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The way you say you want them to be less bulky tells me that you might be looking for an on-ear pair of headphones..

I understand that this is the over-ear thread, but, some good on-ear headphones you may want to take a look at are:

V-Moda M80
AiAiAi TMA-1 

If being too bright sounding is your main concern about the KRK KNS8400, then, you can easily use some sort of equalizer to tone it down. If you use an iPod Touch/iPhone for music listening, then get the app EQu. It is far superior to anything that the Apple preset EQs can do.
If you have some other music player, it most likely has a built-in equalizer, so you can use that.

The bulky issue isn't too much of a problem. I just don't want to look like an alien or something while I'm working in Starbucks lol. (Ultimately though, I don't really care if the sound quality is that amazing.)

But in terms of the highs do you find the KRKs to be overbearing? I would just be worried that after listening to one thing for a while, it would start to hurt my ears like most in-ear buds do. I don't mind using an EQ, but I switch things up a lot. So if changing between genres a lot this could get tedious.

Another thing I forgot to mention was sound leakage. How do the KRKs do with sounds leakage? Do they isolate sound while you are listening to music? And also, do they leak when the volume is at a comfortable to loud volume?

(I want to make sure that I can use them in a crowded Starbucks without hearing all of the background noise, and also be able to use them in the library without pissing off the people around me.)

post #23717 of 29491
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I was thinking along the same lines--plus you can only use closed cans while sitting in a coffe bar.

 

To get what you want, you probably need to add about $50 to your budget and get the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II.  The Shure SRH 840 is too big for what you want.

 

From what I've heard, the M80 is a bit more smoother and versatile than the HD25.

I'm not so sure that the HD25 would be the best choice for him, considering he doesn't really listen to electronic music, which, I feel are the best use for the HD25.

But you're the Headphoneus Supremus. You know best :P

post #23718 of 29491
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The bulky issue isn't too much of a problem. I just don't want to look like an alien or something while I'm working in Starbucks lol. (Ultimately though, I don't really care if the sound quality is that amazing.)

But in terms of the highs do you find the KRKs to be overbearing? I would just be worried that after listening to one thing for a while, it would start to hurt my ears like most in-ear buds do. I don't mind using an EQ, but I switch things up a lot. So if changing between genres a lot this could get tedious.

Another thing I forgot to mention was sound leakage. How do the KRKs do with sounds leakage? Do they isolate sound while you are listening to music? And also, do they leak when the volume is at a comfortable to loud volume?

(I want to make sure that I can use them in a crowded Starbucks without hearing all of the background noise, and also be able to use them in the library without pissing off the people around me.)

 

They're closed headphones. If they didn't isolate and eliminate much of sound leak, they would be pretty useless as a closed pair.

post #23719 of 29491
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I was thinking along the same lines--plus you can only use closed cans while sitting in a coffe bar.

 

To get what you want, you probably need to add about $50 to your budget and get the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II.  The Shure SRH 840 is too big for what you want.

 

From what I've heard, the M80 is a bit more smoother and versatile than the HD25.

I'm not so sure that the HD25 would be the best choice for him, considering he doesn't really listen to electronic music, which, I feel are the best use for the HD25.

But you're the Headphoneus Supremus. You know best :P


The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

post #23720 of 29491
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Originally Posted by pro1137 View Post

 

The way you say you want them to be less bulky tells me that you might be looking for an on-ear pair of headphones..

I understand that this is the over-ear thread, but, some good on-ear headphones you may want to take a look at are:

V-Moda M80
AiAiAi TMA-1 

If being too bright sounding is your main concern about the KRK KNS8400, then, you can easily use some sort of equalizer to tone it down. If you use an iPod Touch/iPhone for music listening, then get the app EQu. It is far superior to anything that the Apple preset EQs can do.
If you have some other music player, it most likely has a built-in equalizer, so you can use that.

The bulky issue isn't too much of a problem. I just don't want to look like an alien or something while I'm working in Starbucks lol. (Ultimately though, I don't really care if the sound quality is that amazing.)

But in terms of the highs do you find the KRKs to be overbearing? I would just be worried that after listening to one thing for a while, it would start to hurt my ears like most in-ear buds do. I don't mind using an EQ, but I switch things up a lot. So if changing between genres a lot this could get tedious.

Another thing I forgot to mention was sound leakage. How do the KRKs do with sounds leakage? Do they isolate sound while you are listening to music? And also, do they leak when the volume is at a comfortable to loud volume?

(I want to make sure that I can use them in a crowded Starbucks without hearing all of the background noise, and also be able to use them in the library without pissing off the people around me.)


The KRK is designed for professional studio use.  They don't leak much--at least not at reasonable/keep your hearing in tact volumes.  They also isolate well.

 

The KRK is bright but not sibilant--at least not to me.  That is a very individual thing though.

post #23721 of 29491
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The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

The Senn are too expensive for what I'm going for. I haven't had too much time to read up on the M-80. I have looked into the KRK KNS 8400 and it looks good, except for the highs (which I don't know if that is actually an issue). I looked into the Audio Technica ATH-M50, but those seem to leak too much for what I want. I'm at college so I need everything from in my dorm room, to the quiet library, to a busy Starbucks or noisy car ride.

