!

 

I was quite intrigued about the Hifiman HE-400, but I'm not sure whether there may be other value for money headphones out there.

I kind of need some help in this area, as this could potentially be my first hifi or midfi purchase.

 

For those with experience, and the time to share there knowledge with me that would be greatly appreciated.

just a note:

I love my bass :)

 

Thanks

 

What is your budget?

 

Are you OK with open cans (they leak sound)?  The HE-400 is open.

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Other than loving bass--describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

What music genres do you plan run through these cans?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

post #23954 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

What is your budget?

 

Are you OK with open cans (they leak sound)?  The HE-400 is open.

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Other than loving bass--describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

What music genres do you plan run through these cans?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

- My budget will vary, I mean I can splurge out if I feel it is worth it, pushing it is $500

my preferred would be around $400


- Open cans are absolutely fine with me
 

- No amps as of yet, I have yet to experience any of that, but I will be mainly using my iPod and my computer. I my end up getting that cheapo ELE dac, that was recommended by Dsnuts.
 

- They are all 256-320kps, or "Apple lossless"
 

- I love musical and warm sound signatures, similar to that of the MH1C, I love the sound of that IEM, the musicality of it all, and how it just sounds full and lively. I'm not so much into analytical but that is also something nice.
 

- I run everything! Haha, I have classical, electronic, jazz, pop, rock, and so forth. I don't mind any genre.
 

- I may have the off chance that I may use them outside or while traveling, but this will be a rare occasion. I will be listening to my iPod with them.

 

Does this help?
thanks

post #23955 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Omnom View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

What is your budget?

 

Are you OK with open cans (they leak sound)?  The HE-400 is open.

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 

Other than loving bass--describe the sound signature that you are seeking?

 

What music genres do you plan run through these cans?

 

Do you plan to use them outside your home?  If so, in what way & with what equipment?

- My budget will vary, I mean I can splurge out if I feel it is worth it, pushing it is $500

my preferred would be around $400


- Open cans are absolutely fine with me
 

- No amps as of yet, I have yet to experience any of that, but I will be mainly using my iPod and my computer. I my end up getting that cheapo ELE dac, that was recommended by Dsnuts.
 

- They are all 256-320kps, or "Apple lossless"
 

- I love musical and warm sound signatures, similar to that of the MH1C, I love the sound of that IEM, the musicality of it all, and how it just sounds full and lively. I'm not so much into analytical but that is also something nice.
 

- I run everything! Haha, I have classical, electronic, jazz, pop, rock, and so forth. I don't mind any genre.
 

- I may have the off chance that I may use them outside or while traveling, but this will be a rare occasion. I will be listening to my iPod with them.

 

Does this help?
thanks


No amp gretly limits you choices and knocks out the planar HE 400.

 

I--and probably most other regulars on this thread--have not heard the IEM you like.  I don't see how bassy cans would work well with classical, jazz, pop and even rock.  However, they'll be going on your head and not mine.

 

You should check out the Grado RS-2i, Alessandro MS-2i, Audio Technica ATH-ES10, Audio Technica ATHESW9A, Beyer DT 1350, Senn Momentum, and V-Moda M-100.


Edited by KG Jag - 1/27/13 at 1:47am
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