 

The music genres I will be listening to are rap/hip-hop/r&b/screamo/rock (punk/pop/alternative)/and some indie music (Lumineers, Bon Iver, Local Natives) with some indie dance music (?) (MGMT, Passion Pit, Two Door Cinema Club). Sorry don't know how to classify all of those.

 

Based off all of this info which ones would you recommend? I've come to realize it is pretty easy to get lost in all of these headphone choices..

Absolute most I want to spend is $160.

post #23722 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

The Senn are too expensive for what I'm going for. I haven't had too much time to read up on the M-80. I have looked into the KRK KNS 8400 and it looks good, except for the highs (which I don't know if that is actually an issue). I looked into the Audio Technica ATH-M50, but those seem to leak too much for what I want. I'm at college so I need everything from in my dorm room, to the quiet library, to a busy Starbucks or noisy car ride.

 

The music genres I will be listening to are rap/hip-hop/r&b/screamo/rock (punk/pop/alternative)/and some indie music (Lumineers, Bon Iver, Local Natives) with some indie dance music (?) (MGMT, Passion Pit, Two Door Cinema Club). Sorry don't know how to classify all of those.

 

Based off all of this info which ones would you recommend? I've come to realize it is pretty easy to get lost in all of these headphone choices..

Absolute most I want to spend is $160.

From my experience, the M-80 might have too little sparkle in the treble to completely enjoy rock music. They don't sound that bad, but they're not an optimal headphone for the genre in my opinion. That plus they were really small on my head (the headband was nearly at full extension to get it to fit on my head comfortably).

700

 

I think the M50 would be a better choice, but that's my $0.02. They hardly leaked at all when I tried them.

post #23723 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

The Senn are too expensive for what I'm going for. I haven't had too much time to read up on the M-80. I have looked into the KRK KNS 8400 and it looks good, except for the highs (which I don't know if that is actually an issue). I looked into the Audio Technica ATH-M50, but those seem to leak too much for what I want. I'm at college so I need everything from in my dorm room, to the quiet library, to a busy Starbucks or noisy car ride.

 

The music genres I will be listening to are rap/hip-hop/r&b/screamo/rock (punk/pop/alternative)/and some indie music (Lumineers, Bon Iver, Local Natives) with some indie dance music (?) (MGMT, Passion Pit, Two Door Cinema Club). Sorry don't know how to classify all of those.

 

Based off all of this info which ones would you recommend? I've come to realize it is pretty easy to get lost in all of these headphone choices..

Absolute most I want to spend is $160.


Don't know your genres well enough to advise you on a final choice.  I can say that if bass is important to you, the M-80 sound signature matches those needs better.  Beware however, as a signficiant number of folks have found the M-80 to be less than comfortable.

 

The bottom line for what you want is that, although you can get quality cans for $150, you will have to make some comprises/trade-offs with your final selection.

post #23724 of 29491
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The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

The Senn are too expensive for what I'm going for. I haven't had too much time to read up on the M-80. I have looked into the KRK KNS 8400 and it looks good, except for the highs (which I don't know if that is actually an issue). I looked into the Audio Technica ATH-M50, but those seem to leak too much for what I want. I'm at college so I need everything from in my dorm room, to the quiet library, to a busy Starbucks or noisy car ride.

 

The music genres I will be listening to are rap/hip-hop/r&b/screamo/rock (punk/pop/alternative)/and some indie music (Lumineers, Bon Iver, Local Natives) with some indie dance music (?) (MGMT, Passion Pit, Two Door Cinema Club). Sorry don't know how to classify all of those.

 

Based off all of this info which ones would you recommend? I've come to realize it is pretty easy to get lost in all of these headphone choices..

Absolute most I want to spend is $160.

From my experience, the M-80 might have too little sparkle in the treble to completely enjoy rock music. They don't sound that bad, but they're not an optimal headphone for the genre in my opinion. That plus they were really small on my head (the headband was nearly at full extension to get it to fit on my head comfortably).

700

 

I think the M50 would be a better choice, but that's my $0.02. They hardly leaked at all when I tried them.


M-50's is very bright and has recessed mids.  I would put them behind both the M-80 and KRK for the stated uses and preferences.


Edited by KG Jag - 1/21/13 at 7:20pm
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The M-80 will be preferred by basshead lites.  The Senn is more balanced and from my perspective, far more genre versatile than is the M-80.  Both are on Tyll's Wall of Fame.

The Senn are too expensive for what I'm going for. I haven't had too much time to read up on the M-80. I have looked into the KRK KNS 8400 and it looks good, except for the highs (which I don't know if that is actually an issue). I looked into the Audio Technica ATH-M50, but those seem to leak too much for what I want. I'm at college so I need everything from in my dorm room, to the quiet library, to a busy Starbucks or noisy car ride.

 

The music genres I will be listening to are rap/hip-hop/r&b/screamo/rock (punk/pop/alternative)/and some indie music (Lumineers, Bon Iver, Local Natives) with some indie dance music (?) (MGMT, Passion Pit, Two Door Cinema Club). Sorry don't know how to classify all of those.

 

Based off all of this info which ones would you recommend? I've come to realize it is pretty easy to get lost in all of these headphone choices..

Absolute most I want to spend is $160.

From my experience, the M-80 might have too little sparkle in the treble to completely enjoy rock music. They don't sound that bad, but they're not an optimal headphone for the genre in my opinion. That plus they were really small on my head (the headband was nearly at full extension to get it to fit on my head comfortably).

700

 

I think the M50 would be a better choice, but that's my $0.02. They hardly leaked at all when I tried them.


M-50's is very bright and has recessed mids.  I would put them behind both the M-80 and KRK for the stated uses and preferences.

I really should try out the KRK's some day. It's a headphone that everyone recommends. XD

post #23726 of 29491
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Don't know your genres well enough to advise you on a final choice.  I can say that if bass is important to you, the M-80 sound signature matches those needs better.  Beware however, as a signficiant number of folks have found the M-80 to be less than comfortable.

 

The bottom line for what you want is that, although you can get quality cans for $150, you will have to make some comprises/trade-offs with your final selection.

 

Lol. All of this is so confusing. I've just read about the KRKs and how the bass isn't that great, which from what I read seems because the sound is truer and more flat. I've also heard that these make bad quality music sound worse, but good quality mixes sound amazing. The M-80s I don't really know what to think about. The M-50s seem out just because they are bulky, have leakage, and won't really work if I'm sitting outside.

Are the KRKs portable? And will they work outside? Is the bass that hollowed out? Like if I want to listen to Kayne or Jay-Z will it seem lacking?

 

In terms of comfort, sound quality, and portability, which is the most preferable the M-80s or the KRKs?

-Keep in mind, I may use these outside and want to be able to take them places easily. Also, I forgot to mention this much earlier, but I wear glasses. They are thicker-framed Ray-Bans. So I don't know how that'll affect everything.

 

Then lastly, on my list on long questions (sorry), what is the real difference between the KRK KNS 8400 and 6400? Which is better factoring price into the mix?

post #23727 of 29491
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Don't know your genres well enough to advise you on a final choice.  I can say that if bass is important to you, the M-80 sound signature matches those needs better.  Beware however, as a signficiant number of folks have found the M-80 to be less than comfortable.

 

The bottom line for what you want is that, although you can get quality cans for $150, you will have to make some comprises/trade-offs with your final selection.

 

Lol. All of this is so confusing. I've just read about the KRKs and how the bass isn't that great, which from what I read seems because the sound is truer and more flat. I've also heard that these make bad quality music sound worse, but good quality mixes sound amazing. The M-80s I don't really know what to think about. The M-50s seem out just because they are bulky, have leakage, and won't really work if I'm sitting outside.

Are the KRKs portable? And will they work outside? Is the bass that hollowed out? Like if I want to listen to Kayne or Jay-Z will it seem lacking?

 

In terms of comfort, sound quality, and portability, which is the most preferable the M-80s or the KRKs?

-Keep in mind, I may use these outside and want to be able to take them places easily. Also, I forgot to mention this much earlier, but I wear glasses. They are thicker-framed Ray-Bans. So I don't know how that'll affect everything.

 

Then lastly, on my list on long questions (sorry), what is the real difference between the KRK KNS 8400 and 6400? Which is better factoring price into the mix?


The 8400 is about as portable as a full sized headphone can get.  They certainly will work outside, but they, like most cans, are not weather proof. Their sound signature is very close to neutral.  I have never listeded to the artists you mentioned and have no desire to so.  Again if this is bass heavy music, like that associated with the Beats customer base, then the/either KRK is not a good match.

 

Between the KRK and M-80, the KRK will win the vote for being the more comfortable.  That said; no one else has your head, your glasses and your personal preferences and sensativities other than you.  There is not substitute for putting them one your own head and wearing them for your longest listening session.

 

The 8400 is better than the good 6400.  Only you can decide whether the difference is worth it--to you.  Both are listed in the buying guides linked in the opening post of this thread.

 

I don't think there is much more I can add that will help you make your decision--except if you can't put them on your head before buying, read as many reviews from trusted sources as possible.

post #23728 of 29491
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The way you say you want them to be less bulky tells me that you might be looking for an on-ear pair of headphones..
 

Hmm no, i live in Europe and got them 3 years ago. Now i can see that they are more expensive, but that was they'r price at that time.

post #23729 of 29491

Nuforce Icon HDP vs Yulong D100 vs Cambridge Dacmagic Plus

Which's the best for cans like the Sennheiser HD 700 or the Beyerdynamic T1? Thanks your help is very much appreciated!
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Nuforce Icon HDP vs Yulong D100 vs Cambridge Dacmagic Plus

Which's the best for cans like the Sennheiser HD 700 or the Beyerdynamic T1? Thanks your help is very much appreciated!


You're OT--this a recommendations thread for full sized headphones (in the Full Sized Headphones section of the forum).

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